Blue Jays Discussion: Hoffman and Pentecost signed

[trellaine201]

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 33m
Sources :#BlueJays checked on Alfonso Soriano. Encarnacion, Lind, Lawrie still on DL. Soriano said to be mulling his options.

lol

I've always been a fan of Soriano but that was 5yrs ago or so. I know he's quite old now. But I'm not against adding him

 

[Nasty Nazem]

Looking more and more like what the Cardinals did with Wainwright when he first came up....except Sanchez is younger.

Wainwright came up in September with expanded rosters and pitched a whopping 2 innings.

I can sort of understand why Jays want Sanchez in the pen, he is already at a career high innings so they want to limit those innings going forward but it makes no sense to call him up to the bigs. He hasn't even dominated the competition in Buffalo yet and most likely he will be sent down since he will inevitably struggle with in the bigs. Let him show you he can at least dominate the competition first, even as a reliever.

If they want to call-up an arm, try Drabek. He will be out of options next year so they have to see what he can do and he has already transitioned to the pen.

 

[Nasty Nazem]

Deck McGuire is DFA'd to make room for Mills. Not that he should have been on the 40 man in the first place.

 

[trellaine201]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/07/blue-jays-designate-deck-mcguire-for-assignment.html

Deck, official 1st round bust now?

 

[Eyedea]

Wainwright came up in September with expanded rosters and pitched a whopping 2 innings.

I can sort of understand why Jays want Sanchez in the pen, he is already at a career high innings so they want to limit those innings going forward but it makes no sense to call him up to the bigs. He hasn't even dominated the competition in Buffalo yet and most likely he will be sent down since he will inevitably struggle with in the bigs. Let him show you he can at least dominate the competition first, even as a reliever.

If they want to call-up an arm, try Drabek. He will be out of options next year so they have to see what he can do and he has already transitioned to the pen.

Wainwright was in the bullpen for the 2006 season too.

 

[Mitchy]

How about MLB ''forgetting'' to honour the death of tony gwynn and don zimmer ? real classy there !!

That was absolutely horrible, but since they were worshipping Jeter all night, I guess they didn't have any time to honour them.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

@jonmorosi · 5m ·
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Mariners are having ongoing trade discussions with Rays regarding David Price and Ben Zobrist, sources say. No deal imminent. @FOXSports1

 

[Swervin81]

@jonmorosi · 5m ·
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Mariners are having ongoing trade discussions with Rays regarding David Price and Ben Zobrist, sources say. No deal imminent. @FOXSports1

****. We're, what? 1.5-2.5 games back of the Mariners for that 2nd WC?

 

[Eyedea]

They were discussing Price before but did not want to move Walker.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Wainwright came up in September with expanded rosters and pitched a whopping 2 innings.

I can sort of understand why Jays want Sanchez in the pen, he is already at a career high innings so they want to limit those innings going forward but it makes no sense to call him up to the bigs. He hasn't even dominated the competition in Buffalo yet and most likely he will be sent down since he will inevitably struggle with in the bigs. Let him show you he can at least dominate the competition first, even as a reliever.

If they want to call-up an arm, try Drabek. He will be out of options next year so they have to see what he can do and he has already transitioned to the pen.

I meant in '06.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/07/blue-jays-designate-deck-mcguire-for-assignment.html

Deck, official 1st round bust now?

As much as a 25 year old can be, I suppose.

 

[DatsyukianDeke*]

They were discussing Price before but did not want to move Walker.

Big difference now is they are a contender and adding those two will help push them even higher in the standings. Imagine Felix, Price and Hisashi

 

[Woodman19]

With regards to the Sanchez discussion, I Just want to point out that since they changed his arm slot he has posted the following numbers

1.26 WHIP
3.79 ERA
2.4 BB/9
5.7 K/9
73 GB%

I know its a small sample size, but its still a point of discussion nonetheless.

