Post-Game Talk: GM 43 | Sens def. Canucks - 6-3 (Myers, Virtanen, Sutter)

[Jack Burton]

Don't be so dramatic we'll win games.

Exactly!

Why is so body negative

The Tank Thread is right there..

 

[Peen]

You really have a chip on your shoulder, eh?

Appreciating the difference between the 2014-2017 era when our management team stepped on every rake within a 20 mile radius, and the period since when we have accrued Petey, Hughes, Miller, Schmidt, Hoglander, Rathbone, Podkolzin, Pearson (for Gudbranson) and seeing that there is a core and something to build hope around is not the same as 'accepting mediocrity'.

We are in a league of 31 (soon to be 32) teams. Yes, we spent 3 years there being truly awful and basically without direction. We now have a strong young core, and our window opens in earnest the year after next when we lose a lot of dead weight contracts.

No chip. I just give people the same energy they’re giving.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

I wonder if it has anything to do with relentless losing and managerial incompetence????????

I'm not asking fans to be as positive as they were in 2011 when we were winning President's trophies. I'm asking for a little bit of nuance. Maybe acknowledging that everything isn't awful and that there are reasons for hope.

Within that spectrum, you can still rant all you want about all of the awful contracts, etc.

But teenagers on this board think they are better hockey evaluators than Green and Benning combined. They frequently use post-hoc analysis and step away from their bad takes of the past, while drawing really uncharitable conclusions and then becoming irate about scenarios that they have made up in their head.

 

[4Twenty]

But drafting lol.

 

[PavelBure10]

I admit that I no longer watch every single game. I still love watching the Canucks, but I have 1/3 of an acre property, and young family to tend to. If the Vancouver Canuck organization wants to continue with the current management and roster "year after year", that is fine, but I will no longer make them a priority, until the necessary changes are made. I rather go out and enjoy the Okanagan sunshine, until this team decides to jump out of mediocrity.

Ottawa already has a way better future than us and they are only a few years into the rebuild.

Anyways I am glad that I missed this game.

Go Canucks...

 

[pgj98m3]

I'm not asking fans to be as positive as they were in 2011 when we were winning President's trophies. I'm asking for a little bit of nuance. Maybe acknowledging that everything isn't awful and that there are reasons for hope.

Within that spectrum, you can still rant all you want about all of the awful contracts, etc.

But teenagers on this board think they are better hockey evaluators than Green and Benning combined. They frequently use post-hoc analysis and step away from their bad takes of the past, while drawing really uncharitable conclusions and then becoming irate about scenarios that they have made up in their head.

Just look at the record.....Benning has been a dismal failure. There is no need for nuance.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

No chip. I just give people the same energy they’re giving.

Ah yes, the ol' "I lack personal accountability thing."

When I'm a jerk it isn't my fault. It's the fault of whoever upset me.

People really tend to grow and improve when they refuse to take personal accountability for the way they treat other people.

 

[sting101]

I'm usually not..but these are very unusual circumstances.

stay strong POM. It's a highly unusual set of circumstances right now. It will settle down and the group will be better for it

 

[Jack Burton]

Virtanen scored!




...that's another 2 years

 

[4Twenty]

Ah yes, the ol' "I lack personal accountability thing."

When I'm a jerk it isn't my fault. It's the fault of whoever upset me.

People really tend to grow and improve when they refuse to take personal accountability for the way they treat other people.

Not sure if you realize how “holier than thou” this post (the post not the poster) comes across.

 

[Peen]

Ah yes, the ol' "I lack personal accountability thing."

When I'm a jerk it isn't my fault. It's the fault of whoever upset me.

People really tend to grow and improve when they refuse to take personal accountability for the way they treat other people.

Coping hard as if you didn’t walk in here w moral superiority and implications that everyone here was inferior because of their beliefs on a hockey team

Good try mate

You totally weren’t the first poster. I started it. 150 IQ shining through again.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

stay strong POM. It's a highly unusual set of circumstances right now. It will settle down and the group will be better for it

To be honest, while it's difficult to watch, I would argue that our record from here on out is basically immaterial.

