HF GM Games Fantasy Mock Draft #3 - Discussion IV

[hockeynorth]

There aren't enough scorers in the league to just make 4 lines that have a strong chance at outproducing. You also need a line to go out there and not get scored on against opposing teams scoring lines. Ideally they can chip in. I'm pretty happy with my Crouse-Pageau-Compher 3rd line.

I feel like a line like that isn't strictly "shutdown" though, that line is damn good both ways!

 

[hockeynorth]

The problem with that though is in this game you’re never going to build a Tampa, Boston, or Toronto (and no offence, but Toronto is not a team you should be trying to build like). The talent is diluted and the parity is up because we all get an equal selection of players, that’s why I build checking lines in these games

I understand the thought process but then if we all built a checking line there'd be no checkers left

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

I understand the thought process but then if we all built a checking line there'd be no checkers left

That’s true, and if someone can build a strong third scoring line that appears like they’ll be able to create more than they allow they will have my vote

 

[hockeynorth]

Of the 16 lines here, I see one TRUE checking line, two scoring lines, and sort of a hybrid line. The checking line team was probably the most polarizing top team we've had in this yet. One scoring line was a team most here pegged as the top team. The hybrid line most had in the top 5, the other checking line had insane depth.

Chris Kreider - Mika Zibanejad - Mark Stone
Nick Foligno - David Krejci - Tyler Toffoli
Warren Foegele - Cody Glass - Dominik Kahun
Marcus Sorensen - Derek Ryan - Kyle Okposo

Conor Sheary - Sidney Crosby - Rickard Rakell
Alex DeBrincat - Pierre-Lub Dubois - Mats Zuccarello
Jordan Greenway - Mikko Koivu - Alex Steen
Sven Baertschi - Colton Sissons - Anders Bjork

Mike Hoffman - Sebastian Aho - Josh Bailey
James van Riemsdyk - Tyler Seguin - Justin Williams
Carl Hagelin - Andrew Shaw - Richard Panik
Mark Jankowski - Jordan Martinook - Sam Bennett

Gabriel Landeskog - John Tavares - Jason Zucker
Tanner Pearson - Brayden Point - Joonas Donskoi
J.T Compher - Derick Brassard - Andreas Johnsson
Zach MacEwan - Brad Richardson - Jordan Kyrou

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

Of the 16 lines here, I see one TRUE checking line, two scoring lines, and sort of a hybrid line. The checking line team was probably the most polarizing top team we've had in this yet. One scoring line was a team most here pegged as the top team. The hybrid line most had in the top 5, the other checking line had insane depth.

Chris Kreider - Mika Zibanejad - Mark Stone
Nick Foligno - David Krejci - Tyler Toffoli
Warren Foegele - Cody Glass - Dominik Kahun
Marcus Sorensen - Derek Ryan - Kyle Okposo

Conor Sheary - Sidney Crosby - Rickard Rakell
Alex DeBrincat - Pierre-Lub Dubois - Mats Zuccarello
Jordan Greenway - Mikko Koivu - Alex Steen
Sven Baertschi - Colton Sissons - Anders Bjork

Mike Hoffman - Sebastian Aho - Josh Bailey
James van Riemsdyk - Tyler Seguin - Justin Williams
Carl Hagelin - Andrew Shaw - Richard Panik
Mark Jankowski - Jordan Martinook - Sam Bennett

Gabriel Landeskog - John Tavares - Jason Zucker
Tanner Pearson - Brayden Point - Joonas Donskoi
J.T Compher - Derick Brassard - Andreas Johnsson
Zach MacEwan - Brad Richardson - Jordan Kyrou

I know which is why I said in my post that my opinion wouldn’t be popular with most voters. We are all fans here, fans love to see offence. Teams that win cups almost always have checking lines though. We’ve seen how vital guys like Matt Cullen, Marcus Kruger, and Jaret Stoll were in multiple cup runs. Those teams don’t win those cups if you stick a depth scoring option in those spots

 

[Peter Griffin]

One similarity of all those teams, legit #1 and 2 centers.

