The Predators were an expansion team.How about you actually LOOK UP Barry's record?
As Richie Daggers pointed out, he took over an expansion team. Back when the expansion draft wasn't nearly as generous. He had a brutal squad his first 4-5 years and making the playoffs was not really part of the plan those first few seasons.1) Took him SIX years to make the playoffs the first time - everyone who sucks his toes here would be clamoring for his head if he had 6 years here without making the playoffs.
True. But I guess he learned something as in his next TWELVE years he WON FIFTEEN playoff series.2) Took him TWELVE years to WIN ONE playoff series.
Getting "past the 2nd round" means making it to the conference finals. Something only 4 coaches do every year. And something that Trots did in back to back years here.3) Took him NINETEEN years to get past the 2nd round, with Washington. With a plethora of offensive talent.
True. So after missing the first 5 seasons with an expansion team, he made the playoffs 18 out of 22 seasons. With three different teams. Remarkable.4) In 23 seasons of coaching, he missed the playoffs NINE times. Before us, he made ONE Conference final, with Washington.
Not bad. Lambert is 2-4.5) 83-79 career playoff record
I am. Trotz. Pretty obvious.Lane is one for one in making the playoffs. Not saying which is better. Just saying the ludicrous belief that a coach with BT's career record makes him some sort of God, as too many believe here, is revisionism at its worst.
Isles fans were clamoring for Lambert's testicles two weeks ago. What's your point? That fans dictate a coaches success? (yes, there are grown men here that actually believe that). Also, there are only 8 coaches with two or more Jack Adams awards and BT is one of them. Impressive.There are 19 coaches with 2 or more rings, and BT is not one of them. Three of them are Cooper, Sullivan and Daryl Sutter. Pens fans are clamoring for Sullivan's testicles to be donated to the Iceland volcano. Quenneville has 3.
Too soon to say. And not sure you can draw the conclusion that "we're better off with Lambert vs Trotz." I FULLY preferred how we played in the playoffs under Trotz (6 series wins) vs Lambert (zero series wins). If we make it to the SCF, Lambert will have my attention.I FULLY prefer how we are playing right now; it is far closer to what is needed to win a Cup in today's NHL and with the way the Refs call the game.
Ergo for this team:Other than the blown leads, this team has looked dynamite.
Yeah and I remember all those posters saying that they couldn't play the game they are playing RIGHT NOW (and that was just 6 weeks ago) because they didn't have the skill. Barzal should be traded nonsense. I said this was a playoff caliber team but the system needed tweaking and I was laughed at. Where are these posters now?This team needs to not sit back with a lead. They’re built to attack. They don’t have the airtight structure anymore, so they can’t afford to fall back on a trap
You're really not embarrassed writing this stuff?Ergo for this team:
Lambert's style of hockey > Trotz style of hockey.
No one in their right mind would want to go back to Trotz hockey based on the "dynamite" things we've seen thus far. Barzal unleashed. A top 5 powerplay on it's way up. High Scoring team. Exciting for everyone to watch.
I would take a loss in the ECF watching this exciting brand of hockey over the boring risk adverse, low scoring, low excitement hockey Trotz had the team playing that everyone but Islander fans were complaining about throughout the league. The best Islander teams whether it be during the dynasty years, the '93 years, the 2001-2002 team- these were exciting teams to watch. The playoff games were memorable. The erectile dysfunctional-like play Trotz had this team putting forth 2 years ago- I'm sorry, was boring as shit. Every NHL commentator and fans from other teams would say the same.
So stop making it appear like the Trotz years were some sort of phenomenal success. They weren't. They were fond to watch as it happened, but what memories do you have of them? We won a number of rounds but I don't remember anything that stood out like a Bates penalty shot, Steve Webb hits, a dominant Islander powerplay. All I remember is boring as shit hockey with the predictable loss against a better coached team that was trying to play hockey while the Islanders were trying to play chess and each of them ended up in a predictable loss. I saw a coach who was too risk adverse, too conservative that he wouldn't give the green light for his players to play to their strengths and talents. To me that was totally absurd!
I would NEVER want to go back to Trotz hockey. Seriously though, I respect the guy. I appreciate the wins and the playoff appearances, but by god, don't ever bore me with that ridiculous shit again. Lou was right. A new voice was needed. A new direction. He saw what was happening and he canned the problem.
