Handball

[Eye of Ra]

My own Sweden started good so far, both the men and women have won all games but our mens team is struggling playing-wise. I still have hope for a medal thought, we do have 2 silver-medals last 4 years and many good players. Hampus Wanne might be the best player in the entire world last 2 seasons.

Denmark (men) and Netherlands (women) is the favorites.

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[QuietContrarian]

Hopefully Denmark do well, but there is a thing in Handball called the "Denmark syndrome"

Which is they never play a good tourney after winning a tourney.

Won Euro 2008 - Finished 4th in the 2009 WC

Won Euro 2012 - Absolutely bottled the 2013 WC final against Spain (Biggest final loss in a WC ever)

Won 2016 Olympics - Cruised thru their group in the 2017 WC, only to loose the QF against Hungary who finished 4th in their group.

Won the 2019 WC - Didn't make it out of their group in the 2020 Euros for the first time in two decades (Since Euro 2000) That's 9 Euros ago.

Won the 2021 WC - Let's wait and see.

 

[QuietContrarian]

And if any non handball knowledgeable people ask.

The most succesfull Handball nations of all time are

In no particular order:

Sweden
Russia
Denmark
France
Spain
Croatia

Sweden and Russias success is in the past tho, 80s and 90s.

Tho, Sweden have been doing well again lately - Faced Denmark in the 2021 WC final.

The last two Decades tho have belonged to France, Denmark, Spain and Croatia.

France top the list since 2000, followed by Denmark, then Spain and then Croatia.

France

Olympics: Gold in 2008 and 2012, Silver in 2016.

Euros: Gold in 2006, 2010 and 2014, Bronze in 2008 and 2018.

WC: Gold in 2001, 2009, 2011, 2015 and 2017, Bronze in 2003, 2005 and 2019.

10 Gold, 1 Silver, and 5 Bronze in the last 2 decades - 16 medals.

Denmark

Olympics: Gold in 2016.

Euro: Gold in 2008 and 2012, Silver in 2014, Bronze in 2002, 2004, and 2006.

WC: Gold in 2019 and 2021, Silver in 2011 and 2013, Bronze in 2007.

5 Gold, 3 Silver, and 4 Bronze in the last 2 decades - 12 medals.

Spain

Olympics: Bronze in 2000 and 2008.

Euro: Gold in 2018 and 2020, silver in 2006 and 2016, Bronze in 2000 and 2014.

WC: Gold in 2005 and 2013, Bronze in 2011 and 2021.

4 Gold, 2 Silver, and 6 Bronze in the last 2 decades - 12 medals.

Croatia

Olympics: Gold in 2004, Bronze in 2012.

Euro: Silver in 2008, 2010 and 2020, Bronze in 2012 and 2016.

WC: Gold in 2003, Silver in 2005 and 2009, Bronze in 2013.

2 Gold, 5 Silver, and 4 Bronze in the last 2 decades - 11 medals.


France, Denmark and Russia are the only 3 to be in the tripple gold club.
In handball that is Gold in the WC, Euros and Olympics.

 

[QuietContrarian]

And since I can only find full matches from Denmark, I will post the last two WC finals.

 

[QuietContrarian]

Best players in the world right now are:

Mathias Gidsel, 22, Right back, Denmark - Voted worlds best young player 20/21.



Nicklas Landin, 30, Goalkeeper, Denmark - Worlds best hanball player 2019 (Big feat. for a goalie)
This guy is possibly the best goalie to have ever graced the game - Has won EVERYTHING, Champions League, German League (Strongest league), Euros, WC, and Olympics.



Mikkel Hansen, 33, Left Back/Playmaker, Denmark - Voted worlds best player in 2011, 2015 and 2018 officially, aswell as a few "unofficial" titles from the biggest hanball site.
Top 1-3 player of all time.

