Not sure why or how he thinks pouting his way thru the last two weeks is going to get him to NY any faster. If anything it’s going to get him on a one way flight back to Siberia. This is starting to look really bad
Prospect Info: Hartford Wolf Pack (AHL)/Maine Mariners (ECHL) Thread: Part XI
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Sucks to hear... There have been much better players than Kravtsov that have had to endure the rigors of the AHL. Five good games is all it takes sometimes to get back to the bigs... it's not like he was ever destined to spend the year there. I'm disappointed considering I've only heard good things about his attitude
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I didn't go overboard in my thinking when Krav was benched and then scratched (b2b in less than 24 hrs) last weekend and I won't with a poor showing this time around. Hopefully the "pouting" was more of a symptom of frustration from not doing what he believes he can do at that level. In the end, once again, we'll see how the coaching staff responds.
Maybe I'm jumping the gun (No one really knows how serious this is) but If i'm JD and JG I'm having a sit down with this kid. We can not...I Mean we can not afford to have this kid go off the tracks. We are already starting to under utilize our 7th overall pick from the previous year. We need this kid to eventually make a top 6 forward impact
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Yikes. No offense to AK, but lets not go crazy with one person’s opinion that he looked like he was pouting on the bench. We have no idea what was happening.
Didn't watch the game but from most accounts, Kravtsov played well in the beginning of the game but cooled off as the game progressed. He got pulled after a rough stretch in his own zone and got pulled in a game where they had a 1 point lead. Seems like they just don't trust him defensively at the moment.
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There could be a bunch of things going on with Kravtsov. For one he could be homesick. It's a big cultural adjustment for a 20 year old. Another thing I don't think the AHL gets enough respect. It's a tough league to play in--you have to work hard for your points--it's also a long grinding schedule and Hartford has yet to get to the bus riding part of it but that's coming too. It's got to be one of the least (if not the least) fun leagues to play in--the grind, the smaller rinks, the constant wrestling match going on getting the puck up the ice, the overall physical play. In that respect Vitali is a big guy but he also needs to get stronger. Chytil has got that bull like size and strength--he's a load to deal with. Kravtsov not so much. It's right that he earns his ice time--coaching and staff can work with him on that. He's an extremely important player for our future.
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this is why these broads can be so silly, with all these 'hot takes,' amateur psychologists, and rushing to judgement.
the re-build ("Build") has always gonna demanded patience, and that process is still going,
having KK, Krav, Fox, Shesty in Camp didn't end the build, it just shifted into a next, but still EARLY, phase of the process, which was always gonna stretch over multiple seasons
Krav is a 19 year old kid with 2 games of NA pro hockey experience, who showed in KHL and international tournaments what he is capable of.
NYR team management, i am sure, sees nothing extraordinary here;
please, don't let impatience, short-sightedness or self-importance lead to making such a big deal of Krav's first 2 games, please back away from demanding your expectations be met immediately, resist the itch for instant gratification,
calm down, friends. enjoy the ride
as we have for 2 years, see the silver lining of road to the bright future, remind yourself that the bumps and ruts along the way are unavoidable part of the journey
Yeah, I am always a little gun shy to claim that someone is not playing well because they aren't trying. We heard the same thing about Lias last season. I think people started to talk about it just because he didn't produce for a stretch in the AHL.
I've not seen the game. But just in general, we should be careful to say that someone isn't putting in an effort just because they aren't performing.
Remember that the AHL game is -- VERY -- different from the NHL, not to mention the KHL. If he was having trouble adjusting to the NHL, the adjustment he must do to the AHL is of course 3-4x as big.
Hehe, I also think part of the problem is people taking "'hot takes,' amateur psychologists, and rushing to judgement" to seriously and running with them.
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I'm criticising his effort. Or lack thereof. That has nothing to do with talent or skill.
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Lost in everything was a good performance by Igor.
Stopped 17of 18 shots and was named 2nd star of yesterdays game.
Stopped 17of 18 shots and was named 2nd star of yesterdays game.
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Krav knows he's needed in New York and he'll be playing with the bigs eventually. He really needs to just embrace his time at Hartford. I mean you're with two of your good friends in Rykov and Igor. You're very possibly the best prospect we have that's not in the NHL. You're getting your first taste of North America. You're getting paid well.
Embrace it, man. Have fun. You're going to be playing in MSG before you know it.
Embrace it, man. Have fun. You're going to be playing in MSG before you know it.
Exactly right. He wouldn't be the first all talent player that goes on to have a good career in Europe.
Lias pouted and looked like shit when he was sent back down last season. He is obviously doing fine from an attitude and effort standpoint this year. These are young guys. I wouldn't worry about it yet.
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His first stint, he was constantly engaged and fighting for pucks and just like a little heat-seaking missile out there. A short time after going down he just looked almost disinterested at times and wasn't nearly as involved as he was before. He wasn't pushing the play, it was like he was reactive and not proactive.
Of course, just like with the Kravtsov thing, this was just my impression of things, and may be incorrect. With Lias I don't remember anyone ever mentioning the staff being upset with him--it just looked like he was pouting to me, and a few others.
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Chytil puts the pack up 1:0 over the Americans
no joey keane today if anyone looking for something meaningless to get triggered over
Svenhart2008
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If you want something to get triggered over:
Vitali Kravtsov has not yet registered a shot on goal in the AHL.
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Boo makes it 2:0 Pack. KRAVTSOV with the assist!
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