Head Coach

[ConnorMcMullet]

I'm actually very worried that just when we get out of a big slow methodical hockey structure, the league goes back to it. The playoffs are not giving me a good feeling.

I would disagree about tippet. He got terrible hockey teams and terrible players to completely overachieve. Arizona had no one and his teams while not good, should have been last every year

He got 77 points out a 44 year old Whitney. That's pretty impressive.

He still wouldn't be my first choice of hire.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Tippett isn't a good coach. He got absolutely nothing out of most of his guys in Arizona for his entire tenure.

Hiring Holland to then hire Tippett would be a sign that Holland was the absolute worst choice and I like Holland.

Hiring Holland and him hiring Tippett means their idea is slow, big and methodical hockey which would get absolutely in today's NHL.

McDavid and Draisaitls offense would drop. The teams defense would improve slightly but the team would still wallow in ****

Disagree on his results in Arizona. He took a terrible Arizona team to the playoffs several years in a row and made a very good run one year.

The talent he had to work with was bare bones outside 1-2 players. How is that working out for us here? Pretty much the same.

And one thing with Tippets teams, you rarely out worked them. They simply didn’t have the talent to compete. I saw a ton of Coyote games in Arizona in my time there. He did a lot with next to nothing.

 

[replacement]

A good article on Tippett: Dave Tippett hired to set up NHL Seattle's foundation - NHL to SEATTLE

 

[McDNicks17]

Tippett is a genius choice.

It was Rieder's fault they missed the playoffs. Rieder played his best hockey under Tippett. Guaranteed playoffs.

 

[The Nuge]

Dave Tippet would be a great hire. Got the most out of pretty bad ARI teams. Would be great here.

Agreed. He’s always managed to get low skill teams to over perform. And we sure don’t have a lot of skill up front

 

[BigFuzzyDice]

Tippett is a genius choice.

It was Rieder's fault they missed the playoffs. Rieder played his best hockey under Tippett. Guaranteed playoffs.

Bobby burgers already gave Rieder his walking papers (stupid really ,he probably comes cheap and statistically can't recreate last year. most likely returns to his average) , If the new gm's biggest "over the obc's head" move is to resign toby and not fire the red wine club we're screwed.

all this holland talk is keeping my Nelson dream alive though.

 

[McDNicks17]

Bobby burgers already gave Rieder his walking papers (stupid really ,he probably comes cheap and statistically can't recreate last year. most likely returns to his average) , If the new gm's biggest "over the obc's head" move is to resign toby and not fire the red wine club we're screwed.

all this holland talk is keeping my Nelson dream alive though.

I love it. That would be 4D underwater chess.

Blame the season on Rieder and tell everyone he won't be back, so the new GM can come in and re-sign Rieder to show the fans that the OBC isn't in charge anymore.

 

[oilers'72]

Bobby burgers already gave Rieder his walking papers (stupid really ,he probably comes cheap and statistically can't recreate last year. most likely returns to his average) , If the new gm's biggest "over the obc's head" move is to resign toby and not fire the red wine club we're screwed.

all this holland talk is keeping my Nelson dream alive though.

Reider made $2M last year, is an RFA with arbitration eligiblity and would have to get a raise. Unless he's actually a goalie, no goals on 94 shots doesn't cut it. Not worth it to find a coach just to try and motivate him.

 

[cobra427]

Disagree on his results in Arizona. He took a terrible Arizona team to the playoffs several years in a row and made a very good run one year.

The talent he had to work with was bare bones outside 1-2 players. How is that working out for us here? Pretty much the same.

And one thing with Tippets teams, you rarely out worked them. They simply didn’t have the talent to compete. I saw a ton of Coyote games in Arizona in my time there. He did a lot with next to nothing.

Tip would get more out of the rank and file Oiler players, he basically got blood out of a stone for years in AZ, the team way over achieved. Many AZ players that went elsewhere saw their stats/play suffer. Tip got 35+ points out of Reider just one example of getting more with less. McD/Drai will learn to be more complete players as well.

