GDT: GM 20 | Vancouver Canucks @ Calgary Flames | 7:00PM PST | SPAC

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

 

[I am toxic]

4-3 Canucks, all 4 goals by Roussell Pettersson Schmidty and Bo Horvat

Who are you?

 

[4Twenty]

opposing fans be killing Hughes. Hopefully he gets that +/- up. Seth Jones also seems to be off to a terrible start to the season

Seth Jones is 10gf 14ga at 5 on 5. For the minutes he plays that’s not a lot.

Hughes is 15gf 26ga at 5 on 5 in baby shit soft minutes.

 

[I am toxic]

Rightfully so. He’s a horrible defender. Maybe top 10 worst in the NHL. Fantastic at putting up points. Great guy to have in your hockey pool, terrible guy to have on the ice defending.
Too small, out of position, inability to eat pucks.

Pulling the 'ol Boeser reverse jynx? I like it Johnny, I like it. Keep it comin'.

Norris next year for Quinn.

 

[Royal Canuck]

Pulling the 'ol Boeser reverse jynx? I like it Johnny, I like it. Keep it comin'.

Norris next year for Quinn.

I mean, if Karlsson can do it...

 

[LordBacon]

Finally!

And it only took brown 2 seasons to figure it out

 

[geebaan]

Whats your point.?... before every season, every GM and coach in the league (in every sport) announces they want their team to improve..?..
You're not treading any new ground here.

so when nobody improves, should they not be held accountable for that? No consequences ever for anything?

 

[Johnny Canucker]

Pulling the 'ol Boeser reverse jynx? I like it Johnny, I like it. Keep it comin'.

Norris next year for Quinn.

hope so.l but highly doubt it. Minus players don’t win Norris trophies. QH has been a minus player everywhere he’s played.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

so when nobody improves, should they not be held accountable for that? No consequences ever for anything?

Of course they should be..Its a results based business, and thats why our GM is on the hot seat.
Anyway, back to the GDT.

 

[WTG]

hope so.l but highly doubt it. Minus players don’t win Norris trophies. QH has been a minus player everywhere he’s played.

Looking at +/- is a very bad way to evaluate a player. Let's instead look at his stats in his rookie year to this year and see if he's really that bad defensively.

Quinn Hughes 2019-20
CF% 52.6% (1st)
CF%Rel 6.41 (1st)
FF% 52.1% (1st)
FF%Rel 4.83 (1st)
SF% 50.95% (1st)
SF%Rel 4.71 (1st)
xGF% 52.85 (1st)
xGF%Rel 7.3 (1st)

Quinn Hughes 2020-21
CF% 47.58 (3rd)
CF%Rel 0.21 (4th)
FF% 47.11 (5th)
FF%Rel -2.01 (5th)
SF% 45.5 (7th)
SF%Rel -1.89 (4th)
xGF% 43.23 (7th)
xGF% -11.33 (6th)

So definitely something is up. It might have to do with Tyler Myers and Jordie Benn dragging him down. That's what I would put most of the blame towards. But the reality is he needs to be better defensively and he needs to get a better partner. Losing Tanev was absolutely huge. This guy was so underrated it's crazy.

 

[geebaan]

I say Canucks win a squeaker 2-1, Hogs with both, and Andersson gets his from a wrist shot from the point we deflect

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Dont care about the score. Just give me Hoglander goals.

 

[I am toxic]

Looking at +/- is a very bad way to evaluate a player. Let's instead look at his stats in his rookie year to this year and see if he's really that bad defensively.

Quinn Hughes 2019-20
CF% 52.6% (1st)
CF%Rel 6.41 (1st)
FF% 52.1% (1st)
FF%Rel 4.83 (1st)
SF% 50.95% (1st)
SF%Rel 4.71 (1st)
xGF% 52.85 (1st)
xGF%Rel 7.3 (1st)

Quinn Hughes 2020-21
CF% 47.58 (3rd)
CF%Rel 0.21 (4th)
FF% 47.11 (5th)
FF%Rel -2.01 (5th)
SF% 45.5 (7th)
SF%Rel -1.89 (4th)
xGF% 43.23 (7th)
xGF% -11.33 (6th)

So definitely something is up. It might have to do with Tyler Myers and Jordie Benn dragging him down. That's what I would put most of the blame towards. But the reality is he needs to be better defensively and he needs to get a better partner. Losing Tanev was absolutely huge. This guy <Tanev> was so underrated it's crazy.

Not.

By.

Me.

 

[VanillaCoke]

6-4 good guys

 

[CanucksSayEh]

+/- is way too volatile to pay any attention to over short sample sizes, even any whole season. Top players on losing teams are gonna take all the empty net goals against, all the risks to catch up.

Hughes has been great this series. Half second left in the PP on Pearsons goal, Bo drops to nobody, NS scores on himself. None of this changes how he played, yet leaves a negative stat. Sometimes the deck is just cold. He's looking wayy better than the start of the season, time for some others to join in..

 

[wonton15]

Any lineup news? Would love to see Hawryluk and his energy

 

[LordBacon]

Man rathbone really needs to play

 

[M2Beezy]

Half in hour to puck drop

 

[geebster]

Half in hour to puck drop

Isnt it 1.5 hours?

 

[M2Beezy]

Isnt it 1.5 hours?

In Calgary, there 1 hour difference with Vancouver time I believe

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Jayce Hawyrluk, who is ready to go? Any thoughts on this player?

The only thing I know about him, is that he was on the receiving end of this hit...Its a doozy.

 

[Hit the post]

Not.

By.

Me.

Yeah.
Eerily
Same

Idiots
Think

Wacky
Assumptions
Surreptitiously

 

[Johnny Canucker]

Looking at +/- is a very bad way to evaluate a player. Let's instead look at his stats in his rookie year to this year and see if he's really that bad defensively.

Quinn Hughes 2019-20
CF% 52.6% (1st)
CF%Rel 6.41 (1st)
FF% 52.1% (1st)
FF%Rel 4.83 (1st)
SF% 50.95% (1st)
SF%Rel 4.71 (1st)
xGF% 52.85 (1st)
xGF%Rel 7.3 (1st)

Quinn Hughes 2020-21
CF% 47.58 (3rd)
CF%Rel 0.21 (4th)
FF% 47.11 (5th)
FF%Rel -2.01 (5th)
SF% 45.5 (7th)
SF%Rel -1.89 (4th)
xGF% 43.23 (7th)
xGF% -11.33 (6th)

So definitely something is up. It might have to do with Tyler Myers and Jordie Benn dragging him down. That's what I would put most of the blame towards. But the reality is he needs to be better defensively and he needs to get a better partner. Losing Tanev was absolutely huge. This guy was so underrated it's crazy.

There’s a reason why the plus / minus stat still exists. Sure there are gonna be times he gets a minus that isn’t deserved .... and times he’s gonna just step on the ice and gets a plus. It all evens out. There’s a reason why certain players are career plus and others always minus. Different teams and different partners etc. He’s very bad at defending.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

The only thing I know about him, is that he was on the receiving end of this hit...Its a doozy.

Sleep well sweet prince.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

Man rathbone really needs to play

In the NHL? No.