Confirmed with Link: Habs Acquire Rights to Joel Edmundson from Carolina for a 2020 5th Round Pick (Pick #139)

[Ezpz]

I've changed my stance on this trade.

 

[Kimota]

He obviously wants to sign him. He wouldn't make the deal if he didn't.

But I don't trust him.

 

[Adam Michaels]

But I don't trust him.

I don't know about term. But I'm expecting the AAV to be around the $4M mark.

 

[crazyd74]

I don't know about term. But I'm expecting the AAV to be around the $4M mark.

Same as Chiarot, no more, no less.

 

[Adam Michaels]

La combativité de Marc Bergevin annonce un automne intéressant

Martic Leclerc writes about the Edmundson acquisition and of his belief that this off-season will be a very interesting one for Bergevin.

In this part, he says that among 45 defensenen who played an average of 2:20 or more on the PK, Edmundson was 6th in least goals against (55). He mentioned other D who also played 2:20 or more on the PK like Giordano, Provorov, and Josi, who had more goals against.

He then mentions that out of the 121 defensemen that have played at least 180 games over the last 3 seasons, Edmundson is 33rd in turnovers/60 mins. He is 24th in blocked shots (5.3/60 mins). And he's 20th in hits (5.53/60 mins).

He also says in the article that Edmundson's agent also represents Chiarot, Brook, Juulsen, and Fleury. So he is an agent that has a familiarity with him.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Same as Chiarot, no more, no less.

Expect a little more than Chiarot.

If he gets the exact same deal as him, then it will be a great deal.

 

[montreal]

ideally you'd want something like,

xxxx Weber
Chia Petry
Edmundson Romanov
Kulak Juulsen


that way Romanov could hopefully focus on his offensive game more. If Edmundson needs a game off move Romanov over and put Juulsen in. The problem is you don't know where his game is at since he's only played 1 game. But you don't want to lose him for nothing.

Instead of spending gobs of money on Hall, I wonder what they could get for a Danault/Domi, Mete, say a 2nd round pick or more trade in term of a top LD PP QB. Since they badly need a PP QB or this team won't do shit imo. Then sign a UFA like Dadonov or Hoffman.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

ideally you'd want something like,

xxxx Weber
Chia Petry
Edmundson Romanov
Kulak Juulsen


that way Romanov could hopefully focus on his offensive game more. If Edmundson needs a game off move Romanov over and put Juulsen in. The problem is you don't know where his game is at since he's only played 1 game. But you don't want to lose him for nothing.

Instead of spending gobs of money on Hall, I wonder what they could get for a Danault/Domi, Mete, say a 2nd round pick or more trade in term of a top LD PP QB. Since they badly need a PP QB or this team won't do shit imo. Then sign a UFA like Dadonov or Hoffman.

Forget Hoffman in montreal with the bullshit that happened

 

[Le Tricolore]

ideally you'd want something like,

xxxx Weber
Chia Petry
Edmundson Romanov
Kulak Juulsen


that way Romanov could hopefully focus on his offensive game more. If Edmundson needs a game off move Romanov over and put Juulsen in. The problem is you don't know where his game is at since he's only played 1 game. But you don't want to lose him for nothing.

Instead of spending gobs of money on Hall, I wonder what they could get for a Danault/Domi, Mete, say a 2nd round pick or more trade in term of a top LD PP QB. Since they badly need a PP QB or this team won't do shit imo. Then sign a UFA like Dadonov or Hoffman.

Does Romanov play on the right? I know he shoots left, so I just assumed he mainly played on that side too.

 

[The Real Timo]

Everyone is forgettinga about Fleury. Am I the only one who thinks he got shafted in the numbers game? I really liked him.

 

[montreal]

Does Romanov play on the right? I know he shoots left, so I just assumed he mainly played on that side too.

he almost always plays RD in the KHL. Most of our LD prospects play at RD last year.

Everyone is forgettinga about Fleury. Am I the only one who thinks he got shafted in the numbers game? I really liked him.

He had 1 pt in 41 games, he likely needs more time in Laval to work on his defensive game, reads.

 

[26Mats]

In the past as with Gainey acquiring Hossa’s rights from Wings it was conditional son the player signing- the fact the pick us no longer conditional leads me to believe there a level of confidence that he’ll re-up

I agree most times players sign. But I do remember times where other teams traded picks for a player and they refused to sign. I forget which teams and which players.

I'll tell you though, I'd trade another 5th rounder for Hall's negotiation rights even if I had no idea whether he'd sign with us or not.

 

[The Real Timo]

La combativité de Marc Bergevin annonce un automne intéressant

Martic Leclerc writes about the Edmundson acquisition and of his belief that this off-season will be a very interesting one for Bergevin.

