Post-Game Talk: Habs lose 4-1, needs more line combos

[Hoople]

And Max has 7 goals in 6 games without DD...

Remember when people claimed that DD is our best offensive center, remember when people said Pacioretty can't produce without DD, remember when a 30k posts member claimed Pacioretty is a normal 20 goals player without DD.

Good times..

Dont ignore the other arguments that were made.

Chucky was doing well on Pleks' wing and the biggest problem facing the Habs offensively was scoring from the wings.

Since Chucky moved to C, his scoring has slowed tremendously (save for the hat trick game).

Its a double edged sword. This team needs better wingers. Pulling Chucky from the wing has not helped the Habs overall. Yes, it is important for Chucky to learn from his mistakes and develop but.....and this is a big but.......the Habs are in the mix of a playoff fight and there is no reason to throw this season away.

DD should go back to center.....but centering Weise and PAP. The top 6 should be Pleks and Eller at C with Max, Sekac, Galchenyuk and Gallagher at wing in whatever combination will work.

At least until Bergevin is able to acquire a Top 6 wing via trade or at the deadline.

 

[Lebowski]

Dont ignore the other arguments that were made.

Chucky was doing well on Pleks' wing and the biggest problem facing the Habs offensively was scoring from the wings.

Since Chucky moved to C, his scoring has slowed tremendously (save for the hat trick game).

Its a double edged sword. This team needs better wingers. Pulling Chucky from the wing has not helped the Habs overall. Yes, it is important for Chucky to learn from his mistakes and develop but.....and this is a big but.......the Habs are in the mix of a playoff fight and there is no reason to throw this season away.

DD should go back to center.....but centering Weise and PAP. The top 6 should be Pleks and Eller at C with Max, Sekac, Galchenyuk and Gallagher at wing in whatever combination will work.

At least until Bergevin is able to acquire a Top 6 wing via trade or at the deadline.

The Habs went 9-1 after switching Galchenyuk to center and he was almost at a PPG clip over that period.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Dont ignore the other arguments that were made.

Chucky was doing well on Pleks' wing and the biggest problem facing the Habs offensively was scoring from the wings.

Since Chucky moved to C, his scoring has slowed tremendously (save for the hat trick game).

Its a double edged sword. This team needs better wingers. Pulling Chucky from the wing has not helped the Habs overall. Yes, it is important for Chucky to learn from his mistakes and develop but.....and this is a big but.......the Habs are in the mix of a playoff fight and there is no reason to throw this season away.

DD should go back to center.....but centering Weise and PAP. The top 6 should be Pleks and Eller at C with Max, Sekac, Galchenyuk and Gallagher at wing in whatever combination will work.

At least until Bergevin is able to acquire a Top 6 wing via trade or at the deadline.

The guy has produced at a 58 point pace (10 points in 14 games) since moving over and there were games where his possession numbers were absolutely sick. I don't see how Galchenyuk can be said to have struggled.

He's not a point per game player yet (maybe he never will be) but he was producing just fine in that role esp when you factor in that he's only 20. Also, I don't know why you cherrypick the hat-trick game and tell us not to factor that in... doesn't make sense to do this. He played incredibly well against Vancouver for example but didn't put up any points... sometimes you get the breaks and sometimes you don't. No reason to try to factor out productive games when looking at how a player is doing.

 

[Odelein24]

Dont ignore the other arguments that were made.

Chucky was doing well on Pleks' wing and the biggest problem facing the Habs offensively was scoring from the wings.

Since Chucky moved to C, his scoring has slowed tremendously (save for the hat trick game).

Its a double edged sword. This team needs better wingers. Pulling Chucky from the wing has not helped the Habs overall. Yes, it is important for Chucky to learn from his mistakes and develop but.....and this is a big but.......the Habs are in the mix of a playoff fight and there is no reason to throw this season away.

DD should go back to center.....but centering Weise and PAP. The top 6 should be Pleks and Eller at C with Max, Sekac, Galchenyuk and Gallagher at wing in whatever combination will work.

