Confirmed with Link: Granlund (MIN) for Fiala(NSH)

[Death of Rats]

Isn't this extremely stupid? Why wouldn't you ask?

It's like paying 100 bucks for a pint, and not waiting around to receive the change.

 

[NHL1674]

Didn't browse through the whole thread, so this might have been brought up earlier.
"Fenton said he had been working on a Granlund deal for a while and discussed him with several teams. He did not ask the Predators to include a draft pick." Sarah McLellan, ST

Does he realize that he can consult with other members of his staff before making moves. I'd love to get their thoughts on the return.

 

[nickschultzfan]

I guess now we can stop talking about the Leddy-Barker trade.

 

[Arturia Pendragon]

I actually like this trade. Sorry but the core, as was, wasn’t getting it done.

Take Kunin, Greenway, Fiala, Donato, and Ek and put them with Kaprizov in a couple years. See what we have.

 

[FVM]

What the f***, Fenton. What the f***.

Mikael Granlund was the reason why I became a Wild fan in the first place. I have so many different feels right now. And none of them very pleasant.

 

[DANOZ28]

it took me a long time to appreciate granlund & his skill but now i felt he was part of the core that should not have been traded. we'll miss you mig!

 

[IceHockeyDude]

Why is Minnesota getting rid of all their best players?

 

[TaLoN]

I like Fiala and don't really care that they traded Granlund. BUT, that trade is short a 1st round draft pick and a another piece. at a minimum.

Exactly this, it's about getting raped of value.

 

[Aftershave]

Agreed, Finns are more than welcome here! I hope they stick around despite our moron GM having a not so great opinion of Finns apparently.

We do still have the Kaptain!

I'm (still) a Wild fan from Switzerland with Finnish roots. Theoretically I should feel neutral about a FIN-SWISS trade. I hate it. It makes no sense. Been reading the HF boards for some time now and never posted. I feel I need to share my sadness and anger. #FireFenton.

Only good news is Granny joins Rinne and Josi over there... Sure hope they destroy this team next Sunday.

That said I wish all the best to Fiala and hope he will end up being a serious scoring machine.

 

[MuckOG]

I guess now we can stop talking about the Leddy-Barker trade.

I disagree. It's true that Fenton didn't get full value for Granlund, but this is nothing like the Leddy-Barker deal. Barker was terrible. Fiala is a good young player.

The Nino-Rask deal would be more analogous to Leddy-Barker.

 

[TaLoN]

I'm (still) a Wild fan from Switzerland with Finnish roots. Theoretically I should feel neutral about a FIN-SWISS trade. I hate it. It makes no sense. Been reading the HF boards for some time now and never posted. I feel I need to share my sadness and anger. #FireFenton.

Only good news is Granny joins Rinne and Josi over there... Sure hope they destroy this team next Sunday.

That said I wish all the best to Fiala and hope he will end up being a serious scoring machine.

I can't root against the Wild, it's not in me to go that far... that said, I do wish Granlund well. When the Preds are in the playoffs and we aren't, I'll root for them then.

What's going to suck though, is watching Granlund destroy us repeatedly while playing for a division rival that we gift wrapped him to.

 

[MuckOG]

Why is Minnesota getting rid of all their best players?

"All"??? We can rightfully bitch about Granlund, but Coyle and Nino have been passengers for quite a while. Did anybody really think that group of players would ever get us out of the 1st round going forward?

 

[NotYou]

Didn't browse through the whole thread, so this might have been brought up earlier.
"Fenton said he had been working on a Granlund deal for a while and discussed him with several teams. He did not ask the Predators to include a draft pick." Sarah McLellan, ST

That's embarrasing

 

[MuckOG]

Didn't browse through the whole thread, so this might have been brought up earlier.
"Fenton said he had been working on a Granlund deal for a while and discussed him with several teams. He did not ask the Predators to include a draft pick." Sarah McLellan, ST

That's the part that bugs me. Clearly Fenton doesn't yet understand the art of negotiation. At the very least he should've gotten another draft pick, a higher round one would've been nice...but even a 3rd or 4th rounder can be a valuable chip at the draft if you want to wheel and deal.

