GDT: hcanes @ tbl

[SlavinAway]

PK is improving; they didn't give up more goals than the PP. Wait...

 

[MinJaBen]

Fix the special teams and they'll be fine.

Sure. Can the coaching staff do it, though? All I’ve seen from them so far was a PP and PK that seemed to be working in the preseason get changed to the crap we have now, then almost nothing to fix it.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

This same kind of stuff happened to the good teams of the early 2000's. That team that lost to Detroit in the SCF would put up 40-45 SOG but couldn't buy a goal to save its damn life. It's as much as part of the Canes identity as red uniforms.

This kind of stuff happens to hockey teams.

 

[Ole Gil]

One thing on the PK, is the forwards have not looked very good at pressuring the puck. Seems like they are chasing it around too much but always a step behind. It creates some tough situations for the rest of the killers.

Hopefully they can sort that out. because they are so strong at even strength, it'd be shame to watch them lose games all season because of a garbage PK.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Sure. Can the coaching staff do it, though? All I’ve seen from them so far was a PP and PK that seemed to be working in the preseason get changed to the crap we have now, then almost nothing to fix it.

At least we know Dundon will be asking the same question repeatedly until it gets fixed.

 

[Wild Caniac]

Definitely not brushing off the fact that our power play f***ing blows but again, tampa literally hasnt allowed ONE PP GOAL in their 4 games. That's not easy to get over.

Winnipeg could have been a win. This game in almost every fashion was an auto loss but they only lost both of these games essentially off of singular mistakes. (Bad line change, de haan goofed)

I'd rather lose a game of inches than get blown out every game like the majority of Hurricanes teams have looked in the past 10 seasons. This team is enjoyable to watch and these losses will happen. It's frustrating, but compared to previous years, losses like these will barely sting.

God knows when this team gets a 5-1 win on Colorado with McElhinney in net this game will be forgotten immediately.

 

[The Faulker 27]

Any smart coach would drop standard procedure and go into full special teams lockdown until Saturday. Probably give the guys tomorrow off, but 100% special teams stuff Thursday and Friday.

Rod pretty much put it on the players in the post game. He's not wrong, your best players need to step up, but the PP looks identical every time. That's if they even gain the zone.

 

[SabresSharks]

Lots of off-days coming up. Time for the coaching staff to make adjustments to special teams, and work on them in practice.

 

[tarheelhockey]

At least we know Dundon will be asking the same question repeatedly until it gets fixed.

It's going to be a very interesting dynamic between Tom and Rod when this stuff comes up.

 

[Ole Gil]

Another tidbit about these backup goalies, at even strength, the canes Shooting % is 9.09, which is middle of the pack at 14th. Given their volume of shooting (30es shots a game), that's more than fine.

It's really solely the PP where they can't get the puck in (3.64%) and goalies magically turn into Carl Vezina.

That's so low, it has to be flukey. Teams don't shoot 6% lower on the powerplay than at even strength. Even last year, when it was as bad as always, they shot 11% on the PP. (at even strength, team shot 7.03 for 4th lowest in league)

So this one should right itself in a pretty big way on it's own soon enough. At least to being normal bad, rather than the nightmare it is now.

 

[hurricure]

I only came in here to fart anyway... hate the triplets

 

[zman77]

McElhinney back in Net next game.
All he does is Win!!

 

[HisIceness]

Sure. Can the coaching staff do it, though? All I’ve seen from them so far was a PP and PK that seemed to be working in the preseason get changed to the crap we have now, then almost nothing to fix it.

Judging from past experience, I have very little faith in Rod in coaching special teams. That was a big concern when he first got the job.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Another tidbit about these backup goalies, at even strength, the canes Shooting % is 9.09, which is middle of the pack at 14th. Given their volume of shooting (30es shots a game), that's more than fine.

It's really solely the PP where they can't get the puck in (3.64%) and goalies magically turn into Carl Vezina.

That's so low, it has to be flukey. Teams don't shoot 6% lower on the powerplay than at even strength. Even last year, when it was as bad as always, they shot 11% on the PP. (at even strength, team shot 7.03 for 4th lowest in league)

So this one should right itself in a pretty big way on it's own soon enough. At least to being normal bad, rather than the nightmare it is now.

I mean, it doesn't really feel like we're getting tons of great chances and then robbed by a fluke save. To bring that number up significantly we're going to have to actually be better.

 

[Roboturner913]

One thing on the PK, is the forwards have not looked very good at pressuring the puck. Seems like they are chasing it around too much but always a step behind.

To some extent, we traded off on good PK forwards for offensive depth. Lindholm and Nordstrom were very good PKers, and there's nobody on the roster that looks even close to replacing them in that regard.

 

[Ole Gil]

I mean, it doesn't really feel like we're getting tons of great chances and then robbed by a fluke save. To bring that number up significantly we're going to have to actually be better.

That’s silly. 3% shooting on the PP is not sustainable. They can play way worse, and it’ll still go up. The trick is getting it to a decent number rather than 7 or 8.

 

[Ole Gil]

To some extent, we traded off on good PK forwards for offensive depth. Lindholm and Nordstrom were very good PKers, and there's nobody on the roster that looks even close to replacing them in that regard.

Were they any good last year? Although, that may have been more goaltending related. Put out the bat signal for Patty Dwyer!

 

[DougieSmash]

We always lose against Avs, so there's that.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

We always lose against Avs, so there's that.

And they are scary good this year, so it doesn’t look like this losing streak is going to end anytime soon.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

They're icing nhl talent at special teams. They either have some of the worst coaching in the League, or (likely) they'll stabalize and progress to the mean.

 

[TheBigKahuna]

One thing on the PK, is the forwards have not looked very good at pressuring the puck. Seems like they are chasing it around too much but always a step behind. It creates some tough situations for the rest of the killers.

Hopefully they can sort that out. because they are so strong at even strength, it'd be shame to watch them lose games all season because of a garbage PK.

You hit the nail on the head. They are chasing the puck, not the puck carrier. Playing poke check hockey is how you lose games and miss playoffs. If you don't knock the player of the puck occasionally, you don't win. Period.

Way too much Candy Canes hockey tonight.

 

[tarheelhockey]

That’s silly. 3% shooting on the PP is not sustainable. They can play way worse, and it’ll still go up. The trick is getting it to a decent number rather than 7 or 8.

So, did you miss the word "significantly", or... ?

 

[zman77]

Michael Smith‏ @MSmithCanes 1h1 hour ago

Rod Brind'Amour:
"The difference is we've got little, little margins.
So, when you self-destruct on certain things, you can't come back.
It's going to come back to bite you against these great teams."

 

[Drivebytrucker]

What should be our team motto?

Carolina Hurricanes: We miss 100% of the shots we don't take and 98% of the ones we do

Carolina Hurricanes: Getting back up goalies contract extensions since 2009

 

[CandyCanes]

What should be our team motto?

Carolina Hurricanes: We miss 100% of the shots we don't take and 98% of the ones we do

Carolina Hurricanes: Getting back up goalies contract extensions since 2009

The first one is incredible, I vote that one