Melrose Munch
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Then seattle is in tough. KC, Houston, Toronto. All cities that won't mess up the schedule like Quebec.I heard that KC aren't actually put in a bid and are waiting so maybe a relocation destination.
That's a fairly recent development though, isn't it?
What does this mean though? And I thought the NBA said the end of the month.
This is news to me, and I live in the Milwaukee area! The new arena needs to be open for the 2017 NBA season. That is still 27 or 28 months away.
There is a designated site. There is a proposed budget to build it. There are elements of a design with 10K seats downstairs and 7K upstairs, which is the opposite of the current arena, which was opened in October 1988.
The new 2 year state budget is supposed to start on July 1. It hasn't passed yet. If it is a few days late, it won't be the first time. The legislators will want to go home on July 3rd, so I expect it to be done by then.
not including a second tenant like a NHL team is extremely shortsighted imo. hockey playoffs are awesome to watch and theres nothing Milwaukee fans love more than beating chicago in anything-football, basketball etc. if you want to pay back the 250M sooner, you get an NHL team and Marquette as tenants.
I apologize for my ignorance, but has the NBA given Milwaukee an ultimatum?
not including a second tenant like a NHL team is extremely shortsighted imo. hockey playoffs are awesome to watch and theres nothing Milwaukee fans love more than beating chicago in anything-football, basketball etc. if you want to pay back the 250M sooner, you get an NHL team and Marquette as tenants.
all the Dems are likely to oppose it- thats 14 of the 33 members right there. 17 is needed for a majority. walker has confirmed that they will need democratic votes to pass, which given his relationship with Dems is uh, considerably less than friendly- is a tall ask. if the arena is not included in the budget, they will basically have to start all over in the new year, if that is even possible. the legislature may vote it down entirely , basically killing the deal and sealing the Bucks fate in the state. if the arena does not pass, goodbye Bucks.No it isn't. The new owners don't want to share the arena, especially with an NHL team. They don't want the AHL Admirals in the building. They may not want Marquette's men's basketball team either. There is going to be a holy war over that one, followed by some very angry Admirals fans. The third Bucks owner, Dinan, has refused to put up a cent for the new arena. I don't think that all of these pre-conditions will fly in Milwaukee.
I give the new arena a 40% chance at the moment. It is still doable, but the 3 Bucks owners have disappeared. They have antagonized the locals, the Admirals, and the state legislators. I don't think that all of the Republicans will vote for this, and many of the Democrats are against it.
No worries. Yes, have the new arena open for the 2017-18 NBA season or the NBA buys back the team for $575M. (After that, it is probably on to Seattle, unless another city can put together a better deal.)
Wow. I consider myself a fairly informed person when it comes to sports, I will admit the NBA is my weak suit, but I'm really surprised I haven't heard much about it here locally. There used to be breaking sports news reports on all the local media any time a team of any sort was on the verge of moving since they were always "potentially moving to Las Vegas." I wonder if we're just so caught up in the hockey thing nobody even cares to mention NBA here anymore.
Memphis doesn't have an NHL ready arena. As I said in the last thread, I think Cleveland could make a bid that wouldn't make any sense in real terms but would pump up Dan Gilbert's ego.
If Lamar Hunt Jr does want an NHL team, I think he might be savvy enough to wait out Phoenix, ditto Paul Allen. I think Toronto, maybe with a proposal to play in Hamilton until a new arena is built, will be the wild card bid.
Milwaukee is too small for both sports. This is the same problem Cleveland and Buffalo had in the seventies, and the reason Pittsburgh isn't in the NBA today
Milwaukee is too small for both sports. This is the same problem Cleveland and Buffalo had in the seventies, and the reason Pittsburgh isn't in the NBA today
I think it's certain we'll see bids from Quebec City and Las Vegas, and probably at least one from some Seattle entity (how credible it is, who knows?). Beyond that there's a lot of uncertainty. My guess is that there's at least one more city that bids, but the question is, who?
If we go down the list of who actually has an NHL capable arena but no franchise, Cleveland, Memphis, New Orleans, and OKC are probably too saturated to handle another team. Mumblings out of Kansas City are that for now they aren't interested; in Houston Les Alexander's silence on the issue is taken as a no. Milwaukee's arena situation is too murky, Hartford's probably not far enough ahead on the new XL Center, and Orlando can see that a 3rd NHL franchise won't work.
That leaves Toronto/Southern Ontario and Portland. The issues around the first are many and complicated, but nobody argues that it wouldn't effectively be a printing press of C$100 bills. Portland could be interested if it looks like the Seattle bid is a mess; Paul Allen made a play for the Penguins less than a decade ago, so there's clearly some interest there......
.......and though I'll get flayed alive for what I'm about to write.......I keep circling back around to the idea of a return to Atlanta. Hear me out: the Phillips Center is NHL ready, though it clearly needs a bit of sprucing up and at least one exorcism after ASG's control. There were rumordly credible individuals who did really want to buy the Thrashers when they were for sale (Tom Glavine was named as the face behind one such group); it's a massive market with huge corporate money, and before the Septo-Cluster bleeped the bleep out of everything, the Thrashers drew reasonably okay crowds. The timing is probably just slightly off, however as the Hawks new ownership team just took possession, but there have been rumblings that there's still interest with money behind it-especially if a new arena were to be built up in Cobb County near where the Braves new digs will be. It's the darkest of dark horses in this thing.
I agree that Gilbert's egomanical enough to try.
FedEx supposedly seats 16,411 for hockey according to Wikipedia, but I have a better chance of marrying a supermodel tomorrow than an NHL team in Memphis in the next two decades.
Phoenix has to be tempting, but the longer they stay, the greater chance that by some small miracle the few adults in the state actually fix that situation. There's now actually real talk of putting the Suns and Coyotes together under a new, nice roof in downtown Phoenix. I think that would actually be a successful set up and should yield something like the success the Dallas Stars have.
No, the team that's got the most fundamental problems that are less fixable plays in Miami. The geography there simply is terrible for a hockey team and you can't fix that.
According to La Presse, a faceless and nameless group of Canadian and American investors are interested in bringing a team to Houston. They haven't decided if they would bid yet.
http://affaires.lapresse.ca/201506/26/01-4881020-de-linteret-pour-une-equipe-de-la-lnh-a-houston.php
No word on who is in this group. Maybe it's IceArizona for all we know. No word if Les Alexander is involved, which he'd have to be.
The group wanted to buy the Coyotes and move them to Houston.
They want to rent Toyota Center and if that doesn't work, they want to build an arena in the north of Houston. Heh, lots of ifs.
There will be a lot more candidates than people think (if Seattle is not willing to pay 500M right now, they could be a relocation place for the Coyotes).
So right now the rumors for the bids are : Quebec, Las Vegas, Houston and Toronto.
Shocked. This is going to be too much fun!According to La Presse, a faceless and nameless group of Canadian and American investors are interested in bringing a team to Houston. They haven't decided if they would bid yet.
http://affaires.lapresse.ca/201506/26/01-4881020-de-linteret-pour-une-equipe-de-la-lnh-a-houston.php
No word on who is in this group. Maybe it's IceArizona for all we know. No word if Les Alexander is involved, which he'd have to be.
The group wanted to buy the Coyotes and move them to Houston.
They want to rent Toyota Center and if that doesn't work, they want to build an arena in the north of Houston. Heh, lots of ifs.