Rumor: GMJR: Penguins will try to get younger this off-season, JR is "looking at everything"

[Sidney the Kidney]

Bjugstad + Marino + 1st round pick for Domi?

No

 

[Dangles78]

Bjugstad + Marino + 1st round pick for Domi?

lol wtf is this?

 

[Empoleon8771]

Bjugstad + Marino + 1st round pick for Domi?

Dear lord.

give me a break. sell me on how great letang is right now that habs should grab him instead of Petry. He's going to be 34. your reading comprehension is off. I never said letang was bad; he's great. He just doesn't fit into what habs are doing and doesn't move the needle enough over Petry at this point. and if you disagree, you aren't watching petry, nor paying attention to where bergevin wants to spend habs money

No, Letang's just a clearly better defenseman than Petry. Like there's nothing else to say. It's stupid to suggest otherwise.

You're saying you'd rather keep Petry because he has put up "comparable" numbers (which he hasn't) and is younger than Letang (by like 8 months). It's just nonsense.

 

[Toby Flenderson]

JR wants to get younger so here goes..

Kris Letang and Matt Murray for Adam Larsson, James Neal, 2020 and 2021 1st round picks

14th OA >> Murray
Larsson << Letang

Oil pay an extra 1st rounder to dump Neal. He has to be included though for salary cap. Pitt can either buy him out (1.9m cap hit penalty for the next 5 seasons) or roll with him to see if he can bounce back to form in Pitt.

The 2021 1st is especially interesting because Pitt does not have one. Pitt then picks back to back this year at 14th and 15th OA which goes a long way with our lack of talented prospects.

Oilers give up their next 2 1sts but get an upgrade on D, a much needed upgrade in goal, and they dump Neal.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Dear lord.



No, Letang's just a clearly better defenseman than Petry. Like there's nothing else to say. It's stupid to suggest otherwise.

You're saying you'd rather keep Petry because he has put up "comparable" numbers (which he hasn't) and is younger than Letang (by like 8 months). It's just nonsense.

yes habs would rather keep petry than invest 7+ million in
a soon to be 34 year old dman. so yes there are other things to say. and it doesn't have to become a pissing contest. i get it you love letang. he doesn't fit in with what habs are doing - which you might know if you followed anything they're doing. they haven't been trading for more vets (aside from 4th liners and throw-ins), they're debating which ones to keep as they get younger. to call others stupid because they don't agree with your opinion makes you exactly the type person you criticize on the main trade boards.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

yes habs would rather keep petry than invest 7+ million in
a soon to be 34 year old dman. so yes there are other things to say. and it doesn't have to become a pissing contest. to call others stupid because they don't agree with your opinion makes you exactly the type person you criticize on the main trade boards.

I just checked Letangs injury history...he has had 13 injuries(that only go up to 2017) which includes 3 concussions and 1 stroke back in 2014. He has only had ONE 82 game season in his career. Sure Letang may be a bit better and put up more points but I rather have the more reliable Petry thats actually going to be in games more.

 

[Dangles78]

yes habs would rather keep petry than invest 7+ million in
a soon to be 34 year old dman. so yes there are other things to say. and it doesn't have to become a pissing contest. i get it you love letang. he doesn't fit in with what habs are doing - which you might know if you followed anything they're doing. they haven't been trading for more vets (aside from 4th liners and throw-ins), they're debating which ones to keep as they get younger. to call others stupid because they don't agree with your opinion makes you exactly the type person you criticize on the main trade boards.

Regardless of your opinion of Letang, or the Letang vs Petry stuff, can we stop pretending that Letang is so much older than Petry...they are 7 months apart in age.

 

[Habs10025]

I just checked Letangs injury history...he has had 13 injuries(that only go up to 2017) which includes 3 concussions and 1 stroke back in 2014. He has only had ONE 82 game season in his career. Sure Letang may be a bit better and put up more points but I rather have the more reliable Petry thats actually going to be in games more.

Why would Pittsburgh trade Letang to Montreal ?
Why would Montreal trade for Letang ?

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

Regardless of your opinion of Letang, or the Letang vs Petry stuff, can we stop pretending that Letang is so much older than Petry...they are 7 months apart in age.

Age isn't the problem they are basically the same age its the injury history Letang has thats the problem again not saying Letang is bad but I rather have the Dman that slots in real nice behind Weber and can actually play 82 games a season.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

Why would Pittsburgh trade Letang to Montreal ?
Why would Montreal trade for Letang ?

