Guess Sweeney's next move thread

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MAYBE IT ISN'T OSHIE OR SHATTENKIRK...

Blues have been trying to sign Tarasenko, but I've read they're very, very, far apart.

Perhaps it isn't Oshie or Shattenkirk; the latter is far too valuable to the Blues.

Maybe St. Louis is looking to move Tarasenko before an offer sheet arrives? :laugh:

I'll give them a 1st, a 2nd, a 3rd, AND a 4th.
 

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I'm not at liberty to name names. My girlfriend gets so upset that I don't even tell her. But she understands I have to show respect to whom the information came from, but it still pisses her off. Her famous words "I thought couples shared everything!!"

That said, my info comes from the Blues front office "high enough up" who tells me they had talks into early evening.

I didn't follow the Sweeney presser, but I hear it was delayed? Someone can clear that up. Not saying this had anything to do with it but is it possible?

Understood, Dom.

How about we name some names, and you post :handclap: for "yes" and :rant: for "no".

I kid. :D
 

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I'm not at liberty to name names. My girlfriend gets so upset that I don't even tell her. But she understands I have to show respect to whom the information came from, but it still pisses her off. Her famous words "I thought couples shared everything!!"

That said, my info comes from the Blues front office "high enough up" who tells me they had talks into early evening.

I didn't follow the Sweeney presser, but I hear it was delayed? Someone can clear that up. Not saying this had anything to do with it but is it possible?
My only suggestion.

If you marry your GF you better sign a prenup.
 

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If we somehow landed Tarasenko I would lose it.

What if we traded for Jaden Schwartz? If they are going to sign Tarasenko to a beastly contract they might not have enough to sign Jaden as an RFA next year. Would add some scoring.
 

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If we somehow landed Tarasenko I would lose it.

What if we traded for Jaden Schwartz? If they are going to sign Tarasenko to a beastly contract they might not have enough to sign Jaden as an RFA next year. Would add some scoring.

If we could get Schwartz that would also be awesome, but his cap hit is too small for their immediate needs. They need to move a bigger contract to sign Tarasenko.
 

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Doubt it's Oshie. Seems very lateral.
Doubt it's Tarasenko. Donny wouldn't do all these moves to get in cap/roster hell again.

My bet it's Shattenkirk or Bouwmeester.
Loui would look great on Steen's wing. Shats would likely cost him, solid prospect and that SJS1 too.
Just my opinion.
 

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If we somehow landed Tarasenko I would lose it.

What if we traded for Jaden Schwartz? If they are going to sign Tarasenko to a beastly contract they might not have enough to sign Jaden as an RFA next year. Would add some scoring.

Be prepared for Schwartz to want a 6m+ a year contract that he will likely deserve.
 

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Doubt it's Oshie. Seems very lateral.
Doubt it's Tarasenko. Donny wouldn't do all these moves to get in cap/roster hell again.

My bet it's Shattenkirk or Bouwmeester.
Loui would look great on Steen's wing. Shats would likely cost him, solid prospect and that SJS1 too.
Just my opinion.

Can't afford to trade Eriksson at this point without another top 6 forward coming back.

Hoping for Shattenkirk, there's no doubt. But I can't see it happening.

Bouwmeester at some reduced salary for futures?
 

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Doubt it's Oshie. Seems very lateral.
Doubt it's Tarasenko. Donny wouldn't do all these moves to get in cap/roster hell again.

My bet it's Shattenkirk or Bouwmeester.
Loui would look great on Steen's wing. Shats would likely cost him, solid prospect and that SJS1 too.
Just my opinion.

Do you do that for Shats? Tough call.

Bouwmeester = Eeeewmeester

Is Del Zotto still around?
 

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wouldnt be surprised if krug was on the move. he makes a lot already for a sheltered PP specialist and he'll be looking for a raise after the season.
 

