Recalled/Assigned: Goldobin Reassigned to Utica

[Bad Goalie]

I think the lack of center talent is a huge problem in this organization when it comes to developing Goldobin or future wingers (Dahlen, Lind, etc). There is only 2 wing spots left next to Horvat/Sedins (Boeser is a lock) and whoever doesn't play with them gets stuck next to blackholes like Sutter and Dowd. We badly need more distributors so that when we call up a winger from Utica they aren't put in a position to fail. You can't stick guys like Goldobin with plugs and expect them to produce.

When Hank retires the situation will only get worse unless Elias can stick at center.

There is zero help in the pipeline. The center situation in Utica is worse. There hasn't been a promising center prospect in Utica since they came to utica. Thta's five years. Right now it will bw Chaput once again as #1 and you know what you have with him. After that it's punt as far as future NHL center material. Gaudete is the first promising center to show on the horizon and he's yet to play a single pro game. A whole lot of posters talked up Molino after his short stint with the Canucks last spring. He has turned out to barely be AHL material.

Pettersson is a frail, very skilled prospect. No McSorley type to put on his wing to keep him from being run. That's if he in fact starts out in the middle. Wouldn't be surprised if he is on the wing to start. I won't be shocked if it turns out he's not physically mature enough to leave Sweden for another year yet. He didn't even make their Olympic team for that very reason. Benning better be very careful with this new toy. He's not had good luck with his top picks thus far when pushing them into the NHL. In fact he's not had much luck with his top picks period and that's waht makes me even more concerned that he is ready to shove Pettersson out there so he can say, "Look what I found." Hopefully that won't be his decision, but I'm not holding my breath.

The man has had five years of roster constructing, his top 2 were already here and Sutter is his only answer. Think about that. 5 years and no centers acquired worth a damn. That in itself should be enough to hand him his walking papers. It's not a shock that the young guys coming in don't put up any numbers when they all skate with non play makers.

 

[F A N]

There is zero help in the pipeline. The center situation in Utica is worse. There hasn't been a promising center prospect in Utica since they came to utica. Thta's five years. Right now it will bw Chaput once again as #1 and you know what you have with him. After that it's punt as far as future NHL center material. Gaudete is the first promising center to show on the horizon and he's yet to play a single pro game. A whole lot of posters talked up Molino after his short stint with the Canucks last spring. He has turned out to barely be AHL material.

Pettersson is a frail, very skilled prospect. No McSorley type to put on his wing to keep him from being run. That's if he in fact starts out in the middle. Wouldn't be surprised if he is on the wing to start. I won't be shocked if it turns out he's not physically mature enough to leave Sweden for another year yet. He didn't even make their Olympic team for that very reason. Benning better be very careful with this new toy. He's not had good luck with his top picks thus far when pushing them into the NHL. In fact he's not had much luck with his top picks period and that's waht makes me even more concerned that he is ready to shove Pettersson out there so he can say, "Look what I found." Hopefully that won't be his decision, but I'm not holding my breath.

The man has had five years of roster constructing, his top 2 were already here and Sutter is his only answer. Think about that. 5 years and no centers acquired worth a damn. That in itself should be enough to hand him his walking papers. It's not a shock that the young guys coming in don't put up any numbers when they all skate with non play makers.

I have no idea how many times I have to tell you that prospects don't normally reach AHL ability until 2 years after the draft and the good ones might not even end up in the NHL. You say 5 years when only 2 thus far is relevant (2014 and 2015 draft) for Utica prospects purposes.

With that said, I don't blame you. Your perception is skewed towards the Utica Comets. You have no recollection of the Canucks' poor history of drafting and player development. Prior to Benning, the only C prospect "worth a damn" was Horvat. Before that it was Gaunce. Before that it was Cody Hodgson and Schroeder. Before that it was Kesler if you don't count Patrick White. Before that it was Henrik. If Pettersson and Gaudette end up being quality NHL Cs, that's actually real good drafting as far as drafting Cs are concerned.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

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Pettersson is a frail, very skilled prospect. No McSorley type to put on his wing to keep him from being run. That's if he in fact starts out in the middle. Wouldn't be surprised if he is on the wing to start. I won't be shocked if it turns out he's not physically mature enough to leave Sweden for another year yet. He didn't even make their Olympic team for that very reason. .

Where did you hear the bolded?? Got a link?