At least until Bergevin is able to acquire a Top 6 wing via trade or at the deadline.

Pacioretty Plekanec Gallagher
Galchenyuk Eller Sekac
Weise Desharnais Parenteau

Prust Malhotra Bournival

That top 9 has a lot of potential. Switch Gallagher and Sekac for a different flavour. I'm not for moving Chuck back to wing, but this line up looks a lot better than anything MT has come up with.

 

[SirClintonPortis]

Pacioretty Plekanec Gallagher
Galchenyuk Eller Sekac
Weise Desharnais Parenteau

Prust Malhotra Bournival

That top 9 has a lot of potential. Switch Gallagher and Sekac for a different flavour. I'm not for moving Chuck back to wing, but this line up looks a lot better than anything MT has come up with.

Yep, this lineup would make too much sense. After all, Eller meshed with Galchenyuk during the lockout-shortened season and he's proven he and Sekac are an impact duo as well. Plus they're all pretty big. #Toomuchsize

 

[SirClintonPortis]

The Habs went 9-1 after switching Galchenyuk to center and he was almost at a PPG clip over that period.

Funny how people argue against DA RECORD when trying to justify Therrien switching Galchenyuk back to wing.

 

[dutchy29]

He changes the lines pretty much every game so who knows what he's going to do. He already put DD back at center it's just a matter of time before Patches is back with him.

Its not just the offense you have to worry about when lines are constantly juggled, the team gives up something defensively when players are constantly trying to get used to new line mates. MT has a habit of fixing things (or the players do) when we seem a bit listless or down and out, the problem is when things start clicking he decides to switch things up for no reason.

 

[Nynja*]

Funny how people argue against DA RECORD when trying to justify Therrien switching Galchenyuk back to wing.

BUT DA RECORD is only usable in the pro-therrien agenda.

 

[Hoople]

Pacioretty Plekanec Gallagher
Galchenyuk Eller Sekac
Weise Desharnais Parenteau

Prust Malhotra Bournival

That top 9 has a lot of potential. Switch Gallagher and Sekac for a different flavour. I'm not for moving Chuck back to wing, but this line up looks a lot better than anything MT has come up with.

This is EXACTLY what I would like to see. We have the top line which is clicking very well right now.

We then reunite Eller with Sekac who had very good chemistry. Add to that Chucky who plays well with Eller. Two very solid top lines.

DD can stay with Parenteau in limited minutes. Weise, Prust and Bournival can be alternated depending upon a coin flip or whatever Therrien would decide.

Split the ice time evenly between the 3rd and 4th line since a line with DD and PAP would not be that strong defensively.

I really hope the Habs give this combination a try.

 

[Kimota]

Starting to think I would put Eller on the wings sort of a reverse Chucky move. He has no vision but his strength and feistiness could be useful there to go get the puck in the dirty areas. Sort of like a Nick Foligno.

 

[Kimota]

Hasn't everybody been screaming for some physical forwards for the top nine? We have exactly two physical forwards on the roster, Weise and Prust. So If you want physical forwards in the top nine by default these are going to be your guys. Neither one of them play the power-play so obviously Therrien doesn't think they are offensive solutions. They are there to provide some size and grit for lines that have none.

Hell forget even Weise and Prust this year. Weise has been less penalized than Max Pac and Prust has stopped hitting completely. He's a con man living on his past reputation. People underrate how his physicality in the past inspired the team to play that hard. The Habs of this year would get destroyed in 4 by the Rangers and Bruins of the last year's playoffs.

 

[GeoStride87]

Hell forget even Weise and Prust this year. Weise has been less penalized than Max Pac and Prust has stopped hitting completely. He's a con man living on his past reputation. People underrate how his physicality in the past inspired the team to play that hard. The Habs of this year would get destroyed in 4 by the Rangers and Bruins of the last year's playoffs.

not just weise, but prust and subban who can both hit haven't been hitting lately. I mentioned in another threat that perhaps it could be direction from the coaching staff to play more disciplined? Odd that players would take a big element of their style out of their game.