If Reilly isn’t here and we’re still putting out a 4th line with Martin, along with Mayfield and Pelech playing the way they were before they got hurt, we aren’t capable of playing the way they are now.Yeah and I remember all those posters saying that they couldn't play the game they are playing RIGHT NOW (and that was just 6 weeks ago) because they didn't have the skill. Barzal should be traded nonsense. I said this was a playoff caliber team but the system needed tweaking and I was laughed at. Where are these posters now?
I’m surprised you still show your face around here.You're really not embarrassed writing this stuff?
You're welcome.I’m surprised you still show your face around here.
So were we in Year THREE when We went to the semifinalsThe Predators were an expansion team.
That’s a cop out. Martin, Mayfield, and Pelech are not reasons why our PP is now effective. They have nothing to do with how Barzal or Dobson play their game. Nothing to do with players cheating up the ice Or being creative, or using their linemates better, or not just mindlessly forechecking rather than scoring off the rush. Or in general as Lambert wanted them to play “loose”, in the zone, or just letting our players let their natural talent shine. Everything I’ve been asking for this team to be doing they’re doing right now. Maybe Lambert and I see things alike. Maybe there were growing pains as the system transitioned to more offensive minded one. All credit should go to Lou and Lambert for making these changes to the Islander game.If Reilly isn’t here and we’re still putting out a 4th line with Martin, along with Mayfield and Pelech playing the way they were before they got hurt, we aren’t capable of playing the way they are now.
That’s a cop out. Martin, Mayfield, and Pelech are not reasons why our PP is now effective. They have nothing to do with how Barzal or Dobson play their game. Nothing to do with players cheating up the ice Or being creative, or using their linemates better, or not just mindlessly forechecking rather than scoring off the rush. Or in general as Lambert wanted them to play “loose”, in the zone, or just letting our players let their natural talent shine. Everything I’ve been asking for this team to be doing they’re doing right now. Maybe Lambert and I see things alike. Maybe there were growing pains as the system transitioned to more offensive minded one. All credit should go to Lou and Lambert for making these changes to the Islander game.
The Islanders are winning games now and everybody is rewriting the past.
Snow is better than Lamoriello. And Lamoriello was only good because he hired Trotz
But Trotz was bad because he was holding back Barzal
Lamoriello is also bad because he fired Trotz and hired Lambert
Earlier this season I think, but I’m not sure; that Lambert was also bad because Barzal was still held back.
Now Lambert is better than Trotz. It’s good that Lou fired Trotz… I think.
What is going on here?
You’re really shoveling it with 2 hands now.That’s a cop out. Martin, Mayfield, and Pelech are not reasons why our PP is now effective. They have nothing to do with how Barzal or Dobson play their game. Nothing to do with players cheating up the ice Or being creative, or using their linemates better, or not just mindlessly forechecking rather than scoring off the rush. Or in general as Lambert wanted them to play “loose”, in the zone, or just letting our players let their natural talent shine. Everything I’ve been asking for this team to be doing they’re doing right now. Maybe Lambert and I see things alike. Maybe there were growing pains as the system transitioned to more offensive minded one. All credit should go to Lou and Lambert for making these changes to the Islander game.
Please, now.So were we in Year THREE when We went to the semifinals
So were the Panthers when they went to the finals
Do you even know MY specific opinions on any ONE of the following topics:
Snow
Lamoriello
Trotz
Lambert
Barzal
How dare you! I claimed that mantle already!Lol. I just woke up. Looks like I missed the party!
As for the, how should I put it, sebaceous rodents comments, if someone doesn’t want to be called shit stop acting like shit. Can’t we all just get along here? Let’s all learn to respect the diversity of the commentary and everyone will be happy. But if it takes one person to be above it all- I’ll be that person.
Lol. I just woke up. Looks like I missed the party!
As for the, how should I put it, sebaceous rodents comments, if someone doesn’t want to be called shit stop acting like shit. Can’t we all just get along here? Let’s all learn to respect the diversity of the commentary and everyone will be happy. But if it takes one person to be above it all- I’ll be that person.
Lol.How dare you! I claimed that mantle already!
That's it, you and I are DONE.