 

[Horse McHindu]

There is zero help in the pipeline. The center situation in Utica is worse. There hasn't been a promising center prospect in Utica since they came to utica. Thta's five years. Right now it will bw Chaput once again as #1 and you know what you have with him. After that it's punt as far as future NHL center material. Gaudete is the first promising center to show on the horizon and he's yet to play a single pro game. A whole lot of posters talked up Molino after his short stint with the Canucks last spring. He has turned out to barely be AHL material.

Pettersson is a frail, very skilled prospect. No McSorley type to put on his wing to keep him from being run. That's if he in fact starts out in the middle. Wouldn't be surprised if he is on the wing to start. I won't be shocked if it turns out he's not physically mature enough to leave Sweden for another year yet. He didn't even make their Olympic team for that very reason. Benning better be very careful with this new toy. He's not had good luck with his top picks thus far when pushing them into the NHL. In fact he's not had much luck with his top picks period and that's waht makes me even more concerned that he is ready to shove Pettersson out there so he can say, "Look what I found." Hopefully that won't be his decision, but I'm not holding my breath.

The man has had five years of roster constructing, his top 2 were already here and Sutter is his only answer. Think about that. 5 years and no centers acquired worth a damn. That in itself should be enough to hand him his walking papers. It's not a shock that the young guys coming in don't put up any numbers when they all skate with non play makers.

5 years? It’s barely been 3.5 years.

I share my concerns with you with regards to Pettersson, but the kid will fill out.

I do agree with you that it won’t be a surprise if he starts out on the Wing. Hopefully, he will transition to center at some point. The Canucks really do need him to be Henrik’s heir apparent.

However - if he’s clearly performing better as a winger and begins to trend as such, then we’ll need to go back to the drawing board and find another pure center. Hopefully, it doesn’t come to that.

 

[Clinton Comets EHL]

5 years? It’s barely been 3.5 years.

I share my concerns with you with regards to Pettersson, but the kid will fill out.

I do agree with you that it won’t be a surprise if he starts out on the Wing. Hopefully, he will transition to center at some point. The Canucks really do need him to be Henrik’s heir apparent.

However - if he’s clearly performing better as a winger and begins to trend as such, then we’ll need to go back to the drawing board and find another pure center. Hopefully, it doesn’t come to that.

The Comets are over 1/2 way into their 5th season. There has not been 1 center developed here. Hope you're right about Pettersson but the thought of him starting on the wing just confirms how awful the Canucks are at developing players.

 

[Horse McHindu]

The Comets are over 1/2 way into their 5th season. There has not been 1 center developed here. Hope you're right about Pettersson but the thought of him starting on the wing just confirms how awful the Canucks are at developing players.

That sucks if that’s the case. I take it by your handle name that you are from Utica or follow the Conets very closely?

I think Gaudette will be a pleasant surprise for you guys.

I have a question for you - how come Cole Cassels was unable to take a leap in his game? I knew he’d always be offensively challenged but I had him pegged as being a superb defensive specialist that would be full of piss and vinegar. What happened to him?

 

[Per Sjoblom]

I can confirm that is what Swedish news reported when the coach was asked about Pettersson not making the Olympic team. He said: "He needs to gain some weight for his 5 on 5 play, we cannot bring a player who we will use for PP only". OTOH Swedish national coaches are not very bright, I believe Sweden would have won the final against Canada if they has switched coaches. To suggest that Nylander who was one of the worst Swedish players should be an MVP is ridiculous.

 

[Bad Goalie]

That sucks if that’s the case. I take it by your handle name that you are from Utica or follow the Conets very closely?

I think Gaudette will be a pleasant surprise for you guys.

I have a question for you - how come Cole Cassels was unable to take a leap in his game? I knew he’d always be offensively challenged but I had him pegged as being a superb defensive specialist that would be full of piss and vinegar. What happened to him?

"I think Gaudette will be a pleasant surprise for you guys."

Another one of these helpful predictions we have been getting for 5 years about how e will be getting this guy or that guy and they will finally provide something the Comets have been missing.

No offense to you whatsoever, but we take these positive vibes as what they are, wishful thinking.

Have you read the number of posts that place Gaudette as the #2 or 3 center next season depending upon where Pettersson is penciled in? I have seen projected lineups with Pettersson, Gaudette, Dahlen, Juolevi, Goldobin, Lind, Gadjovich, Brisebois, and Demko all penciled in on Vancouver's opening day roster. I've also seen many of the same names labeled for Utica.

