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Victor is 27. I'm not sure he has much more potential left in him.
He also has a 22 goal season under his belt at the NHL level.
Victor is 27. I'm not sure he has much more potential left in him.
Victor is 27. I'm not sure he has much more potential left in him.
Honestly, I think the type of player you're looking for is what the club already has in Forsberg, but he doesn't get the leeway to play that style because he's so young and Trotz has to "educate" him in the "Predator Way," because that's far more important than using a player's strengths to help you win hockey games.
For giggles, I keep a pace table on our players and the players in Milwaukee (because it's really not that difficult and a good way to kill a half-hour in the middle of the day). This is what our players' points per game rates look like when translated to goals and points over 82 games:
Obviously, AHL numbers won't translate fully to the NHL, but Forsberg sticks out like Charlie Sheen in a church with the Admirals (and is actually on pace to lead the team in scoring despite having played 22 fewer games than Beck). We have an open spot on the NHL roster right now, and I wonder if it isn't the plan to have Forsberg back up before the Olympic break.
When Forsberg got similar minutes in games with the Preds as on the Ads, what did he produce?
While with the Ads, how many goals allowed has be been on the ice for at ES? What is he getting done at ES in Milwaukee? What has he done ES with the Preds?
In games where Forsberg exceeded 15 minutes of TOI in Nashville, he had a goal and an assist. Two points in two games.
But that's the best part: a power play goal counts the same as an even-strength goal, and teams can be successful wherever they produce goals as long as they're producing goals consistently. Compare Pittsburgh (26% of their offense on the power play) and Anaheim (19%). Both generate their offense in different ways, and both lead their conferences. Nashville can be successful with a high proportion of its offense (27%) coming on the power play, and the more bulk offense they can generate, the better. Forsberg would help Nashville in that regard, substantially more than playing the Hyde version of Bourque with our two best forwards.
Whether it be Forsberg or Beck or someone else, we should be seeing someone come up from Milwaukee soon unless another trade is forthcoming. Carrying 12 forwards for an extended period of time is playing with fire, because one tweak or tumble in warm-ups and Bartley is playing rover.
In games where Forsberg exceeded 15 minutes of TOI in Nashville, he had a goal and an assist. Two points in two games.
But that's the best part: a power play goal counts the same as an even-strength goal, and teams can be successful wherever they produce goals as long as they're producing goals consistently. Compare Pittsburgh (26% of their offense on the power play) and Anaheim (19%). Both generate their offense in different ways, and both lead their conferences. Nashville can be successful with a high proportion of its offense (27%) coming on the power play, and the more bulk offense they can generate, the better. Forsberg would help Nashville in that regard, substantially more than playing the Hyde version of Bourque with our two best forwards.
Whether it be Forsberg or Beck or someone else, we should be seeing someone come up from Milwaukee soon unless another trade is forthcoming. Carrying 12 forwards for an extended period of time is playing with fire, because one tweak or tumble in warm-ups and Bartley is playing rover.
A few random thoughts. Stalberg looks totally frustrated and pissed. Plays single digit minutes on the 4th line while Nystrom, Bourque, and Spals get major time on scoring lines. He must be at odds with Trotz. While he may deserve it (we don't know what's going on behind the scenes) this has to be chilling to future FA scoring forwards.
Not too much of a Canadian bias on the NHL Network. This morning we have ESPN giving Carter *** Hutton the #1 Play of the day. Meanwhile, the NHL Network rates an overly dramatic glove save by Price the #1 play and Hutton #2. Then in the 3 Stars of the Night, Weber gets #3 and Price gets #1 with 40 saves (yet he gave up 4 goals: a .900 save percentage). Why? Cuz the Habs beat the Sens in a wild 5-4 game and Price made a lot of saves. Meanwhile, Webs dominates against his almost-BFF-Team, the Flyers in Philly. Oh Canada .......
I agree. I do not know what Nystrom is even doing off of the 4th line. His goal last night was a lucky deflection. The same kind of goal that Hornqvist usually gets.
I agree. I do not know what Nystrom is even doing off of the 4th line. His goal last night was a lucky deflection. The same kind of goal that Hornqvist usually gets.
People say they are disappointed that Stalberg hasn't done more, but when your paired Gaustad/Hendricks(I know he's gone now)/Clune your not going to do much production wise. He gets a handful of games with a scoring line then gets dropped back to the bottom line again. I honestly feel like he thought he was going to be used alot better than he was in Chicago otherwise he wouldn't have come here.
People say they are disappointed that Stalberg hasn't done more, but when your paired Gaustad/Hendricks(I know he's gone now)/Clune your not going to do much production wise. He gets a handful of games with a scoring line then gets dropped back to the bottom line again. I honestly feel like he thought he was going to be used alot better than he was in Chicago otherwise he wouldn't have come here.
IIRC he was put in a top 6 role in Chicago and didn't produce. So they bumped to the 3rd and 4th lines and finally wound up a healthy scratch. I'd say he's producing here like he did for the Hawks. If he didn't produce with the talented forwards in Chicago, he's not going to light it up with the Preds mediocre forwards.
Why is the talent of scoring not valued unless it's accompanied by grit? Yet grit is valued regardless of scoring ability. Trotzonian
I think Stalberg is a guy who thinks he is better than he really is. He showed several times in Chicago that he doesn't have the talent to hold down a top six role, but he always thought he had. Which was one of the reasons why he decided to sign elsewhere, because he wanted a top six role and power-play minutes.
I haven't watched Nashville a lot this season, but from reading here it sounds like his career in Nashville is following the same path as it did in Chicago. He is put in a top six role, fails to take the chance and when his ice time is reduced he gets pissed off and Trotz (just like Quenneville in Chicago), puts him in the doghouse.
All of which highlights what an under appreciated asset we had with Erat in his prime years.
Why is the talent of scoring not valued unless it's accompanied by grit? Yet grit is valued regardless of scoring ability. Trotzonian
Stalberg has been given very little opportunity to succeed. It became pretty clear in the very early going that Trotz wasn't crazy about him.
He's not fitting in, but let's not pretend he's had tons of chances. I can't count how many nice passes he's made that were botched by Clune or Hendricks.
I fully expect that he gets traded this summer. This isn't the first time Poile and Trotz had a personnel disagreement.