 

[topched]

I've always been a fan of Soriano but that was 5yrs ago or so. I know he's quite old now. But I'm not against adding him

Me neither it would be a decent pickup and costs the minimum with the Yankees paying the rest of his 18 mil (yikes)

All you really need is Seitzer to make one little tweak and let him catch fire for a couple of months, like he did 10 months ago

 

[trellaine201]

@jonmorosi · 5m ·
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Mariners are having ongoing trade discussions with Rays regarding David Price and Ben Zobrist, sources say. No deal imminent. @FOXSports1

wow mariners really going to make a splash this year...going for it....every year AA says were going for it this year...next year, the year after. Yet picks up scrubs all the time. Mind you I really think his hands are tied financially from above. No more salary. And less salary next year.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Me neither it would be a decent pickup and costs the minimum with the Yankees paying the rest of his 18 mil (yikes)

All you really need is Seitzer to make one little tweak and let him catch fire for a couple of months, like he did 10 months ago

Wouldn't be a bad flyer on a platoon DH. Play him against lefties, let him get some confidence back. Just last year, he produced .385 wOBA/143 wRC+ against LHP.

 

[dredeye]

Me neither it would be a decent pickup and costs the minimum with the Yankees paying the rest of his 18 mil (yikes)

All you really need is Seitzer to make one little tweak and let him catch fire for a couple of months, like he did 10 months ago

Yanks only own 4 million of his contract. Who is the Cubs he came from own the other 14 million.

I should add that I'd have no issues picking him up even as a stop gap until other bats return. If I can see Soriano over Mastrionni I'd be very happy. Problem is that Soriano may just opt to retire which seems to be what he's really contemplating.

 

[DatsyukianDeke*]

Me neither it would be a decent pickup and costs the minimum with the Yankees paying the rest of his 18 mil (yikes)

All you really need is Seitzer to make one little tweak and let him catch fire for a couple of months, like he did 10 months ago

I agree. Bringing in Soriano wouldn't be bad at all especially if we platoon him.

 

[Eyedea]

Big difference now is they are a contender and adding those two will help push them even higher in the standings. Imagine Felix, Price and Hisashi

And I'd assume that the Rays would want Taijuan Walker, Nick Franklin and DJ Peterson in the package.

It's a risky deal from Seattle's end because both Price and Zobrist only come with one more year on their contracts.

 

[calcal798]

Wouldn't be a bad flyer on a platoon DH. Play him against lefties, let him get some confidence back. Just last year, he produced .385 wOBA/143 wRC+ against LHP.

He would be a significant upgrade over Lind and Francisco when we're playing Lefties.

 

[DatsyukianDeke*]

And I'd assume that the Rays would want Taijuan Walker, Nick Franklin and DJ Peterson in the package.

It's a risky deal from Seattle's end because both Price and Zobrist only come with one more year on their contracts.

Even considering those stipulations? I figured maybe the price might have dropped considering it's half way through the year and both likely won't re-sign with Tampa.

 

[Eyedea]

Even considering those stipulations? I figured maybe the price might have dropped considering it's half way through the year and both likely won't re-sign with Tampa.

Well you also have to consider Seattle's desire to complete the deal too. Tampa could always revisit trade offers in the winter.

 

[weems]

With regards to the Sanchez discussion, I Just want to point out that since they changed his arm slot he has posted the following numbers

1.26 WHIP
3.79 ERA
2.4 BB/9
5.7 K/9
73 GB%

I know its a small sample size, but its still a point of discussion nonetheless.

Hopefully its a legit adjustment and he turns into a stud for us but some serious insiders question how good he really is.

From Fangraphs today

Comment From A. Lane
More overrated as a prospect group, flame throwers with control issues or power hitters who lack strike zone control/very high K%?

Dave Cameron: Flame throwers. Aaron Sanchez strikes me as maybe the most overrated prospect in recent history, for example.

 

[dredeye]

Hopefully its a legit adjustment and he turns into a stud for us but some serious insiders question how good he really is.

From Fangraphs today

Comment From A. Lane
More overrated as a prospect group, flame throwers with control issues or power hitters who lack strike zone control/very high K%?

Dave Cameron: Flame throwers. Aaron Sanchez strikes me as maybe the most overrated prospect in recent history, for example.

Yikes. That's the worst thing I've ever seen posted or said about him

 

[Eyedea]

And Marc Hulet at Fangraphs proceeded to rank him 13th, one spot ahead of Syndergaard, on his top 25 midseason prospect list. Daniel Norris also made it on the list at 22.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/top-25-prospects-a-midseason-update/