Prospect Info: General Prospect Discussion Thread 2019-20 - Part II

[Dr Jan Itor]

Boldy questionable for Team USA @ WJC. You can’t make this Minnesota luck up

It's a conclusion that anybody can come up with looking at his numbers, but he's going to be put on the wing in camp, and if people are right that his game is fine and he's just not scoring, then he should be fine.

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[thestonedkoala]

AJ Thelen's career completely fell apart in his d+1 year.

The truest bust in franchise history.

At least we got a 2nd round pick for not signing Thelen. We got Knight for Phillips and uh...nothing for Cuma. Also we got Zidlicky for Jones and a 2nd round pick and Bordeleau, although didn't play for Minnesota, had at least one decent season.

 

[TaLoN]

At least we got a 2nd round pick for not signing Thelen. We got Knight for Phillips and uh...nothing for Cuma. Also we got Zidlicky for Jones and a 2nd round pick and Bordeleau, although didn't play for Minnesota, had at least one decent season.

Phillips was raved about for years before flopping in the AHL, and still, we had Brodin to carry that draft.

Cuma was developing far better than anyone expected on draft day, just when everyone was getting excited and penciling him into lineups, he'd tear up a knee... after multiple knee injuries, he couldn't skate, and his entire game was based on his superb skating. Can't fault the guy for bad luck.

Thus, it still goes back to Thelen as the most forgettable 1st round pick that forced later picks to carry the draft in the fans minds.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Cuma was developing far better than anyone expected on draft day, just when everyone was getting excited and penciling him into lineups, he'd tear up a knee... after multiple knee injuries, he couldn't skate, and his entire game was based on his superb skating. Can't fault the guy for bad luck.

No, but he is pretty forgettable 1st round pick. Also Gillies LOL. I forgot we drafted him.

Thus, it still goes back to Thelen as the most forgettable 1st round pick that forced later picks to carry the draft in the fans minds.

I remember everyone wanted Thelen over Stafford. I wanted Stafford, but we had gone forward in the draft a bunch and so we needed defensemen. Also we moved up to grab Cuma. That was such an awful draft (4 picks) and only Scandella was able to salvage that draft. 2007 and 2008 is what killed the Wild.

 

[TaLoN]

No, but he is pretty forgettable 1st round pick. Also Gillies LOL. I forgot we drafted him.



I remember everyone wanted Thelen over Stafford. I wanted Stafford, but we had gone forward in the draft a bunch and so we needed defensemen. Also we moved up to grab Cuma. That was such an awful draft (4 picks) and only Scandella was able to salvage that draft. 2007 and 2008 is what killed the Wild.

Yet, back to the original point... only Thelen was so instantly forgettable as was the mentioned criteria. He was literally written off by fans his d+1 season.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Yet, back to the original point... only Thelen was so instantly forgettable as was the mentioned criteria. He was literally written off by fans his d+1 season.

I don't think it was his play, but the fact that there was some weird crap going down at MSU.

 

[AKL]

Yet, back to the original point... only Thelen was so instantly forgettable as was the mentioned criteria. He was literally written off by fans his d+1 season.

The original also included 2nd-7th rounders carrying the pool, not just 1st rounders putting up forgettable seasons.

 

[TaLoN]

I don't think it was his play, but the fact that there was some weird crap going down at MSU.

It was everything about him both on and off ice. His game vanished, then he became a cancer. His game was never seen again as quality at any level he played from then on.

The original also included 2nd-7th rounders carrying the pool, not just 1st rounders putting up forgettable seasons.

As I mentioned, and you did as well, Voloshenko was highly thought of for a time. He was originally expected to be a first round pick. People called him a steal on draft day and were genuinely excited about him for a while. He just never panned out.

 

[thestonedkoala]

It was everything about him both on and off ice. His game vanished, then he became a cancer. His game was never seen again as quality at any level he played from then on.

Was it ever reported what exactly happened?

 

[TaLoN]

Was it ever reported what exactly happened?

Nothing concrete that I'm aware of.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

We can only hope

 

[Engebretson]

Was it ever reported what exactly happened?

Allegedly, underage drinking and missing a VIP reception.

 

[AKL]

Allegedly, underage drinking and missing a VIP reception.

It sounds like the underlying cause is that he just didn’t care enough to take his career seriously.

 

[DANOZ28]

i remember i thought a 2nd rnd pick ondrej fiala was a draft day steal but he never panned out. i think he had broken his leg or probably would have been a 1st.Ondrej Fiala Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

 

[thestonedkoala]

It sounds like the underlying cause is that he just didn’t care enough to take his career seriously.

Color me shocked that a 19 year old was drinking and didn't take his career as seriously as he should.

 

[Engebretson]

Color me shocked that a 19 year old was drinking and didn't take his career as seriously as he should.

The drinking was allegedly enough that teammates had brought it up to their coach.

I'm not shocked either that college kids are acting like college kids, but I also can't blame the coach for acting accordingly if he felt it was becoming a problem for the team.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Boldy doesn’t strike me as the alcoholic type, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a little bit of a whiteclaw problem

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Boldy doubling his point totals already today on warrens goal:

 

[Sens]

After watching a little more of Sam Hentges, I think he has Joe Pavelski upside

 

[DeagleJenkins]

After watching a little more of Sam Hentges, I think he has Joe Pavelski upside

why do you say that? I don't catch any of college or nhl games thanks to dish so fill me in please!

 

[Sens]

why do you say that? I don't catch any of college or nhl games thanks to dish so fill me in please!

he dangles like Pavelski did in college... I remember Pavs having a bigger shot but other then that... the skating, the speed, the playmaking... all very similar

Oh and Hentges has produced in every game but one

 

[57special]

Pavelski was a late round pick, too.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

I mean Pavelski has scored 37 or more goals 4 times. If hentges gives us Haula production I’m elated

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

Firstov with a nice goal

 

[AJ Thelen]

Firstov with a nice goal

His 2nd wasn't bad either;


On top of that Khovanov had 2 more goals last night. (19 goals and 23 assist in 22 games, 6th in the QMJHL in points)
and
Beckman had 1 goal and 1 assist. (12 goals and 25 assist in 23 games, 4th in the WHL in points)