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In this part, he says that among 45 defensenen who played an average of 2:20 or more on the PK, Edmundson was 6th in least goals against (55). He mentioned other D who also played 2:20 or more on the PK like Giordano, Provorov, and Josi, who had more goals against.

He then mentions that out of the 121 defensemen that have played at least 180 games over the last 3 seasons, Edmundson is 33rd in turnovers/60 mins. He is 24th in blocked shots (5.3/60 mins). And he's 20th in hits (5.53/60 mins).

He also says in the article that Edmundson's agent also represents Chiarot, Brook, Juulsen, and Fleury. So he is an agent that has a familiarity with him.

It's the first sentence that gives me fright... Bergevin already had some interesting summers... aka Karl Alzner summer... i would rather he didn't again.

 

[1909]

Does Romanov play on the right? I know he shoots left, so I just assumed he mainly played on that side too.

He played often on the right side like most lhd shooter do in Russia.

 

[Tighthead]

He played often on the right side like most lhd shooter do in Russia.

Do the Russians like to have D play their opposite side? I hated playing the wrong side as a youth and we certainly weren’t expected to pinch like they do today.

 

[Adam Michaels]

It's the first sentence that gives me fright... Bergevin already had some interesting summers... aka Karl Alzner summer... i would rather he didn't again.

That same summer where Radulov and Markov left. Easily his worst off-season. He also traded for Schlemko that off-season. Remember, the defense improved?

 

[JianYang]

That same summer where Radulov and Markov left. Easily his worst off-season.

For sure. That might be the worst offseason of all time in habs history, actually.

Not only for what you listed, but it also included Alzner as the marquee signing.

Then you include the streit, and Hemsky signings into the equation, neither of whom made it through October if I remember correctly.

What a disaster.

 

[Tighthead]

For sure. That might be the worst offseason of all time in habs history, actually.

Not only for what you listed, but it also included Alzner as the marquee signing.

Then you include the streit, and Hemsky signings into the equation, neither of whom made it through October if I remember correctly.

What a disaster.

Was that the year that people kept saying “no way we take this cap space into the season/new year/playoffs lol”

 

[JianYang]

Was that the year that people kept saying “no way we take this cap space into the season/new year/playoffs lol”

Yeah I think that was the birth year for the unfilled cap space now that you mention it.

There was some ufa buzz for Joe Thornton who was in Montreal at the time for some reason. I think habs went after bonino and Justin Williams as well, but that unfilled cap space remains a legacy from that offseason.

 

[Schwang]

I didn’t say all defensemen should be offensively productive, so I’ll skip countering this weak strawman argument.

if you can’t see a difference between Weber, chiarot and the D I mentioned, then there’s no point in discussing. Not going to waste my time explaining things to you.

Pretty condescending aren’t you? For the record, I understand what you’re trying to say, but I also wonder just how you think the Habs aquire this number one, smooth skating top defenceman? You’re real smart, so please call Bergy and let him know. It’s not everyday a guy like Hedman, Makar, Hughes comes around. So what do you suggest?

 

[Tyson]

Everyone is forgettinga about Fleury. Am I the only one who thinks he got shafted in the numbers game? I really liked him.

He showed me alot in 41 games last season. He will make his place.

 

[le_sean]

Everyone is forgettinga about Fleury. Am I the only one who thinks he got shafted in the numbers game? I really liked him.

I think he needs to go to the AHL and refine his game a bit, specifically offensively. I don’t think he’s earned an automatic spot, he should have to fight for it.

 

[Tighthead]

Pretty condescending aren’t you? For the record, I understand what you’re trying to say, but I also wonder just how you think the Habs aquire this number one, smooth skating top defenceman? You’re real smart, so please call Bergy and let him know. It’s not everyday a guy like Hedman, Makar, Hughes comes around. So what do you suggest?

If one of us had warned him about Sergachev would he have listened?

 

[Runner77]

If one of us had warned him about Sergachev would he have listened?

You would have had to throw in a pair of unflattering sandals, a book about the benefits of skipping leg days and an exclusive tat design from an underground artist that money can't buy.

 

[Gyfu]

I really don’t like the message it would send to Chiarot. Edmundston is not better than you, the fact is that you will play more minutes, but let’s give him 1M$ more per and 3 more years.

I also have a hard time seeing Edmundston sign for 3.5M$ per but I don’t see how we can offer more.

It is a fair point but tbh really don't think players look at it that way (if anything be mad at your agent, he's the one that's supposed to know players "value"), the cap moves, rosters change consistently, there's a lot of teams with lesser players making much more money than better players, in the end I'm pretty sure they're happy when they put their signature on a contract and not worrying about other players/teammates situation... I might be wrong and your point is valid, it's just the way i see it