 

[nabob]

Tip would get more out of the rank and file Oiler players, he basically got blood out of a stone for years in AZ, the team way over achieved. Many AZ players that went elsewhere saw their stats/play suffer. Tip got 35+ points out of Reider just one example of getting more with less. McD/Drai will learn to be more complete players as well.

Give McDavid and Drai the green light and then trap like hell with the lack of skill on the other lines.

 

[Soundwave]

Give McDavid and Drai the green light and then trap like hell with the lack of skill on the other lines.

Isn't that basically what they were supposed to be doing under Hitchcock? That worked ... for like 8 games.

 

[nabob]

Isn't that basically what they were supposed to be doing under Hitchcock? That worked ... for like 8 games.

Worked until Klefbom got hurt and Sekera was still out. That left Nurse all by himself as our only decent puck mover. Sekera looked better than most expected when he came back so that’s a potential positive moving forward into next season. I think priority 1 should be doing anything we can to unload Russell and Lucic’s contracts.

 

[Soundwave]

Worked until Klefbom got hurt and Sekera was still out. That left Nurse all by himself as our only decent puck mover. Sekera looked better than most expected when he came back so that’s a potential positive moving forward into next season. I think priority 1 should be doing anything we can to unload Russell and Lucic’s contracts.

I think it's going to be a problem because to move contracts like means you're giving away draft picks most likely and I don't think Ken Holland or Keith Gretzky for that matter are gonna be on board with that.

They may just ride out this season with both and then see what can be done the summer after this one. Russell is only 1 year left and should be easy to move, Lucic gets progressively easier to move with less term and declining salary.

I think honestly their best bet is to try and find the best 1A/B goalie they can ... they must have good goaltending to make up for numerous other team weaknesses, and probably need a vet.

 

[nabob]

I think it's going to be a problem because to move contracts like means you're giving away draft picks most likely and I don't think Ken Holland or Keith Gretzky for that matter are gonna be on board with that.

They may just ride out this season with both and then see what can be done the summer after this one. Russell is only 1 year left and should be easy to move, Lucic gets progressively easier to move with less term and declining salary.

I think honestly their best bet is to try and find the best 1A/B goalie they can ... they must have good goaltending to make up for numerous other team weaknesses, and probably need a vet.

All very true. Just sucks to think we’re going to waste another year getting rid of the scars that chia left us with.

I agree ride Koskinen when he’s hot but they need a real option for the other roster spot. Not sure who’s available, but there’s always a few guys every year.

 

[foshizzle]

Look at Friedman's tweet. If we hire Holland, Tippett would be an option to him

Pederson says he isn’t, and I’m taking his word over Friedman’s

 

[foshizzle]

Why do we hate Babcock again?

 

[North]

Pederson says he isn’t, and I’m taking his word over Friedman’s

Considering Holland hasn't even officially been introduced the Tippett idea has to just be spec on Friedman's part.

 

[Del Preston]

Dreger says he is led to believe the Tippett speculation is a little premature.

 

[guymez]

At this point in time my opinion on the coach is that I do not want Hitch coaching this team next season.

 

[TakeTheBody]

Leaf fan I come in peace. I'm hoping Holland can trade for Babcock. Second rounder?

 

[Cloned]

AV hires Therrien. LOL, it’s like an ex-Habs coach reunion over there.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

Why do we hate Babcock again?

Babcock IS TMac.
They're the same coach. Rolling lines, no matching at all.

Watch the Game 7 loss to the Bruins as one of the most pathetic displays of coaching I'd seen in the modern era.

Down by a goal for nearly an entire period... play Mathews 18mins.

Who do they put on as the extra attacker? Old, useless Patrick Marleau.



How the hell does that not scream Tmac to you? He let their prize stables get matched against AT HOME.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Reider made $2M last year, is an RFA with arbitration eligiblity and would have to get a raise. Unless he's actually a goalie, no goals on 94 shots doesn't cut it. Not worth it to find a coach just to try and motivate him.

You don’t qualify him and can sign him for less.

Whether or not he would sign here is a different story.

 

[MaxR11]

 

[Del Preston]

Yes. Bring him home.