Grab Jake Dotchin as a free agent?

[Bluelines]

Not knowing much about him and going only on the scouting report below, sounds like he is a depth defender at best.

http://forecaster.ca/sportsnet/hockey/player.php?9336


SCOUTING REPORT

Assets:	Has great size for the blueline position, plus the physicality to go with it (he loves to punish opponents). Also produced good offensive numbers at the junior level. Is right-handed, which also adds value.
Flaws:	Needs to improve his defensive-zone coverage and become a steadier rearguard, in general. Must also avoid taking too many bad penalties that will hurt his team. Will not put up huge numbers in the NHL.
Career Potential:	Big, solid defenseman with a little upside.

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[ShaneFalco]

And he apparently came into camp out of shape

 

[Tak7]

It seems like the Leafs have a lot of Dmen on the bubble already:

If we accept that the following are making the lineup:

Rielly
Gardiner
Zaitsev
Hainsey
Dermott

Then that leaves a log-jam of depth D fighting out for the 6th and 7th D positions:

Carrick
Ozhiganov
Borgman
Holl
Marincin
Rosen

I'm sure I'm missing a name or two in that mix too.
Dotchin isn't better than the top 5, and he just about mixes in with the bottom group, so I'd say no.

 

[Bluelines]

Jake Dotchin cleared waivers Saturday, paving the way for the Lightning to terminate his contract for what it called a material breach.

Can a material breach be JUST conditioning?

Big Sexy says .. "Conditioning? I use it every morning in my hair..."

 

[al secord]

He seems like the type of player we're desperate for.

 

[Critical13]

He's an absolutely ass who almost injured Matthews and took our guy out in the AHL.

Absolutely no interest in him.



Neither arm went up, which is pretty typical.

 

[Walshy7]

nah

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[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I'm all for it, depth isn't a bad thing and if he's a Leaf he won't attempt to kill our stars

 

[taurine330]

And he apparently came into camp out of shape

Maybe there's some deeper issues there on why he came in out of shape.

 

[Menzinger]

 

[Voodoo Child]

I've been hearing 25% body fat.

My god...

To put it into perspective, if Jake Dotchin were a woman of average height, he would be slightly chubby with enormous breasts (women typically carrying 8-12% more body fat on average than men).

He played his last NHL game on March 17. I'm baffled at how one goes from presumably game shape (8-13%) to 25% body fat in six months.

Was this his summer workout plan?

 

[SprDaVE]

25% body fat for a pro athlete is unacceptable and he fully deserves to have his contract terminated.

 

[Walshy7]

25% body fat as a pro athlete is unacceptable and he fully deserves to have his contract terminated.

I cant workout at the moment, for about a year and im 25% with no working out. That is ludicrously bad for a pro athlete, its not only not working out in the offseason its eating and drinking shit every day of it

 

[Walshy7]

I've been hearing 25% body fat.

My god...

To out it into perspective, if Jake Dotchin were a woman, he would be a slightly chubby woman with enormous breasts (women typically carrying 8-12% more body fat on average than men).

He played his last NHL game on March 17. I'm baffled at how one goes from presumably game shape (8-13%) to 25% body fat in six months.

Was this his summer workout plan?

he must have been at the very high end of what % is considered acceptable by NHL teams, I don't know what that is but it cant be anywhere near even 20%. That is some packing on of weight in the summer like almost deliberately trying to get out shape to add THAT much (say 15% is the top end).

 

[Menzinger]

I've been hearing 25% body fat.

My god...

To put it into perspective, if Jake Dotchin were a woman of average height, he would be slightly chubby with enormous breasts (women typically carrying 8-12% more body fat on average than men).

He played his last NHL game on March 17. I'm baffled at how one goes from presumably game shape (8-13%) to 25% body fat in six months.

Was this his summer workout plan?

Beer and Doritos.

 

[Trapper]

Beer and Doritos.

The Big Buff bear eating diet.

 

[Bluelines]

If the chart below is accurate 25% is not all that fat.

If 25% is fat, what is this guys BF%?

 

[Menzinger]

If the chart below is accurate 25% is not all that fat.

If 25% is fat, what is this guys BF%?

Kessels issue is that he has a puffy face but really isn’t all that chubby elsewhere.

 

[thewave]

Dotch is a DBag and I want nothing to with him on this team.

 

[Voodoo Child]

If the chart below is accurate 25% is not all that fat.

If 25% is fat, what is this guys BF%?

25% isn't fat, it's average - slightly paunchy, which is fine for you and me, go out watch the game with the boys and drink a few, work out intermittently or inconsistently, stressing about money, don't always eat the best, probably sleep deprived etc.,

But I think not just hockey but the way sports has evolved like this is fascinating. It's a job just like anything else, an extremely good one, but a job.

You could have played at 25% in the 1970s, if you were good. In 2018 though its not an NHL summer.

 

[Menzinger]

25% isn't fat, it's average - slightly paunchy, which is fine for you and me, go out watch the game with the boys and drink a few, work out intermittently or inconsistently, stressing about money, don't always eat the best, probably sleep deprived etc.,

But I think not just hockey but the way sports has evolved like this is fascinating. It's a job just like anything else, an extremely good one, but a job.

You could have played at 25% in the 1970s, if you were good. In 2018 though its not an NHL summer.

Definitely, athletes the day or another breed compared to other one the past. But even still if your topline performer you can get up away at least a little bit with having weaker fitness, but in this case were talking about a 6/7D man, And it’s just unacceptable here

 

[Bluelines]

25% isn't fat, it's average - slightly paunchy, which is fine for you and me, go out watch the game with the boys and drink a few, work out intermittently or inconsistently, stressing about money, don't always eat the best, probably sleep deprived etc.,

But I think not just hockey but the way sports has evolved like this is fascinating. It's a job just like anything else, an extremely good one, but a job.

You could have played at 25% in the 1970s, if you were good. In 2018 though its not an NHL summer.

Makes sense but there has to be more to this than just a guy showing up out of shape. Like if Stamkos showed up 25% they wouldn't cut him, they would shame him and force him to get into game shape.

There has to be more to this story than just the poor conditioning. IMO the poor conditioning reasoning is just a smoke screen The poor condition "story" also allows the player to save face if the reasoning is more severe. IE Ryan Malone or Mike Richards, not saying Jake has the same issues those guys did but if the reasoning is more serious than just poor off season habits, it allows the Lightning to cut ties without humiliating the player and publicly "outing" him.

 

[bluumax]

If 25% is fat, what is this guys BF%?

Phil might well go down as the greatest hockey player ever to share the same BF% as gravy.

 

[Bluelines]

Kessels issue is that he has a puffy face but really isn’t all that chubby elsewhere.

His head alone is at least 30% BF ...

 

[Mr Hockey]

Coming to camp at around 25% means he did no offseason training, only gifted guys like fat phil can do that.