 

[BullLund]

I figured that Granlund would be a Minnesota lifer. This feels like a radical move to shift Minnesota towards a re-building phase, rather than settling for being "average" with the core that they now had. A message being sent to the players and the fanbase, almost. But Granlund was young enough, I feel, to have been part of a new core, as well as the old. The kind of a guy you generally want to have around when building a young team, due to his ability to make other players better.

The GM obviously sees a lot in Fiala. Time will tell whether he was right or not.

The gameplay style of Fiala, must be what he hopes to build the "new" Minnesota Wild around. He wants a faster, younger team, rather than the group of crafty, skilled vets that they have had.

Granlund had a lot of tools, but he was never the fastest guy around, so that might be why he wasn't included in the GM's project of the future. A franchise that may not always be as dependably solid, but which will be more exciting, and thus more properly lives up to the "Wild" moniker.

 

[TZM]

I understand the need to get younger but value-wise this trade sucks just like the Coyle and Nino trades. These trades require Fenton to catch a couple of FAs in the summer. I don't believe in a core of Donato, Fiala, Staal, Spurgeon and Suter (+ even slower Koivu if not retired). Although, I do like that we have young depth now with moderate potential to build on so it's not a complete rebuild that usually takes forever. Not holding my breath to make it to the playoffs in the next couple of seasons, but that's OK.

Also a bit sad to see my age group shipped elsewhere

 

[123TripleDoge]

Sounds like Fenton has been after Fiala for a long time and Poile took advantage of that. Pretty pathetic to not ask for a pick. Stubborn old goat is what comes to mind with him right now.

 

[MoeTheHobo]

I guess this is the death knell for the Finnish bandwagon. Not sure if anyone is going to be too sad about it.

Huh? Sorry I was checking out the Jets, Preds and Hurricanes pages

 

[TaLoN]

Sounds like Fenton has been after Fiala for a long time and Poile took advantage of that. Pretty pathetic to not ask for a pick. Stubborn old goat is what comes to mind with him right now.

Fenton is like a typical hfboard fan when it comes to prospects apparently. He gets his guy in mind and attaches irrational level of value regardless of accomplishments or lack there of.

 

[57special]

Does he realize that he can consult with other members of his staff before making moves. I'd love to get their thoughts on the return.

Maybe he has surrounded himself with a bunch of yes men.

 

[gwh]

That's the part that bugs me. Clearly Fenton doesn't yet understand the art of negotiation. At the very least he should've gotten another draft pick, a higher round one would've been nice...but even a 3rd or 4th rounder can be a valuable chip at the draft if you want to wheel and deal.

Good thing he is 60yo this year. Truly a spring chicken, in the best stage for development.

 

[57special]

Wonder what Koivu is thinking.

 

[MuckOG]

I understand the need to get younger but value-wise this trade sucks just like the Coyle and Nino trades. These trades require Fenton to catch a couple of FAs in the summer. I don't believe in a core of Donato, Fiala, Staal, Spurgeon and Suter (+ even slower Koivu if not retired). Although, I do like that we have young depth now with moderate potential to build on so it's not a complete rebuild that usually takes forever. Not holding my breath to make it to the playoffs in the next couple of seasons, but that's OK.

Also a bit sad to see my age group shipped elsewhere

I thought we got decent value for Coyle......of course, I was never a huge fan of him to begin with. He was one of the biggest teases of a hockey player I've ever watched...Seemed to have all the tools, but always left wanting more out of him. I think Donato's ceiling is higher than Coyle's.

 

[gwh]

Wonder what Koivu is thinking.

I think Koivu got the idea when Fletch rushed his deal last year. I think that was return favor for not walking when Gabby left the team with nothing.

 

[gwh]

I thought we got decent value for Coyle......of course, I was never a huge fan of him to begin with. He was one of the biggest teases of a hockey player I've ever watched...Seemed to have all the tools, but always left wanting more out of him. I think Donato's ceiling is higher than Coyle's.

Donato is a mediocre AHL player, average 2way, 22yo, RFA in the summer and with 8% career shooting.

Nothing on this kid says he will make it. The best case is to hope Fenton gives him a short bridge if this bubble streak continues.