• IHF World Player of the Year - Men: 2011,2015 og 2018[12]
• Topscorer WC in 2011 og 2019
• Left back All-star team at WC in 2011 og 2021
• Left Back on All-star team at Euro 2012, 2014 og 2018
• Left Back on All-star team at OG 2016
• Most Valuable Player (MVP) WC in 2013, 2019 og 2021
• Most Valuable Player (MVP) at OG 2016
• Playmaker on All-Star team in 2014, 2015 and 2020 in EHF Champions League
• Left back on All-Star team in 2017, 2019 and 2021 in EHF Champions League
• Topscorer in EHF Champions League 2011-2012 og 2015-16
• Topscorer in LNH Division 1 (French League) in 2015 og 2016

 

[QuietContrarian]

Sander Sagosen, 25, Playmaker, Norway - Voted best player in the world by the unofficial handball site, handball planet in 2018.

• Handball-Planet – Best World Handball Player: 2018[3]
• All-Star Left back of the World Championship: 2017,[4] 2019
• All-Star Left back of the European Championship: 2020
• All-Star Centre back of the European Championship: 2016,[5] 2018
• Top scorer of the European Championship: 2020 (65 goals)
• All-Star Left Back of the EHF Champions League: 2020
• All-Star Centre Back of the EHF Champions League: 2018
• Top Goalscorer of the Danish Handball League: 2017
• The World Young Player 2014/2015 (by the Internet side Handball-Planet.com)
• The World Young Player 2015/2016 (by the Internet side Handball-Planet.com)
• The World Young Player 2016/2017 (by the Internet side Handball-Planet.com)

Nikola Karabatic, 37, Centre back, France - Worlds best player in 2007, 2014, and 2016.
Best two way player, possibly ever.

• IHF World Player of the Year – Men
  • Winner: 2007, 2014, 2016
  • Second: 2009, 2010, 2015:
  • Most Valuable Player (MVP) of the World Championship (2): 2011, 2017
  • Most Valuable Player (MVP) of the European Championship (2): 2008, 2014
  • Top Scorer of the European Championship: 2008
  • All-Star Centre back of the Olympic Games: 2012, 2016
  • All-Star Centre back of the World Championship: 2009, 2015
  • All-Star Centre back of the European Championship: 2010
  • All-Star Left back of the World Championship: 2007
  • All-Star Left back of the European Championship: 2004
  • Best player of Tournoi de France: 2007, 2011

Can't be bothered to post details on more.

But here are a few that are considered world class.

Uwe Gensheimer, 34, Left back, Germany.
Domagoj Duvnjak, 33, Left back/Playmaker, Croatia.
Alex Dujsjebajev, 28, Right Back, Spain.
Rasmus Lauge, 30, Playmaker, Denmark.
Ludovic Fabregas, 25, Pivot, France.
Dika Mem, 23, Right back, France.
Niclas Ekberg, 32, Right wing, Sweden.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Sander Sagosen, 25, Playmaker, Norway - Voted best player in the world by the unofficial handball site, handball planet in 2018.

• Handball-Planet – Best World Handball Player: 2018[3]
• All-Star Left back of the World Championship: 2017,[4] 2019
• All-Star Left back of the European Championship: 2020
• All-Star Centre back of the European Championship: 2016,[5] 2018
• Top scorer of the European Championship: 2020 (65 goals)
• All-Star Left Back of the EHF Champions League: 2020
• All-Star Centre Back of the EHF Champions League: 2018
• Top Goalscorer of the Danish Handball League: 2017
• The World Young Player 2014/2015 (by the Internet side Handball-Planet.com)
• The World Young Player 2015/2016 (by the Internet side Handball-Planet.com)
• The World Young Player 2016/2017 (by the Internet side Handball-Planet.com)

Nikola Karabatic, 37, Centre back, France - Worlds best player in 2007, 2014, and 2016.
Best two way player, possibly ever.

