Value of: Gudas/Simmonds package deal to Toronto

[justafan22]

What's the value here?

Both players would fit the leafs needs badly. Is a combination of Brown/1st/other prospects a fair deal?

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[Tarmore]

What's the value here?

Both players would fit the leafs needs badly. Is a combination of Brown/1st/other prospects a fair deal?

Why would Toronto give up a first?!?

 

[Swedish Gretzky]

What about?

Simmonds

For

Kapanen
Brown
1st round in 2019
3rd round pick in 2019

I think thats fair

 

[justafan22]

What about?

Simmonds

For

Kapanen
Brown
1st round in 2019
3rd round pick in 2019

Not a chance.

Take out kapanen and it's a maybe.

 

[Steeze]

Simmonds sure, but they could have just kept Polak if they wanted a Gudas.

 

[Swedish Gretzky]

Not a chance.

Take out kapanen and it's a maybe.

Heck no. Brown ?? Leafs walk away like bandits

 

[Volica]

Not a chance.

Take out kapanen and it's a maybe.

I shall maybe accept a deal in which I trade expendable parts for your 20 goal scorer with intangibles, of which I'm exactly looking for.

Flyers aren't going to give Simmonds away, rental or not, the guy can score and is a beast.

 

[justafan22]

I shall maybe accept a deal in which I trade expendable parts for your 20 goal scorer with intangibles, of which I'm exactly looking for.

Flyers aren't going to give Simmonds away, rental or not, the guy can score and is a beast.

ufa rentals don't get that type of value

 

[TorontoTrades]

Why would Toronto give up a first?!?

Late 1st to add grit and more depth?? I would be on board with. Leafs can afford to move the 1st for the first time in years to make the team more of a contender.


Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Kapanen - Matthews - Nylander
Marleau - Kadri - Simmonds
Johnsson - Lindholm - Ennis

Rielly - Hainsey
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Dermott - Gudas

 

[CapnZin]

ufa rentals don't get that type of value

Rick Nash, Martin Hanzal, Brendan Smith, Michael Grabner, Derick Brassard, Patrick Maroon- you should look up these UFA trades. These all happened in the past 2-3 years

Especially the Rich Nash deal and he retired at the end of the year.

Hanzal was an overpayment literally to add size to MIN 4th/3rd line.

Smith returned what you think anyone not on TOR is worth.

Brassard as a M6 C option returned a 2018 1st and 3rd, pospect (meh), and Ian Cole.

Patrick Maroon, much much much worse than Simmer, but same play style returned a 3rd and a meh prospect.

Y’all need to get off your high horse of our players only return gold.

Simmer has more value than all at this time than they had at their respective trade deals besides possibly Rick Nash and that’s a maybe.
Not saying the return is that, but I think everyone underestimates the market of rentals.

*Derick Brassard had 2 more years on his deal- pointed out by someone on here to me*

 

[ArchAngel55]

Late 1st to add grit and more depth?? I would be on board with. Leafs can afford to move the 1st for the first time in years to make the team more of a contender.


Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Kapanen - Matthews - Nylander
Marleau - Kadri - Simmonds
Johnsson - Lindholm - Ennis

Rielly - Hainsey
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Dermott - Gudas

The are also in win now mode before RFA contracts come up.

 

[LeafSteel]

What about?

Simmonds

For

Kapanen
Brown
1st round in 2019
3rd round pick in 2019

I think thats fair

What are you drinking man????

Please don’t operate a motor vehicle or post trade ideas until all of the after effects subside.....

 

[Swedish Gretzky]

What are you drinking man????

Please don’t operate a motor vehicle or post trade ideas until all of the after effects subside.....

Simmonds may very well be the deal that puts them over the top as a contender this year.

 

[Hunter368]

Simmonds & Gudas would be pretty expensive package to get both.

 

[LeafSteel]

Simmonds may very well be the deal that puts them over the top as a contender this year.

Fine, but the ask is ridiculous.

 

[Boxscore]

TO TOR
- Simmonds
- Gudas

TO PHI
- Kapanen
- Der-Arguchinstsev

 

[Toronto makebeleifs]

Simmonds sure, but they could have just kept Polak if they wanted a Gudas.

At this point I would put gudas ahead of polak, by a fair margin too. For the op, if Philly is out Simmonds will likely be rental price at the deadline ie. 1st+okay prospect or roster player with term, while gudas would be 2nd or 3rd+meh project prospect. So from a leafs perspective 1st+3rd+brown+korshkov+Gauthier. At the deadline of course; Philly can likely get a bit more if they sold off their assets individually though.

 

[Flukeshot]

Those 2 would really make sense for the Leafs.

I would push for Kapanen and whatever pick or prospect evens it out.

 

[Boxscore]

I'd hate to go up against the Leafs in a 7 game war with Simmonds and Gudas on that roster. The Leafs already have most teams beat in the coaching department and in the skill department. The addition of Simmonds and Gudas give them the sandpaper to get dirty with any team, including the Bruins.

 

[Drew311]

Wow Take our garbage for your player... and than get a maybe.
Typical Leaf proposal.

Man you need to get a life. For a person who hates the team, you spend way too much time worrying about what the Leafs are doing.

 

[Swedish Gretzky]

Wow Take our garbage for your player... and than get a maybe.
Typical Leaf proposal.

My initial proposal was this:

Simmonds

For

Kapanen
Brown
1st round in 2019
3rd round pick in 2019

Objections?

 

[Liferleafer]

Simmonds sure, but they could have just kept Polak if they wanted a Gudas.

People must not watch Gudas play. As a Leafs fan, would love to have him.

 

[Liferleafer]

My initial proposal was this:

Simmonds

For

Kapanen
Brown
1st round in 2019
3rd round pick in 2019

Objections?

Objections? Yes....many.

 

[TorontoTrades]

Kapanen has shown great promise this season. Not a chance hes dealt for a pure rental.

Brown + 1st + lesser prospects or picks is the most likely deal.

 

[Swedish Gretzky]

Objections? Yes....many.

Im asking Philly fans