Thats the thing we wouldn't trade for Letang he isn't a need when we have Petry.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Regardless of your opinion of Letang, or the Letang vs Petry stuff, can we stop pretending that Letang is so much older than Petry...they are 7 months apart in age.

this thread is making me tired. lets all stop pretending. letang is still not going to the habs. he's only 8 months older. you win

 

[HuGo Sham]

Thats the thing we wouldn't trade for Letang he isn't a need when we have Petry.

careful, you're sending this thread back into the vortex of repetition

 

[Habs10025]

Thats the thing we wouldn't trade for Letang he isn't a need when we have Petry.

Agreed Weber RD and Petry RD trading for Letang isn't a need .

 

[chethejet]

Pens need to find a way to move Murray, JJ, Horny even with a NTC. Pens need a size RW RH shot, who plays with some grit. Malkin is the one who is interesting and firing Serge may not sit well with him. Letang Dumo if healthy is still a really good pairing and buys another year for Marino to emerge as a top pairing D man.

 

[Richard88]

If you wouldn't do Newhook, you wouldn't get Rust. Timmins isn't good enough to be the centerpiece in a Rust trade.

I know that's a huge price to ask for in exchange for Rust, but Rust is literally coming off a PPG season and only makes $3.5 million. He's not being traded for parts like that, any trade that involves Rust has to be in the Mark Stone mold (1 huge asset and not much else) and not quantity for quality.

I was slammed with work today, how have the games been so far?

No GM in their right mind would trade a prospect like Newhook or Timmins for 2 years of a 28 year old player with a career high 38 points prior to this season.

Rust may have been PPG, but it was a shortened season and he was playing with one of the best C's in the league.

 

[Beauner]

Don't know much about Marino can he play the left side? whats his potential? is he a PMD or more of a stay at home defender? Only watched high lights of him so that doesn't really show much since they are high lights and only show the good.

Dont even worry about it

 

[Riptide]

The money coming in from Marner is offset basically down to the penny by the money leaving in Letang and Rust. Completely even swap. Has no effect on the money allotted for our raises/re-signings. None whatsoever. You’re right it’s simple math.

The penguins have very good trade chips with Murray and McCann. They can use those to either free up money or trade for a very good defenseman like Larsson from EDM.

Comparing the defense from 2017 to now is ridiculous. Only Letang and Dumo are still on the team from then. And even so, Letang is not a defensive specialist. His defensive numbers could be offset with a guy like Larsson for example, it’s his offensive production that would be missed.

No money will be "freed up" by trading players that still need to sign a contract. You're still left with ~13m - less if you're trading them for someone who's already signed - however you now have big holes to fill as opposed to minor ones.

 

[Jerkbait]

That's valid, but Domi himself only had 17 goals and 44 points last year, he's due for a pretty pricey extension (while Rust is locked in for 2 years at $3.5 million) and the Habs seem ready to move on with him. I don't think their value is that far apart. The Penguins probably need to add, but I don't think it would be that significant. Probably a decent prospect or something on par with that.

Rust is better than domi.......they will not be trading a 30 to 40 goal winger for domi for may get 20...

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

Rust is better than domi.......they will not be trading a 30 to 40 goal winger for domi for may get 20...

Yeah I am just going to disagree with everything you just said like honestly look up both players stats and age everything you have said is just....wrong...

 

[Samus44]

Rust is better than domi.......they will not be trading a 30 to 40 goal winger for domi for may get 20...

Lol. What. Did you just call a 28 year old Rust, a guy with 78 career goals, a 30-40 goal winger. lol. Yeah he had a good year playing next to an all world center but lets not get crazy here.

 

[Headshot77]

Just suggested this in the other thread...

Letang and Rust for Marner. Both teams need a shakeup and it fills needs for both clubs.

Makes Toronto better in the next 3 years before Tavares gets too old and/or Matthews leaves.

This would murder the Penguins. Not because the value is bad or anything, but the absolute last thing we need is a 10.9 million forward and a brand new gaping hole on our top defensive pairing.

Granted, the Kessel deal basically got us 2 cups. But there is a big difference between sending a plug, a 1st, and a decent forward prospect to a team and sending our #1 D to them.

 

[DearDiary]

Why would Pittsburgh trade Letang to Montreal ?
Why would Montreal trade for Letang ?

The answer to both questions is french bread

 

[Archijerej]

You rather have Petry over Letang?

Yikes... i'm out.

All things considered? Yes. Yes, I do.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

I think moving 2 of Jarry/Murray/DeSmith would be a starting point. Need more offense/defense.

 

[NewEraGM]

lol wtf is this?

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