 

[hockeynorth]

I know which is why I said in my post that my opinion wouldn’t be popular with most voters. We are all fans here, fans love to see offence. Teams that win cups almost always have checking lines though. We’ve seen how vital guys like Matt Cullen, Marcus Kruger, and Jaret Stoll were in multiple cup runs. Those teams don’t win those cups if you stick a depth scoring option in those spots

Oh yeah I'm not opposed to one, I'll have one on my Vegas team, and likely one in Toronto, just interesting to see the different team building philosophies and what works.

 

[hockeynorth]

One similarity of all those teams, legit #1 and 2 centers.

Its actually interesting to see how poor some of those wingers are in comparison to some teams this team, people got so much smarter I feel like now. The rosters in these drafts keep getting better and better. I'd argue that Tampa team is the best (sorry @ConnorMcMullet just mean by my own preference) and they didn't over do it with their Cs (i.e. 3 1Cs at the expense of other positions), but they built very smart down the middle. Obviously I didn't put the D or Gs in here though.

 

[m0pe]

What happens if I run out of Cup Winning players to play their positions? This could get rough.

One position, I literally have only 2 options left (1 of of which is beyond awful). Roughhhhhh.

 

[BeLeafing]

@Llamamoto49 still have a list for @BumDum ?

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

What happens if I run out of Cup Winning players to play their positions? This could get rough.

One position, I literally have only 2 options left (1 of of which is beyond awful). Roughhhhhh.

Hmm... Cup runner up if you run out of spots?

 

[m0pe]

@Llamamoto49 still have a list for @BumDum ?

I imagine Llama is long asleep in Qatar.

 

[OB5]

We’re at 30 mins now yes?

 

[m0pe]

Hmm... Cup runner up if you run out of spots?

I guess. Dunno if that will count as breaking my restriction.

Anyways, I'll trade my best to avoid that but may run into problems in Round 19/20

 

[Peter Griffin]

We’re at 30 mins now yes?

Next round I believe.

 

[Nucker101]

I guess. Dunno if that will count as breaking my restriction.

Anyways, I'll trade my best to avoid that but may run into problems in Round 19/20

Maybe you can find a couple of depth guys who are AHL’ers now but still have NHL contracts and have played a game in the past couple of years?

 

[m0pe]

Maybe you can find a couple of depth guys who are AHL’ers now but still have NHL contracts and have played a game in the past couple of years?

Yeah I got a couple of those on my list sadly lol.

Guess I will cross that bridge when/if it comes to it.

 

[Nucker101]

Yeah I got a couple of those on my sadly lol.

Guess I will cross that bridge when/if it comes to it.

You’re a stronger man than I

 

[Peter Griffin]

Kudos to @m0pe for doing several of these games with restrictions. It's gotta be hella frustrating having such a shallow pool to pick from only to be sniped time and time again with very little else to choose from.

 

[m0pe]

Kudos to @m0pe for doing several of these games with restrictions. It's gotta be hella frustrating having such a shallow pool to pick from only to be sniped time and time again with very little else to choose from.

Thanks!

Yeah last draft was a lot more peaceful without them

I like a challenge. But I think I made this one too hard. Much harder than my Team Sweden one which was already pretty rough.

I know I'm not going to win this one, but still a fun idea. Maybe I can be in the running for the "Best Drafter" secondary award lol.

 

[OB5]

Kudos to @m0pe for doing several of these games with restrictions. It's gotta be hella frustrating having such a shallow pool to pick from only to be sniped time and time again with very little else to choose from.

I’m 100% doing one next time

 

[LT]

If I play next game I think I’ll go with a restriction as well.

 

[LT]

Do we have any suggestions for good restrictions?

I’m thinking maybe something like only picking from Canadian teams. Or maybe “southern” teams (below a certain latitude).

 

[Peter Griffin]

My restriction will be to choose only players that were chosen in the previous game.

 

[Joey Moss]

If I was able to trade between EDM/OTT I'd have the perfect 1 for 1 deal for both teams between players I took back to back. Really wish I could re-do that one.