Grigorenko Contract and RFA status
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In terms of production it's hard to argue against offering him something around the QO but I'm not sure how well the offer would be received. Obviously the organization mishandled him during his first year and a half or so. Other than one minor pout session he has decided to play hockey and not cause too much of a fuss. If they decide to offer him a two or three year deal is there a big difference between paying him the QO near 1 million or paying him 2ish million a season? When that contract expires he will get going rate for however he has been producing regardless of his prior contract. At that time if he hasn't produced then maybe there is bigger money waiting for him in the KHL, but that's a whole other can of worms. It seems like he's generally been a good soldier for the team and a low ball offer is only going to make him think harder about playing elsewhere. If we have all of the cap space in the world and we're not paying him 3+ million then just pay him a little less than he wants and move forward.
At this point in his contract you're paying for a mix of potential and proven results. As recently mentioned, if Foligno is being paid 1.875 then it's hard to see Grigorenko getting much less than that.
At this point in his contract you're paying for a mix of potential and proven results. As recently mentioned, if Foligno is being paid 1.875 then it's hard to see Grigorenko getting much less than that.
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Yeah, we paid Foligno on potential and that was a mistake. He should be making fourth line money, as he's really a fourth liner, anyway under $1mil.
I see a one year deal in the $1.5 range, "hey kid, you'll be up with the big team, lets see what you can do and o from there next year."
I see a one year deal in the $1.5 range, "hey kid, you'll be up with the big team, lets see what you can do and o from there next year."
CatsforReinhart
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Umm no he won't. because he spent most of his rookie season in the NHL when he was 18, he'll be a free agent at 25.
You can thank Regier for that crap.
Do you think anyone in the nhl will want him at age 25? He is producing at 4th line numbers-if that- but is not what any team would likely want on the 4th line. I am not ready to give up on him--because of his draft status and a few high light reels I have seen--but that is so yesterday....
dotcommunism
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No. Grigorenko will not be a UFA at 25. A player is eligible for Group 3 free agency when he's 27, or has 7 accrued seasons (on the NHL roster for 40 or more games). As of now Grigorenko only has 1 accrued season (for the lockout shortened season). Grigorenko could have 7 accrued seasons following the 2019-2020 season, at the earliest, which would make him eligible for UFA at age 26. However, if Grigorenko spends most of this season in the AHL, he will not gain an accrued season this year, which would make him eligible for UFA at the standard age of 27.
QO is all I would give...My only concern is him bolting to the KHL if he feels he won't get any playing time in Buffalo next season. In that case it would have been nice to have moved him for some type of asset rather than watch him walk for nothing.
Jim Bob
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It will be very interesting to see how Grigorenko and his agent handle their side and what Murray does.
I could see Murray holding a hardline and things getting ugly.
I could see Murray holding a hardline and things getting ugly.
CatsforReinhart
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Why? Grigorenko has no leverage. If he wants to run away to the KHL then so be it but other then that Grigs pretty much has no choice.
FearTheBeard
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How do you know how good he'll be in 5 years? 4th line numbers? Have you watched him at all in the A this year? He's been playing some really good hockey, and to speculate how many teams want him when he's 25 based on how he played with the big club 2 years ago is just ludicrous
TannedBum
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Some, exactly. Flashes here and there. That's not nearly enough. He is same player as last year.
Who says the KHL will pay? He'd get more for sure but not a huge payday.
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I read somewhere that Russia's ruble has dropped significantly recently. KHLers May be looking to nudge their way into NA now, seeing as much as a 35% drop in the value of their salary. Kovalchuck is almost banned from the NHL and Radulov seems to want to stay in his mother land but, there probably won't be a migration back to Russia any time soon. Gives us a bit more negotiating prowess.
Also, worse players have been signed for $2 mil per. It's really a drop in the bucket.
Also, worse players have been signed for $2 mil per. It's really a drop in the bucket.
CatsforReinhart
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lol, you haven't been following.
PS, nowhere in my post did I mention money. That was something you decided to add to my post. Thanks.
Jim Bob
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CatsforReinhart
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I would agree with you if that was really a possibility. How many RFA's have held out successfully and with minimal NHL experience? Is there even a precedent?
I am a realist, he will take his QO. Even Johansen caved on his demands. He scored 30.
Jim Bob
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A lot depends on the agent. Some agents are more realistic than others.
He SHOULD just take his QO and create more leverage for himself. But, only time will tell whether that is the route his agent takes.
For instance, do they try and get a one-way deal for next year?
Push Dr Tracksuit
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3yrs 4.5mil, I expect him to make the roster next season, a full season to get accustomed to the NHL, a year to produce some reasonable expectations, and a third season to repeat it before going into his next contract
2 years isn't enough time for me to have a good idea of how I'd want to proceed into his next contract
2 years isn't enough time for me to have a good idea of how I'd want to proceed into his next contract