• IHF World Player of the Year – Men
  • Winner: 2007, 2014, 2016
  • Second: 2009, 2010, 2015:
  • Most Valuable Player (MVP) of the World Championship (2): 2011, 2017
  • Most Valuable Player (MVP) of the European Championship (2): 2008, 2014
  • Top Scorer of the European Championship: 2008
  • All-Star Centre back of the Olympic Games: 2012, 2016
  • All-Star Centre back of the World Championship: 2009, 2015
  • All-Star Centre back of the European Championship: 2010
  • All-Star Left back of the World Championship: 2007
  • All-Star Left back of the European Championship: 2004
  • Best player of Tournoi de France: 2007, 2011

Can't be bothered to post details on more.

But here are a few that are considered world class.

Uwe Gensheimer, 34, Left back, Germany.
Domagoj Duvnjak, 33, Left back/Playmaker, Croatia.
Alex Dujsjebajev, 28, Right Back, Spain.
Rasmus Lauge, 30, Playmaker, Denmark.
Ludovic Fabregas, 25, Pivot, France.
Dika Mem, 23, Right back, France.

gensheimer and diem better than nicklas ekberg and hampus wanne ?

 

[QuietContrarian]

gensheimer and diem better than nicklas ekberg and hampus wanne ?

There is a case for Hampus and Ekberg competing with them for sure.

But Uwe hans some insane jump in him, and Dika is just an amazing young player.

But, I can see why some would prefer the two Swedes.

But to be fair, I never said they were better, I wrote I could list more player.

Ekberg for sure is world class, not sure if I put Hampus in that category tho.

 

[JackSlater]

I never see handball outside of the Olympics and I have no rooting interest in any of the matches, but I always enjoy it. Story of the Olympics really.

 

[Eisen]

Sander Sagosen, 25, Playmaker, Norway - Voted best player in the world by the unofficial handball site, handball planet in 2018.

• Handball-Planet – Best World Handball Player: 2018[3]
• All-Star Left back of the World Championship: 2017,[4] 2019
• All-Star Left back of the European Championship: 2020
• All-Star Centre back of the European Championship: 2016,[5] 2018
• Top scorer of the European Championship: 2020 (65 goals)
• All-Star Left Back of the EHF Champions League: 2020
• All-Star Centre Back of the EHF Champions League: 2018
• Top Goalscorer of the Danish Handball League: 2017
• The World Young Player 2014/2015 (by the Internet side Handball-Planet.com)
• The World Young Player 2015/2016 (by the Internet side Handball-Planet.com)
• The World Young Player 2016/2017 (by the Internet side Handball-Planet.com)

Nikola Karabatic, 37, Centre back, France - Worlds best player in 2007, 2014, and 2016.
Best two way player, possibly ever.

• IHF World Player of the Year – Men
  • Winner: 2007, 2014, 2016
  • Second: 2009, 2010, 2015:
  • Most Valuable Player (MVP) of the World Championship (2): 2011, 2017
  • Most Valuable Player (MVP) of the European Championship (2): 2008, 2014
  • Top Scorer of the European Championship: 2008
  • All-Star Centre back of the Olympic Games: 2012, 2016
  • All-Star Centre back of the World Championship: 2009, 2015
  • All-Star Centre back of the European Championship: 2010
  • All-Star Left back of the World Championship: 2007
  • All-Star Left back of the European Championship: 2004
  • Best player of Tournoi de France: 2007, 2011

Can't be bothered to post details on more.

But here are a few that are considered world class.

Uwe Gensheimer, 34, Left back, Germany.
Domagoj Duvnjak, 33, Left back/Playmaker, Croatia.
Alex Dujsjebajev, 28, Right Back, Spain.
Rasmus Lauge, 30, Playmaker, Denmark.
Ludovic Fabregas, 25, Pivot, France.
Dika Mem, 23, Right back, France.

That's a nice write up but I have to disagree about Gensheimer. He once was but he is past his prime. He was bad at the WC and is benched rather often.

 

[QuietContrarian]

That's a nice write up but I have to disagree about Gensheimer. He once was but he is past his prime. He was bad at the WC and is benched rather often.

