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Post-Game Talk: Habs blow 2 goal lead again lose 5-2 to Rags
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HespelerGreenFlash
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Not meant to be sarcastic. Just an observation on the logic . I may have read out of context. Apologies extended. Carry on. Cheers
didimentionlarseller
Snipers are a dying bread in the NHL
I don’t disagree I just think there’s easily 15-20 top lines in the league even more elite than ours.
MasterD
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Reading you guys, I am baffled. If Tatar-Danault-Gallagher is an Elite hockey line, hockey has become a pathetic and boring sport.
MSSLYNX
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Other site dailyfaceoff has that line as 17th best line 1 with Danault dragging the line with his 40th ranking as C
Patccmoi
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Lol, they're not elite. They're an average 1st line, actually above average at ES (mostly because of solid defensive play while also putting up points), but below average on the PP so ends up producing less points overall. They're not nearly as bad of a 1st line as some make it out to be, but the "elite" part was just sarcasm. And we ABSOLUTELY need some elite PP talent to put up points.
didimentionlarseller
Snipers are a dying bread in the NHL
They can play the real problem is all the top 9-12 talent following up after and the defence
Wow I actually put them in the correct ranking pretty much. They’re right about middle of the pack for a top line
I need to watch all these hockey sites more I found a great redraft website and it was reallllllly depressing to see who we could have gotten
lo striver
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It is nearly impossible to come up with a sentnence that has words "elite" and "canadiens" in it, but people are still trying....
didimentionlarseller
Snipers are a dying bread in the NHL
Honestly Danault is the main reason it’s not more elite dude doesn’t score goals
MSSLYNX
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Wsh, Pit, Tor, TB, Veg have 2 lines more "elite".
Bos, Car, Colo, Edm, Fla, Wpg, Nyr, Stl, Cal, Ph, NYI has a better line 1
Bos, Car, Colo, Edm, Fla, Wpg, Nyr, Stl, Cal, Ph, NYI has a better line 1
Patccmoi
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Danault's issue is PP. Compared to nearly all other 1st line C, he does not produce on the PP (and thus lacks goals). He's filling the role fine at ES (obviously not elite, but he produces enough). But he doesn't pad up his stats on the PP (he also doesn't play a lot there, but it's with good reason, he shouldn't).
The thing is, it's not an issue in itself. It could totally work to have Danault as 1st line C at ES with another more offensive C racking up points on the PP. The problem is we DO NOT have another C racking up points on the PP. Suzuki actually started doing it though. If we can have him take that role, then we could even be successful with Danault keeping the role of 1st line C at 5v5 playing against the other team's top lines, because it actually works. His ES production is good enough, and his wingers ES production is good.
But if Suzuki is good enough at ES (and I think he can be), then he can fully take on 1C role, and Danault can have more defensive winger and fill the role of #2/3C getting sent against other team's top line as often as possible and spending extra time on the PK.
Lafleurs Guy
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Ozmodiar
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opinion. you've got nothing to support this.
he did put up 72 points with average wingers! lol Shaw, Drouin, Lehkonen. That's pretty average.
Meanwhile Danault has topped out at 53 points with the best wingers, and you'd be okay with 6M even though he might land on the 3rd line? Imagine Danault's production on the 3rd line. His point totals would likely dip to the 30's. 6M.
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the thing is, if you get rid of aging players with big contracts, you get prospects, draft picks, and cap space. I get that NYC is an attractive destination, but you gotta have the room to add.
The habs could have sold Petry and Tatar, loading up on prospects and picks, then went to market with the cap savings.
Patccmoi
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Hopefully something between 4.5-5.5M/year for 5-7 years (the longer the least imo). I don't mind if it's slightly overpaid for a player you know will fill his role. Much better than overpaying for meh UFAs like Alzner. Imo a good 2/3C is worth 5M.
thats reasonable for me. too much term but you can deal with it later. i think it would be a mistake to pay more than 6-7 mil
Guess we’ll see what happens this summer.....it’s IMPOSSIBLE that we go with the same core and expect different results.
If one or both were not traded at the deadline, it’s gotta be at the draft.....I just pray that it’s one of them, or Drouin, too many of the same type players.
Hey!!....CBJ are probably gonna trade Anderson in the off season, that would be a start, just anything, throw us a bone Bergy, we’re f***ing hungry for something
He’s #1 by default, he’s about to be dethroned by either Suzuki, KK or whoever we possibly bring in.
Patccmoi
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Obviously it's an opinion. What anyone says here about anything in the future is an opinion. But thanks for pointing it out.
Well Drouin was in theory our best offensive winger. He's just highly inconsistent.
6M is definitely overpaid, and hopefully we get him lower. But I'd rather overpay for players that are good at their role than overpay for players that aren't or that are easily replaceable. You might think what Danault brings is easily replaceable. I don't. And I don't actually think his production would actually drop that much considering how he gets his points, but it would probably be more in the 40-50 range. But yes, it is an opinion.
i have a feeling he'll be the #1 as long as he's here... in montreal, defense is more important than scoring goals.
