GDT: GM 20 | Vancouver Canucks @ Calgary Flames | 7:00PM PST | SPAC

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Did you see the first goal last game? They were completely overwhelmed in their own zone for like a minute. Each of them, together with Myers and Juolevi, had a give away or lost a puck battle. And when Eriksson wasn't losing a puck battle he seemed to be wandering around out there. I know you don't judge a player based on their worst shift but man that was ulgy.

The bottom 6 , the top 6, the D....You can point fingers at all of them for ugly turnovers and giveaways..Our best players are still some of the worst offenders.

 

[Canuckle1970]

I guess Marky will always be in goal against us, forever and ever. LOL.

We need a ton of shots, hope for garbage goals, but please - don't give them any "gifts".

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

I guess Marky will always be in goal against us, forever and ever. LOL.

We need a ton of shots, hope for garbage goals, but please - don't give them any "gifts".

I think Marky is due for a stinker.?.lol..lets hope so.

 

[BC Ben]

Let’s go!

 

[WTG]

Bennett scores on the top line, and has gotten the boot to the 4th line ever since.

Decided to count how many points/caphit Canucks/Flames bottom 6 have. (only counting the current lineups without Motte because he's injured)

Flames bottom 6:
13 goals
0.18 goals/game
14 assists
.19 assists/game
27 pts 73 GP
.37pts/game
Cap Hit - 15.353
0.57 million per point


Canucks bottom 6:
10 goals
.11 goals/game
7 assists
.08 assists/game
17 pts/88 GP
.19 pts/game
Cap Hit - 19.58 mil
1.15 million per point

Canucks are paying 4.5 million more on their bottom 6 than Calgary but are paying double per point than the flames. That's how much Benning overpaid the bottom 6. That's why the Canucks are in cap hell. That's why "cap space doesn't matter for rebuilding teams" was bullshit. That's why Benning deserves to get fired.

 

[Fatass]

I think Marky is due for a stinker.?.lol..lets hope so.

Ya, it’s been more than two years. IM just hoping he doesn’t shut us out again.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Holtby starts for Vancouver, Green says “possibly” there could be other lineup changes.

 

[canuckking1]

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Blocker side


Canucks have made Markstroms job way too easy.

 

[Fatass]

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Blocker side


Canucks have made Markstroms job way too easy.

And make Marky move side to side. We need to create open ice across the (face off) dots, so the puck can go cross crease. Marky, like ever6 goalie, is far less effective if forced to move. In fact (IMO) Marky struggles keeping his angles when moving side to side.

 

[Fatass]

Holtby starts for Vancouver, Green says “possibly” there could be other lineup changes.

I thought I heard him say that new guy (Hyerluk?) might be able to play.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I thought I heard him say that new guy (Hyerluk?) might be able to play.

I think he’d be the logical choice to insert into the lineup. He should have lots of pep in his step in his first game.

 

[iceburg]

The bottom 6 , the top 6, the D....You can point fingers at all of them for ugly turnovers and giveaways..Our best players are still some of the worst offenders.

Agree. But if you make those types of mistakes and are an offensive black hole...

 

[canuckking1]

opposing fans be killing Hughes. Hopefully he gets that +/- up. Seth Jones also seems to be off to a terrible start to the season

 

[geebaan]

Precisely what it says, the continued growth of the young players, and an upward trajectory..What else would you expect them to say?

Definition of IMPROVE

 

[Johnny Canucker]

I guess Marky will always be in goal against us, forever and ever. LOL.

We need a ton of shots, hope for garbage goals, but please - don't give them any "gifts".

Report out of cal puck is that Marky asked to play every Canucks game. Savage.
Combined with bit acknowledging the “tribute”. Not even a nod, raising his stick....


says a ton about he he feels about the front office.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

opposing fans be killing Hughes. Hopefully he gets that +/- up. Seth Jones also seems to be off to a terrible start to the season

Rightfully so. He’s a horrible defender. Maybe top 10 worst in the NHL. Fantastic at putting up points. Great guy to have in your hockey pool, terrible guy to have on the ice defending.
Too small, out of position, inability to eat pucks.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

And make Marky move side to side. We need to create open ice across the (face off) dots, so the puck can go cross crease. Marky, like ever6 goalie, is far less effective if forced to move. In fact (IMO) Marky struggles keeping his angles when moving side to side.

JM25 is great but struggles with long range deflections more than an NHL goalie should. That’s where you’re gonna beat him. Ala TP70 goal last game.

 

[supercanuck]

opposing fans be killing Hughes. Hopefully he gets that +/- up. Seth Jones also seems to be off to a terrible start to the season

Dahlin also. Good, young defenseman playing on poor teams. There is one name on there that I am NOT surprised about though. LOL.

 

[NuxFan09]

Did you see the first goal last game? They were completely overwhelmed in their own zone for like a minute. Each of them, together with Myers and Juolevi, had a give away or lost a puck battle. And when Eriksson wasn't losing a puck battle he seemed to be wandering around out there. I know you don't judge a player based on their worst shift but man that was ulgy.

Hey I've got nothing against changes and getting other guys in. Was just offering a bit of justification for Virtanen and Eriksson.

 

[platotld]

I just copied the lineup from last game. Honestly, with both Jake and Loui getting under 7 minutes in ice time, I feel at least one of them is coming out - likely for Jayce Hawyrluk, who is ready to go.

Zack MacEwen just can't seem to buy a break.

Jayce Hawyrluk, who is ready to go? Any thoughts on this player?

 

[canuckking1]

Finally!

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Definition of IMPROVE

Whats your point.?... before every season, every GM and coach in the league (in every sport) announces they want their team to improve..?..
You're not treading any new ground here.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Finally!

Agreed, the deployment was becoming way too predictable.

 

[Royal Canuck]

opposing fans be killing Hughes. Hopefully he gets that +/- up. Seth Jones also seems to be off to a terrible start to the season

It's justified. He hasn't been good at all on that side of the puck. His teammates haven't helped much, but when you play 23-25 minutes a night, you have to be stronger in the corners and win some battles in your own end.

 

[Vector]

A big part of Hughes, and other undersized offensive defenceman, is that to be effective he needs a strong team system. Goalies making saves or directing rebounds to safe areas, defensive partners taking the harder match-up and dirty areas, and forwards buying in and getting pressure in the defensive zone. His role is to basically come out of the piles with the loose puck and create offense. When one part breaks down, you see some cracks but the good can paper over it. Unfortunately, the team doesn't have any of those qualities.

When Hughes has the puck, good things usually happen. The problem is there is nothing in place to ensure that he has the puck. The entire offense really should be geared towards get him control of the game.