This is what I hate about nowadays NHL! Perfectly clean hit, and there has to be a fight! NO, just NO!
If it is a dirty or questionable hit, absolutely stand up for your teammate, but not when it is a perfectly acceptable hit. We already see so few of these nice clean hits anymore, and we didn't use to see clean hits basically every time lead to a fight!
Early hits or hits without the puck are so disgusting. Don’t understand why there’s never punishment. I’d rather get hit high with the puck then hit not expecting it.
You can't be serious? I would agree if the hit was fine - but it WASN'T!!
Let's get one thing straight. As a lifelong Oiler fan I despise the Flames and cheered their loss. I could care less how nice of a guy Hammer is.
But... the facts.
G hit the new rookie on his first NHL shift. Malicious? Perhaps not, but those saying it was a clean hit just don't get it. You cannot or should never get penalized for a clean hit. Interference is not a clean hit.
G gets a 2min minor as he should. To make G pay for his infraction, Calgary should have scored on the PP. They failed. And 6 more times after.
G gets out of box and H gets noble and challenges him. Acceptable response to me. Unfortunate H got injured as he's not in Gs fight class.
Calgary should have had someone less important approach him.
NP with anything at all that transpired. But in no way was Gs hit on the rookie legal.
The check was clean, the play was not, as someone said earlier.
Yes and he shouldn't have been penalized for a "dirty" hit, except for maybe interference. Interference is not dirty! Aiming for his head, aiming from behind, going too low or low bridge are dirty, what Gudbranson did, was not dirty, there is a massive difference. 2 minute penalty for interference because puck was not there is not a dirty play, it is a normal play that happens a whole bunch of times a game.
I'll concede you have a point and my opinion has changed. This is actually a good discussion.
Interfence is illegal not 'dirty' although it can be depending on circumstances, timing, etc. I agree it was not in thus case. A 2 minute penalty was correctly called IMO as the play was no more or less of an infraction than tripping or hooking.
Again - unfortunate results but normal play of events in the best sport in the world.
Oh great, hockey is back which means we need a thread for every single hit.
@Sojourn it is called keeping your head up, every hockey player learns this the second they start playing competitive contact hockey!
The guy is made of glass. He really needs to stop doing this kind of thing.Hamonic got smashed in that fight
Maybe not dirty, but still dangerous. Anytime you hit a player who can reasonably expect not to be hit you're putting someone in danger. One could also argue the semantics behind a hit being "dirty", since a clean hit is generally one that is within the rules, not purely whether the mechanics of the hit were clean.No headshot, no slew foot, no malice in the hit. The play itself was illegal, but it wasn't a dirty hit.
Maybe not dirty, but still dangerous. Anytime you hit a player who can reasonably expect not to be hit you're putting someone in danger. One could also argue the semantics behind a hit being "dirty", since a clean hit is generally one that is within the rules, not purely whether the mechanics of the hit were clean.
I think people are too hung up on clean and dirty. I think there is too much grey area for it to be either or.Sure it can, didn't target the head, just a clean solid body check. Only issue was that it was early.
I get what you mean though, I just don't think that qualifies as making it dirty.
I think people are too hung up on clean and dirty. I think there is too much grey area for it to be either or.
For me there is....
Clean - Within rules and unlikely to cause injury
Legal - Within rules but could hurt someone
Illegal - Not malicious, but not within the rules
Reckless - Not malicious, but dangerous.
Dirty - Malicious
It was a fraction of a second, it's not like he was intentionally targeted miles from the puck.Oh, bull****. He wasn’t eligible to be hit. Period. Calling this a perfectly clean hit, and chastising a player who wasn’t eligible to be hit is ridiculous. No player keeps their head up in all situations when they aren’t a legal target. You aren’t being realistic. If you were blindsided during a game without even having touched the puck, are you really going to sit there and tell me it’s your fault for not being aware another player was going to lay an illegal hit on you?
I say again, bull****. Hits like this are dangerous. If the player had been injured on this hit, we would be looking at a suspension. Without question.