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"JR was just on the radio and when asked about a deal packaging a name forward with Shattenkirk, he hesitated and said he was being asked a question that was forcing him to say more then he wanted to. He finally said that there was talk of a blockbuster deal that could be bigger than people are imagining. Did say it didn't involve Tarasenko."

Blues fans are saying that he is a very trusted reporter, so it has to be Shattenkirk, exatcly what Boston needs and it would a unexpected, Oshie trade wouldn't be and it wouldn't be blockbuster.
 

Mr. Make-Believe

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Do you do that for Shats? Tough call.

Bouwmeester = Eeeewmeester

Is Del Zotto still around?

I'm not the biggest Bouwmeester fan either, but damn if his skillset isn't precisely what we're looking for. Big, with great wheels and can carry/move the puck. Only thing is, he shoots left (although I believe he plays either side).

Maybe Kevan Miller, a first, a second and Alex Khokhlachev for Shattenkirk? Gives them someone who can play his side of the ice for cheap, good future down the middle and whatever financial flexibility they need to get Tarasenko under contract long-term.
 

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I'm not the biggest Bouwmeester fan either, but damn if his skillset isn't precisely what we're looking for. Big, with great wheels and can carry/move the puck. Only thing is, he shoots left (although I believe he plays either side).

Maybe Kevan Miller, a first, a second and Alex Khokhlachev for Shattenkirk?

Sign me up
 

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Based on Sweeney's favorable experience breaking in as Ray Bourque's D partner, then watching Bourque break in Kyle McLaren and later Hal Gill, and most-recently Chara breaking in Dougie, coupled with Zach Trotman's development this past season in Providence (and his one-way, cheap deal for 15-16), I will be real surprised if Trotman does not skate right side with Chara.

Krug and McQuaid have been such a solid pair that I expect the only dynamic scenario is on second pairing, where Dennis Seidenberg skated last season with mostly Matt Bartkowski, a little with Joe Morrow and some with McQuaid. Add Colin Miller to this mix, a 22-yo PMD who established himself as a power skater and big shooter (won the lap and set a 105 mph mark with slapshot in AHL All-Star skills), just won the Calder Cup with Manchester ... he and Morrow (who is at the same career stage) are in the most-direct battle of camp for a spot on the NHL roster. A recovered Kevan Miller can play a hard-nosed third-pairing game with Krug if McQuaid has to kick up.
But, while Seidenberg is the only left shot regularly deployed to the right side and Krug can cross over in a pinch (Morrow also did it in the AHL but not without some hiccups), none of the right shooters have established themselves as either-side players, and Julien is pretty strict systems-wise on this one thing: the rights play on the right and the lefts play on the left.
We can't pretend it's 1990 and expect that some right shots would be slid to the other side or vice versa. Julien's list of switch hitters is short. Mark Stuart and Andrew Ference did it when the body count demanded it, but Seidenberg is the only lingering player that Julien deploys like he has Patrice Bergeron at center (ie. doesn't matter who he plays with or on what line because he is implicitly trusted with the role and the assignment). Now whether those days are behind Seids in his first full season post-surgery is something yet to unfold. If Don Sweeney has an opinion on the matter to the negative, then that would be the motivating factor in any roster changes to the defense.
He gives every indication that Trotman, Morrow and Colin Miller are ready to continue their development in the NHL, and all the signs point toward Trotman at least getting an audition to pair with Z (as did Hamilton in the pattern alluded to in prior era including Sweeney's).

Chara-L ... Trotman-R

EITHER: Morrow-L ... Seidenberg-L
OR: Seidenberg-L ... C. Miller-R

47 Krug-L ... 54 McQuaid-R

7th: K. Miller-R

Krug, a great competitor who understandably aspires to a top-four role (presumably as Seidenberg's left-sider but it could actually run opposite with them), always gets his minutes via power play. But I don't expect the Bruins to operate with a great luxury of experiment deploying him against top-six forwards on a regular, 5-on-5 basis. It's not about toughness or even size -- Krug holds his own in the containment game -- it's his stubby legs and vulnerability to transition attack (ie. lack of raw, open-ice speed). It's a part of his game that improved last season, but I don't think he's marginalized it to the point that the better players won't burn him. He's agile like few but that's a lingering ceiling on his career.

