Proposal: Georgiev to Toronto in Offseason

[Thordic]

This is Shestyorkins first year in NA. He is still probably minimum 2 years away from backing up at the NHL level.

He's 23 and playing great in the AHL. He's ready to be an NHL backup, right now, at the very least.

 

[Shootertooter]

honestly we might. Quinn doesn't seem to like him and he seems to be stagnating, a change of scenery might be good for him.

Didn't he post a shut out the other night?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Didn't he post a shut out the other night?

i'm talking about Lias Andersson

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

No there is no reason to do that, the Leafs entire core is signed and they will have about 16 million to apend and that's before the cap goes up, aand it will it always does.

If you factor in a 2 million dollar rise that's almost 18 million to spend.

They won't need to cut money and if they do need to it's Hyman he's the most replaceable piece

But that's with 10 players signed, including only one dman presently on the NHL roster.

$16-18M to sign at leat 11-12 players ?

Oh well, let's wait and see...

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

This leaves $13M available for 2 other dmen.

What about the 5-6 other players to be signed to have a 21-22-men roster ?

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Shesty 9 games taste this yr not burning yr on elc.

Wrong.

In fact, one year will be burned out of his ELC even if he doesn't play a game in the NHL.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Yeah, I’m guessing he meant to say Shesty will be exempt from the Seattle expansion draft.

I prefer not to guess...

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Why don't the Rangers just bury Shestyorkin in Hartford all year, run with Georgiev and Lundqvist at the NHL level for 2020-21, say goodbye to Lundqvist when his contract expires in July 2021, and then run with Georgiev and Shestyorkin in 2021-22?

Shestyorkin's contract has an European exit clause.

 

[bernmeister]

Wrong.

In fact, one year will be burned out of his ELC even if he doesn't play a game in the NHL.

Let's get @mouser or some other expert to give a ruling.
Whatever it is exactly, there is usually a benefit to not playing rookies 10 games minim b'c elc status slides a yr, or something like that.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Let's get @mouser or some other expert to give a ruling.
Whatever it is exactly, there is usually a benefit to not playing rookies 10 games minim b'c elc status slides a yr, or something like that.

If you're still of junior age...

And mouser already gave a ruling.

In case you missed it:

Yeah, I’m guessing he meant to say Shesty will be exempt from the Seattle expansion draft.

 

[bernmeister]

If you're still of junior age...

And mouser already gave a ruling.

thank you I missed it.
What did I overlook?
He is 23, dob 12/30/95
he doesn't hit 24 til end of the month, approx.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

thank you I missed it.
What did I overlook?
He is 23, dob 12/30/95
he doesn't hit 24 til end of the month, approx.

Again, he's not of junior age.

Burns a year off his ELC even if he stays in the minors for the whole season.

 

[mouser]

Let's get @mouser or some other expert to give a ruling.
Whatever it is exactly, there is usually a benefit to not playing rookies 10 games minim b'c elc status slides a yr, or something like that.

With Shesterkin at his age I don't see any contractual benefit to keeping him in the AHL. I'd assume it's just a matter of getting him playing time. Shesterkin has logged 790 AHL minutes so far compared to 585 for Georgiev backing up Lundqvist.

- ELC is not eligible to slide.
- He won't be expansion draft eligible even if he logs significant NHL games this season.
- He turns 24 this month so he'll be eligible for UFA at age 27 regardless of accrued NHL seasons.

 

[bernmeister]

Again, he's not of junior age.

Burns a year off his ELC even if he stays in the minors for the whole season.

I stand corrected.
Exclusively from contract standpoint, still is advantageous over Geo who will be rfa soon.
While now clear clock is ticking effective immediately on Shesty elcs, he at least is elc for 3 yrs.
So talent aside -- Shesty preferred -- Rangers better served dealing Geo on this basis alone.

With Shesterkin at his age I don't see any contractual benefit to keeping him in the AHL. I'd assume it's just a matter of getting him playing time. Shesterkin has logged 790 AHL minutes so far compared to 585 for Georgiev backing up Lundqvist.

- ELC is not eligible to slide.
- He won't be expansion draft eligible even if he logs significant NHL games this season.
- He turns 24 this month so he'll be eligible for UFA at age 27 regardless of accrued NHL seasons.

Thank you again for informed counsel.

The bold is a bummer.
You seem to be suggesting he bypasses rfa and goes direct to ufa eligible after his elcs, which means NY will have to have an understanding with him as to an extension properly timed with his final elc year.
But it is what it is.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Here's the thing. Georgiev is going to take over from Lundqvist in a couple of years. Maybe next year? Why would the Rangers trade away their future starter and make themselves weaker?

Shestyorkin.

 

[Habs Halifax]

What about the 5-6 other players to be signed to have a 21-22-men roster ?

Didn't you know? Leafs going to run with a 17 man roster next year. Who needs a 4th line? Dubas/Keefe got it all figured out cause hey, they won a Calder Cup.

All depends on what Muzzin gets to stay. Even at $5M AAV, it don't leave room for much more improvements. Best they can do is flip one of Nylander/Johnson/Kapanen and use that cap space to either get a RD in return for that trade or sign someone.

Everyone knows one of their top 9F cap hits needs to be swapped for RD cap space. My mistake, not everyone knows this

 

[TGWL]

I stand corrected.
Exclusively from contract standpoint, still is advantageous over Geo who will be rfa soon.
While now clear clock is ticking effective immediately on Shesty elcs, he at least is elc for 3 yrs.
So talent aside -- Shesty preferred -- Rangers better served dealing Geo on this basis alone.




Thank you again for informed counsel.

The bold is a bummer.
You seem to be suggesting he bypasses rfa and goes direct to ufa eligible after his elcs, which means NY will have to have an understanding with him as to an extension properly timed with his final elc year.
But it is what it is.

No, the poster wasn't suggesting that. He will be a RFA after this contract. He will be 25 when his contract ends. 2019-2020 & 2020-2021

 

[Calad]

Shestyorkin's contract has an European exit clause.

Next year, no clause this year.

 

[bernmeister]

No, the poster wasn't suggesting that. He will be a RFA after this contract. He will be 25 when his contract ends. 2019-2020 & 2020-2021

Okay
this is what I get for not checking CF
I stand corrected again.

per CF his elc runs thru next season, then rfa, but like @mouser said, once he hits certain age automatic ufa.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Thank you again for informed counsel.

The bold is a bummer.
You seem to be suggesting he bypasses rfa and goes direct to ufa eligible after his elcs, which means NY will have to have an understanding with him as to an extension properly timed with his final elc year.
But it is what it is.

If I remember correctly, June 30 is the date that determines a player age.

So he'll only be 25 at the end of his ELC, and thus have 2 years of RFA before hitting 27 and FA.

EDIT: That'll teach me sleep at night. TOWL beat me to it...