We will be "pleasantly surprised" if Gaudette is even assigned here. We wait until the Comets roster is finalized to start assessing the team for that season.

 

[Bad Goalie]

I can confirm that is what Swedish news reported when the coach was asked about Pettersson not making the Olympic team. He said: "He needs to gain some weight for his 5 on 5 play, we cannot bring a player who we will use for PP only". OTOH Swedish national coaches are not very bright, I believe Sweden would have won the final against Canada if they has switched coaches. To suggest that Nylander who was one of the worst Swedish players should be an MVP is ridiculous.

Thank you for that. I didn't want to have to go searching back to find that info about Pettersson and the Olympics. I knew I read the actual info from the coach here somewhere.

 

[hellstick]

 

[Nucker101]

Give him an extended look, there’s not much to lose. He’s a high skilled player who can skate. Plus he’s waiver eligible next year

 

[ProstheticConscience]

He'll be parked on the bench or press box. Just watch.

 

[m9]

Play him. Play him on the PP. Play him with decent players.

The team needs to find out what Goldobin is the rest of the year. If he sucks, so be it.. but at least you know.

 

[Dab]

Sink or swim time...I think the management is afraid of the optics if and when another one of their acquisitions sinks.

 

[LordBacon]

Kids got magic hands, hopefully he stays up for good. Plus he cant ve worse than erikkson.

 

[VanJack]

Season is essentially done in VanCity.....no real excuse not to give him an extended look....should be viewing him on both the pp and the pk....same with Virtanen....what does it matter now?

 

[geebaan]

Season is essentially done in VanCity.....no real excuse not to give him an extended look....should be viewing him on both the pp and the pk....same with Virtanen....what does it matter now?

Winning culture or earning it or some other useless platitude

 

[Horse McHindu]

I agree that we need to find out what we have in Goldobin.

Goldobin seems to be in a place right now where he's too good for the AHL, but not quite good enough for Top 6 duty.

I think Goldobin needs to be given that Top 6 ice-time right now (in the NHL), so that he can possibly grow into that role. Baertschi was in a similar spot a few years ago and the Canucks took that leap of faith. I'd like to see them do the same with Goldobin.

Hopefully, Goldobin can improve/address the areas that the coaches wanted him to work on last time (i.e. compete level, battling for the puck, etc.).

 

[Cupless44]

I watched the end of the Montreal game,. The Habs have recently called up Nikita Scherbak, a player with a lot if similarities including draft position and tracking in the AHL since. I could not help but notice Montreal threw him out there in 3 on 3 overtime.

What are the chances of Green throwing out Goldobin in another write off season or Virtanen for that matter. Nope we get players like a Sutter and Granlund in OT. Even Dowd has been out there lol

 

[iceburg]

Green should lock Goldobin and Virtanen in a room to watch Archibald video for an hour a day for two weeks...
Of course both have way more talent than Archibald but what they lack Archibald has in spades.

 

[M2Beezy]

Green should lock Goldobin and Virtanen in a room to watch Archibald video for an hour a day for two weeks...
Of course both have way more talent than Archibald but what they lack Archibald has in spades.

I doubt the players union would be too happy with that even if it would be the BEST for their development

 

[iceburg]

I doubt the players union would be too happy with that even if it would be the BEST for their development

You're probably right. Maybe they should leave the door unlocked.

 

[BeardyCanuck03]

Green should lock Goldobin and Virtanen in a room to watch Archibald video for an hour a day for two weeks...
Of course both have way more talent than Archibald but what they lack Archibald has in spades.

Archibald isn't who I'd have Goldobin watch. He's too skilled. If he's to watch anyone it's Namestikov in Tampa. He's a very skilled player who has learned to be the puck retriever when playing with Kucherov/Stamkos. I'd also have him watch Brayden Point, that kid has a motor that never stops and is is always around the puck.

 

[iceburg]

Archibald isn't who I'd have Goldobin watch. He's too skilled. If he's to watch anyone it's Namestikov in Tampa. He's a very skilled player who has learned to be the puck retriever when playing with Kucherov/Stamkos. I'd also have him watch Brayden Point, that kid has a motor that never stops and is is always around the puck.

Fair enough. But you get the point.

 

[iceburg]

That poster literally has zero agenda or ulterior motives. He’s like a dog.

Yeah. And I have to admit a little entertaining.