Our team is dealing with the after-effects of, and corresponding ridiculous schedule, of a once in a generation pandemic.

If we lose every game from here on out it will be frustrating, but it won't really move the needle for me in terms of my assessment of the team and its overall direction.

 

[Jack Burton]

stay strong POM. It's a highly unusual set of circumstances right now. It will settle down and the group will be better for it

Ya.

Support others.......we'll all be for it

 

[Peen]

Not sure how someone can come in acting superior and then play victim as if they didn’t initiate lmao

Someone’s hurt.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Not sure if you realize how “holier than thou” this post (the post not the poster) comes across.

He's sarcastically saying I'm obviously 150 IQ etc. I said it seems like he has a chip on his shoulder. He then says that it's my fault he responded that way. I don't think I was necessarily off base.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Not sure how someone can come in acting superior and then play victim as if they didn’t initiate lmao

Someone’s hurt.

This says it all. You're hoping that I'm offended and upset. It seems like you would be happier if my day was ruined by this. It's a negative energy.

I realize I'm upsetting the applecart of constant negativity by suggesting that maybe there's room for something other than doom and gloom on these boards, but constant, myopic, polarizing negativity gets tiresome.

 

[Peen]

This says it all. You're hoping that I'm offended and upset. It seems like you would be happier if my day was ruined by this. It's a negative energy.

I realize I'm upsetting the applecart of constant negativity by suggesting that maybe there's room for something other than doom and gloom on these boards, but constant, myopic, polarizing negativity gets tiresome.

Yup, that’s definitely it.

 

[4Twenty]

He's sarcastically saying I'm obviously 150 IQ etc. I said it seems like he has a chip on his shoulder. He then says that it's my fault he responded that way. I don't think I was necessarily off base.

Fair enough. I agree with him. You’re pulling the holier then thou card because your account is 20 years old. Then playing dumb why you think it got worse when the team got worse.

I think the board moderation contributes to the state of things here but I appreciate it’s harder than it seems like it should be.

 

[mossey3535]

So how many more Toffoli situations before we admit the front office is useless?

How many more seasons of getting caved in 5v5?

How many more seasons of not making the playoffs?

How many more seasons 0f finishing at the bottom of the league?

Yeah the record going forward is immaterial because there's plenty of evidence of incompetence and futility already amassed.

 

[Jack Burton]

Ooops my bad.

I was just really happy Ottawa won

 

[4Twenty]

Expecting rainbows and kisses when the team is a perennial loser just seems unrealistic. There is gloom for a reason.

keeping this regime together is a reason for doom.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Fair enough. I agree with him. You’re pulling the holier then thou card because your account is 20 years old. Then playing dumb why you think it got worse when the team got worse.

I think the board moderation contributes to the state of things here but I appreciate it’s harder than it seems like it should be.

I'm not playing dumb with respect to the morale here getting worse. It's all about proportionality though.

I have seen a plethora of posts that call anyone who dares defend a single move by the current regime a 'Benning Bro". I have also seen posts that equate "Benning Bros" with Trump supporters.

It's just a bunch of reductive, ad hominem stuff and it absolutely kills discussion unless it follows the party line to a T.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Yup, that’s definitely it.

k.

 

[4Twenty]

I'm not playing dumb with respect to the morale here getting worse. It's all about proportionality though.

I have seen a plethora of posts that call anyone who dares defend a single move by the current regime a 'Benning Bro". I have also seen posts that equate "Benning Bros" with Trump supporters.

It's just a bunch of reductive, ad hominem stuff and it absolutely kills discussion unless it follows the party line to a T.

I haven’t read those terms in months.

My impression is you only come here to complain and don’t provide anything you’re suggesting.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Shutting this down seeing as discussion about the game itself has dried up.

Closed.