GAGLine
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I'm not really surprised, but I thought it was a possibility given his success this year and given that he is a year older than the typical sophomore.
Prospect Info: Hartford Wolf Pack/Cincinnati Cyclones Thread: Part XV
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Not believing that Seattle would be up for this but I would offer Othmann for their 2024 first.
If they balk, I then add Robertson and see if they’d bite?
If they balk, I then add Robertson and see if they’d bite?
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IMO he went as far and reach as much as he could at this level. He's also not on the younger(est) side of his draft class, he's not in the prominent college program or highly ranked program in terms of education he received.
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I don't think the addition of Robertson would move the needle much.
Who would you be targeting with that pick?
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I know you've followed HFD, what's the reasoning behind giving up on Othmann already?
Othmann is 21. Next season is a watershed moment for his hockey career.
I’m a believer in selling high and I am always happy when I am proven wrong when it comes to benefiting the Rangers organization. Be that stated I’m of the opinion that after watching Brennan all season that he is not going to develop into an everyday NHL player.
A slower Jonny Brodzinski with a better shot. Only takes the body if it is right in front of him. Doesn’t protect the house. Rarely drives the net instead chooses to shoot from the circle. His shot was deadly in the CHL not sure it will be effective against NHL goalies.
His even strength goal total is less than half his total goals scored which is a concerning stat.
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Berard is everything you could want in a 1st year pro.
Fearless, drives the net, checks all the boxes in passing and shooting. Takes the body, doesn’t back down. Plays in all three zones, can skate and plays on specialty teams.
Looking forward to him getting into some NHL games next season.
Most importantly of all Brett’s strengths is that he Drives Play.
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GAGLine
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This feels a bit alarmist.
Does he have stuff he needs to work on? Absolutely. But let's not act like he's on the brink of being a bust 1 year into his pro career. Despite his warts, he has 45 points in 63 games. There's no reason to think he won't improve.
Othmann would be available in a trade for me for a similar defenseman.
I feel like it’s an area that we really need to address. I like Fortescue’s upside but he needs time and is far from a sure thing.
I feel like it’s an area that we really need to address. I like Fortescue’s upside but he needs time and is far from a sure thing.
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He had a strong season last year, and a then strong postseason.
This year got complicated, finding a team, finding a spot on his rights' team, getting traded...
What the scouts saw during draft prep should have weight too
Most teenage athletes don't develop in straight lines
Some folks here seem to be in a hurry to sort prospects into 'keep' or 'dump'
I'm the opposite, i don't feel confidant projecting a player's ceiling til ~ their 3rd contract ...
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they also haven't given him a contract yet...this could be nothing more than wanting to get a closer look at him for the rest of the year before having to make a decision by june 1st.
Barbashev's game was never going to be offense, despite what many hoped. Too much association with his brother.
Nothing wrong with bringing him to Hartford to take a closer look. Everyone's flavor of the week Matt Rempe looked like his development had regressed or at least stagnated in junior, and he came to Hartford and started playing the game he was actually suited for. I don't think much of Barbashev but if he can come and play physically and be a pest while chipping in some points, he may still have a path.
And it's just an ATO, there's no ELC here. No harm in seeing what you have.
Nothing wrong with bringing him to Hartford to take a closer look. Everyone's flavor of the week Matt Rempe looked like his development had regressed or at least stagnated in junior, and he came to Hartford and started playing the game he was actually suited for. I don't think much of Barbashev but if he can come and play physically and be a pest while chipping in some points, he may still have a path.
And it's just an ATO, there's no ELC here. No harm in seeing what you have.
I think your points are fair with regards to his play this year. In fact, when Othamnn got off to the hot start I was trying to tell people in this thread to tap the brakes for many of the reason that you outline. But it's only his first pro year. And he does have an NHL quality shot. I think he's been adversely affected in Hartford by the lack of center play that can get him pucks in spots where he can use his shooting talent. I see a guy who right now looks to me like a Frank Vatrano. With a creative center he could be a good goal scorer. Not a first line player but someone who could have a good career. I also wonder in reading all of his quotes that he knows the things he needs to work on and he is thinking too much rather than just playing. From all of the reports around the trade deadline it appears he was not made available by the Rangers.
And while it's always nice to have more draft picks, this team is built to compete now and I think its unlikely that the team trades a guy who they think might be able to play in the NHL in the next year or two for a player that could be 2-4 years away from playing.
and those 2 ATOs are official. the pack tweeted them as well
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Hartford plays Springfield tonight. Springfield is in 7th place in the Atlantic Division, 7 points behind 5th place Hartford.
If Hartford wins tonight in regulation, they will clinch a playoff spot.
Lehigh Valley is the 6th place team, 3 points behind Hartford. They play Hershey tonight, the best team in the league. We want Hartford to finish in the 5th spot. If they finish in 6th, they will play Hershey in round 1.
All 3 teams have 5 games left going into tonight.
If Hartford wins tonight in regulation, they will clinch a playoff spot.
Lehigh Valley is the 6th place team, 3 points behind Hartford. They play Hershey tonight, the best team in the league. We want Hartford to finish in the 5th spot. If they finish in 6th, they will play Hershey in round 1.
All 3 teams have 5 games left going into tonight.
Irishguy42
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Brett Berard is playing well as always.
Belzile scores at 13:19 then Jake
Leschshyn scored on a tip-in at 10:30 and Blake Hillman scored from the point at 1:42 of the 2nd. 4-1 Hartford
Domingue in net.
End of the second.
Belzile scores at 13:19 then Jake
Leschshyn scored on a tip-in at 10:30 and Blake Hillman scored from the point at 1:42 of the 2nd. 4-1 Hartford
Domingue in net.
End of the second.
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The Pack tried to give it away, letting up 2 goals, but Domingue scored an empty netter to make it 5-3.
And...game over. Hartford wins 5-3 and clinches a playoff spot. Lehigh Valley lost, so Hartford is up 5 points on them for the 5th spot with 4 games left.
And...game over. Hartford wins 5-3 and clinches a playoff spot. Lehigh Valley lost, so Hartford is up 5 points on them for the 5th spot with 4 games left.
Louie Domingue scores.
Pack win 5-3
Hartford officially in the playoffs.
Pack win 5-3
Hartford officially in the playoffs.
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