You know more about Uwe than I, so fair enough

 

[QuietContrarian]

I never see handball outside of the Olympics and I have no rooting interest in any of the matches, but I always enjoy it. Story of the Olympics really.

What’s your nationality?

If not from a Handballing nation, you should really give it a go

 

[QuietContrarian]

gensheimer and diem better than nicklas ekberg and hampus wanne ?

Put Ekberg on the list

 

[JackSlater]

What’s your nationality?

If not from a Handballing nation, you should really give it a go

I'm from Canada. As far as I know it has no television presence and it isn't something I think to look up online. I also played handball in gym class in school over the years and really enjoyed it. Handball is always a highlight for me when the summer Olympics roll around.

 

[QuietContrarian]

I'm from Canada. As far as I know it has no television presence and it isn't something I think to look up online. I also played handball in gym class in school over the years and really enjoyed it. Handball is always a highlight for me when the summer Olympics roll around.

You should give the Euros or WC a chance, it really is awesome.

I am only part Danish - I learned to watch it as a kid because of my Danish family, and instantly took a liking to it.

If you have the stamina, give one of the finals I posted a little look.

 

[Eisen]

You should give the Euros or WC a chance, it really is awesome.

I am only part Danish - I learned to watch it as a kid because of my Danish family, and instantly took a liking to it.

If you have the stamina, give one of the finals I posted a little look.

I recommend this game

 

[JackSlater]

You should give the Euros or WC a chance, it really is awesome.

I am only part Danish - I learned to watch it as a kid because of my Danish family, and instantly took a liking to it.

If you have the stamina, give one of the finals I posted a little look.

Nice, I will take a look at some of those tonight if the Olympic coverage doesn't appeal to me. I'd like to find a spot to get to play a little but in a Canadian location with a population of around ~70,000 that's unlikely.

 

[Eisen]

Nice, I will take a look at some of those tonight if the Olympic coverage doesn't appeal to me. I'd like to find a spot to get to play a little but in a Canadian location with a population of around ~70,000 that's unlikely.

Too bad. It's a lotta fun.

 

[Eisen]

Germany now with the same problem they had for a year. They have a good defense, good goalie, good coach but nobody can score.

Edit: and as I wrote that, the defense looks like amateurs.^^

 

[Eisen]

I'm positively surprised that they seem to whistle too many steps with the ball. Often you have the impression that you can travel half the court with the ball in hand.

 

[Eye of Ra]

There is a case for Hampus and Ekberg competing with them for sure.

But Uwe hans some insane jump in him, and Dika is just an amazing young player.

But, I can see why some would prefer the two Swedes.

But to be fair, I never said they were better, I wrote I could list more player.

Ekberg for sure is world class, not sure if I put Hampus in that category tho.

last 2 seasons, wanne has been pure world class

 

[QuietContrarian]

last 2 seasons, wanne has been pure world class

Never considered Hampus world class - But, you probably watch him more.

Gottfridsson tho, maybe I would consider him.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Never considered Hampus world class - But, you probably watch him more.

Gottfridsson tho, maybe I would consider him.

Gottfridsson is very good. But i think there is 4-5 better players than him.

If we look at young players, carlsbogård is a good one. I see alot of Kim Andersson in him.

Btw Ålborg had a fantastic season and added some really good players. Will be intresting to follow them the upcoming season.

 

[QuietContrarian]

Gottfridsson is very good. But i think there is 4-5 better players than him.

If we look at young players, carlsbogård is a good one. I see alot of Kim Andersson in him.

Btw Ålborg had a fantastic season and added some really good players. Will be intresting to follow them the upcoming season.

For sure - Not super up to date on younger Swedes, but ima keep an eye out for them when they play Denmark.

Yeah Aalborg are gonna be insane next season

 

[alko]

Still surprised, why isnt USA Handball between the top. The are in Volleyball and even with no real profi-league.