Prospect Info: HFCF Prospect Poll: #4 (3way run-off)

[Lunatik]

We did this last summer, lets do it again.

I am going to start with some guidelines.

To be considered a prospect in these polls they must be under 26 (as of July 1st, 2015) and have fewer than 80 games of NHL experience (including playoffs).

I will set polls to expire in 48 hours. After 48 hours a winner shall be declared unless the winner has less than a 10 vote lead. At which point there will be a 24 poll that pits anyone within 10 votes of first against the leader. There will not be multiple runoff-polls so a win by 1 in a run-off poll will be final. After a winner is declared the next poll will be put up at my earliest convenience.

The current plan is vote on all 37 eligible prospects, but if participation dissipates it may stop sooner.

List of eligible prospects:
Agostino, Ken
Andersson, Rasmus
Arnold, Bill
Bennett, Sam
Bruce, Rily
Carroll, Austin
Culkin, Ryan
DeBlouw, Matt
Elson, Turner
Ferland, Micheal
Gillies, Jon
Gilmour, John
Granlund, Markus
Grant, Derek
Harrison, Tim
Hathaway, Garnet
Hickey, Brandon
Jankowski, Mark
Jooris, Josh
Kanzig, Keegan
Karnaukhov, Pavel
Klimchuk, Morgan
Kulak, Brett
Kylington, Oliver
Mangiapane, Andrew
McDonald, Mason
Morrison, Kenney
Ollas-Mattsson, Adam
Ortio, Joni
Poirier, Emile
Rafikov, Rushan
Shore, Drew
Sieloff, Patrick
Smith, Hunter
Van Brabant, Bryce
Wolf, David
Wotherspoon, Tyler

Rankings:
1. Sam Bennett http://hfboards.mandatory.com/sh....php?t=1927891
2. Emile Poirier http://hfboards.mandatory.com/sh....php?t=1928091
3. Jon Gillies http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1929015

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[Johnny Hoxville]

 

[Lunatik]

voted Klimchuk

 

[Anglesmith]

Voted the Janks.

Still don't get why Kylington deserves to be up here. He's just a few weeks removed from teams not picking him 59 consecutive times. He's one of those guys I'm keeping my expectations low on, and hoping to be pleasantly surprised.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Voted the Janks.

Still don't get why Kylington deserves to be up here. He's just a few weeks removed from teams not picking him 59 consecutive times. He's one of those guys I'm keeping my expectations low on, and hoping to be pleasantly surprised.

For me, his draft position has nothing to do with it. He is one of the most talented dman in that draft regardless and a whole bunch of GM's may regret passing on him if he pans out. Gun to my head, for his upside and talent, he's very high on my list.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Klimchuk.

Why is Jooris an option??

 

[Lunatik]

Klimchuk.

Why is Jooris an option??

read criteria in the OP, or the first poll thread when Ferkland said the same thing.

 

[InfinityIggy]

read criteria in the OP, or the first poll thread when Ferkland said the same thing.

I see, why 80 games as the criteria though, seems high.

Doesn't really matter I guess. Have no idea where to rank Jooris relative to the other prospects though.

 

[Lunatik]

I see, why 80 games as the criteria though, seems high.

Doesn't really matter I guess. Have no idea where to rank Jooris relative to the other prospects though.

The reason why I picked 80 is basically because we all consider Shore a prospect and he 79 career games

 

[InfinityIggy]

The reason why I picked 80 is basically because we all consider Shore a prospect and he 79 career games

Hm fair point. I was just thinking that if Baertschi was still Flames property we would probably still consider him a prospect, so 80 isn't a stretch.

I just tend to think of Jooris as pretty established. He is already 25 so we pretty much know what we have got in him I feel. Easy to forget he has only played 69 NHL games.

 

[Anglesmith]

I feel like it should be 80 games or 50 in a single season.

 

[Lunatik]

Hm fair point. I was just thinking that if Baertschi was still Flames property we would probably still consider him a prospect, so 80 isn't a stretch.

I just tend to think of Jooris as pretty established. He is already 25 so we pretty much know what we have got in him I feel. Easy to forget he has only played 69 NHL games.

I think guys like Jooris & Shore are where the line blurs. Jooris may be 25 but he is also only completed his 2nd pro season and is waiver exempt this coming season. I get why some don't want to consider him a prospect, but I wanted to lay down a criteria that included Shore but didn't include Gaudreau.

 

[Lunatik]

I feel like it should be 80 games or 50 in a single season.

But then there would be no Shore still.

 

[Anglesmith]

But then there would be no Shore still.

How so? His season high is 43 games.

 

[Lunatik]

How so? His season high is 43 games.

I thought all his games with the Panthers were with the same team.

But 50 would eliminate Granlund as he played 48+3 this year and he is very much a prospect still IMO.

 

[Anglesmith]

I thought all his games with the Panthers were with the same team.

But 50 would eliminate Granlund as he played 48+3 this year and he is very much a prospect still IMO.

No reason to include playoff games. You don't count them for rookie status...

 

[Lunatik]

No reason to include playoff games. You don't count them for rookie status...

I believe a game played is a game played, they count towards waivers as well and I think waivers is a closer to defining a prospect than rookie status.

 

[Anglesmith]

I believe a game played is a game played, they count towards waivers as well and I think waivers is a closer to defining a prospect than rookie status.

Well, I feel that the number of games out of 82 gives you a good idea of how much a part of the team they are (provided they're healthy). Once you change that denominator, you should change the numerator too.

 

[Lunatik]

Well, I feel that the number of games out of 82 gives you a good idea of how much a part of the team they are (provided they're healthy). Once you change that denominator, you should change the numerator too.

Either way, it's all subjective. Which is why I laid down my criteria for prospect when I made the first poll.

 

[Bosnian Beast]

Voted Kylington, Klimchuk next (if he doesn't win at #4).

 

[Gritty]

Voted Klimchuk.

Curious if people are voting Kylington ahead of Andersson & Morrisson based on pure potential or if they actually think he's a better player? I personally think Andersson is our most underrated prospect and will turn into a gem with a few years development.

 

[herashak]

Wanna vote hickey but he needs another year to raise his stock. So I voted klimchuk

 

[Anglesmith]

Either way, it's all subjective. Which is why I laid down my criteria for prospect when I made the first poll.

I guess. Just like II, though, I have no idea where to fit Jooris into a ranking of prospects. He's basically already in the role he's destined for.

 

[Lunatik]

I guess. Just like II, though, I have no idea where to fit Jooris into a ranking of prospects. He's basically already in the role he's destined for.

use your gun to the head method

 

[Anglesmith]

use your gun to the head method

Thing is, though, that method, at least how I apply it, relies on the prospects not actually being part of the NHL team yet, because firing them into the sun hypothetically isn't supposed to change the NHL team at all.