Mick, so what is the skinny on Miller? and I have seen Trotman a gazillion times but I never thought Boychuk would make it let alone make it with a style somewhat different from Providence.

You like Trotman? Miller? We talked Morrow before

also, Providence a complete overhaul with most of Cassidy's favs gone- Florek, Flick, Lindbald- Spooner and Pasta promoted.

You think Sweeney moves on from Butch. He was a Chia guy not Sweeney.

Sweeney has shown in one week he will make moves. Does he stay with Cassidy knowing Don is in control now? Cassidy to me would be a very good NHL assistant coach with D men
 

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I'm not the biggest Bouwmeester fan either, but damn if his skillset isn't precisely what we're looking for. Big, with great wheels and can carry/move the puck. Only thing is, he shoots left (although I believe he plays either side).

Maybe Kevan Miller, a first, a second and Alex Khokhlachev for Shattenkirk? Gives them someone who can play his side of the ice for cheap, good future down the middle and whatever financial flexibility they need to get Tarasenko under contract long-term.

I'd do that in a heartbeat. Shattenkirk is a very underappreciated player. He'd be a HUGE boost.
 

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Can't afford to trade Eriksson at this point without another top 6 forward coming back.

Hoping for Shattenkirk, there's no doubt. But I can't see it happening.

Bouwmeester at some reduced salary for futures?

I would argue we can't afford to pass up any opportunity to get a top pairing d-man like Shattenkirk. I'd expose multiple holes on the wing to fill the gaping one on D.
 

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#stlblues have told Shattenkirk camp he isn't going anywhere
 

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I'm not the biggest Bouwmeester fan either, but damn if his skillset isn't precisely what we're looking for. Big, with great wheels and can carry/move the puck. Only thing is, he shoots left (although I believe he plays either side).

Maybe Kevan Miller, a first, a second and Alex Khokhlachev for Shattenkirk? Gives them someone who can play his side of the ice for cheap, good future down the middle and whatever financial flexibility they need to get Tarasenko under contract long-term.

If it's our first, not SJ's, then that's a fair deal.
 

Mr. Make-Believe

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Sign me up

I'd do that in a heartbeat. Shattenkirk is a very underappreciated player. He'd be a HUGE boost.

Chara - Shattenkirk
Seidenberg - C. Miller
Krug - McQuaid
Morrow - Trotman

Every pair playing about 18-22 minutes a night. No 25+ guys eating up their energy for the course of the season. All capable of moving the puck, skating and providing some offense from the blueline.

This is of course assuming that the Blues require that financial flexibility. Which I'm not entirely sure they do.
 

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I would argue we can't afford to pass up any opportunity to get a top pairing d-man like Shattenkirk. I'd expose multiple holes on the wing to fill the gaping one on D.

I agree... much easier to find a 2nd line winger than a #2 dman. Especially if theres a better chance than not that Loui is gone next year.
 

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"JR was just on the radio and when asked about a deal packaging a name forward with Shattenkirk, he hesitated and said he was being asked a question that was forcing him to say more then he wanted to. He finally said that there was talk of a blockbuster deal that could be bigger than people are imagining. Did say it didn't involve Tarasenko."

Blues fans are saying that he is a very trusted reporter, so it has to be Shattenkirk, exatcly what Boston needs and it would a unexpected, Oshie trade wouldn't be and it wouldn't be blockbuster.
I read somewhere (Twitter?) that the "blockbuster" deal would be a 5 player deal between the Blues and Flyers likely involving Oshie and possibly Simmonds.

I also read that the "blockbuster" may be contingent upon the Blues making another deal prior to completing the trade with the Flyers.

All conjecture at this point.
 

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