RDS: Gaston Therrien for the lols

Deluded Puck

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Price is at 150%

It's not just the numbers he's putting up, but it's magnified because his margin for error is zero.

Subban also putting up 50+ points on a team that generally can't score is damn impressive.
 

Smokey Thompson

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Pretty ridiculous to give him a 70 grade with the team tied for 1st overall.

Problem on this board is Desharnais and Therrien can't get credit for anything. If they do something good posters have to give somebody else credit. They don't hesitate to crap on them when things go bad though...1 way street.

Last night Galchenyuk took the dumbest penality by a Hab this year, ran the Florida d-man in the post with 2:20 left and the Habs on the PP with the puck nowhere near either of them, killing a PP and giving Florida 2-3 scoring chances in the dying minutes. we barely hear a peep about it...if that was Desharnais, we'd have 3 threads about it in 12 hours and have a lynch mob waiting at the airport once the team arrived. Huge double standards...

If that were Desharnais skating into 6'6 Gudbranson, he'd have landed 10 feet away and stayed on his ass for a good 30 seconds.

Also Gudbranson sold that to a tee. He's the biggest player on the ice yet flops as if he got hit by a truck when Galch tries to tie him up.
 

Sterling Archer

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Might as well put my ratings (in terms of expectations):

Here's my list, again, in terms of expectations and their personal talent:

Price: 95%
Pacioretty: 90%
Subban: 87%
Markov: 85%
Plekanec: 78%
Gallagher: 77%
Galchenyuk: 75%
Tokarski: 75%
Petry: 75%
Beaulieu: 73%
Weise: 70%
DLR: 70%
Gilbert: 70%
Desharnais: 70%
Prust: 67%
Emelin: 67%
Gonchar: 66%
Eller: 65%
DSP: 62.5%
Parenteau: 62.5%
Mitchell: 60%
Flynn: 60%
Malhotra: 60%
 

Rosso Scuderia

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Here's my list, again, in terms of expectations and their personal talent:

Price: 95%
Pacioretty: 90%
Subban: 87%
Markov: 85%
Plekanec: 78%
Gallagher: 77%
Galchenyuk: 75%
Tokarski: 75%
Petry: 75%
Beaulieu: 73%
Weise: 70%
DLR: 70%
Gilbert: 70%
Desharnais: 70%
Prust: 67%
Emelin: 67%
Gonchar: 66%
Eller: 65%
DSP: 62.5%
Parenteau: 62.5%
Mitchell: 60%
Flynn: 60%
Malhotra: 60%

How is DSP 62.5%?

You are actually satisfied with his game? He played 11 games. No goal 1 assist. He played 1 maybe 2 "good" games out of 11.

How is he 62.5% and Eller 65%? If Eller is at 65%, DSP should be at 40%.
 

jaffy27

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If that were Desharnais skating into 6'6 Gudbranson, he'd have landed 10 feet away and stayed on his ass for a good 30 seconds.

Also Gudbranson sold that to a tee. He's the biggest player on the ice yet flops as if he got hit by a truck when Galch tries to tie him up.
True...but I hear what Monctonscout is saying, except the Galchenyuk thing
 

Monctonscout

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If that were Desharnais skating into 6'6 Gudbranson, he'd have landed 10 feet away and stayed on his ass for a good 30 seconds.

Also Gudbranson sold that to a tee. He's the biggest player on the ice yet flops as if he got hit by a truck when Galch tries to tie him up.

Does Gudbranson wear 2 inch lifts in his skates? If he's 6'6" then Desharnais is 5'10". :laugh:

I saw the replay and it looked like Galchenyuk was throwing a check...and the puck was nowhere near.
 

Mrb1p

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Gaston Therrien and Gilbert keep going on about Eller not working hard enough and the third panelist always shakes their head and tells them they make no sense. Damphousse seemed genuinly upset at Gilbert last week :laugh: "Non jtel dit il travaille fort dans tout les entrainements, ca tu peu pas lui repprocher" "Yress une chose, ya pas la vision de Desharnais lui"
 

Sterling Archer

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How is DSP 62.5%?

You are actually satisfied with his game? He played 11 games. No goal 1 assist. He played 1 maybe 2 "good" games out of 11.

How is he 62.5% and Eller 65%? If Eller is at 65%, DSP should be at 40%.

62.5 is verge of failing. He's still hitting and good defensively.

Eller is garbage and you and everyone else will have to come to grips with that. Only slightly better than DSP only because he's come out of his 30 game slumber to score for the next 5 games until he goes back to doing 2/5th of **** all until God knows when. Can't wait until we trade this inconsistent, head case out of this city to make room for more effective players who play with the smallest iota of consistency and doesn't have to have his hand held and be constantly stroked to get him to play at a menial level. His production is nowhere near his talent level and that's a case of HIS own doing and not Therrien and definitely not DD's fault. Had to get that in because that's the argument for Eller suckiness. It's never his fault but rather someone elses, always...
 

Brainiac

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Subban also putting up 50+ points on a team that generally can't score is damn impressive.

Subban should get the Norris this year.

Karlsson is good, but he's got a reputation of being weak defensively, he doesn't play on the PK and his team is out of the playoffs.

Letang is having a great year as well, but he plays behind a better offense. I mean, a bunch of his passes will land on Crosby or Malkin's tape. That helps a bit.

Out west, Giordano went down (he had it otherwise). Weber should be up there, as usual, but a guy on his own team (Josi) has a better stat line.

Also, Subban has more point than any of them at ES. He's not even top 10 for PP-TOI/game (currently #11). I mean, at what point will the PP specialist label wear off?

And all the advanced metrics have Subban totally dominating. His SAT-close is off the chart compared to his teammates and he's up there when you look at it league wide.

And Gaston is a freaking moron. :laugh: It's not just the ratings, but the comments he gives. Like, Carey Price has to control his emotions better... :help:
 

radicalcenter

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Après chaque tranche de 10 matchs cette saison, j'analyserai les performances des joueurs et de l'entraîneur du Canadien de Montréal et leur attribuerai une note individuelle.

So is this based on the last 10 games or on the entire season?

Because the Gallagher rating seems to based on the entire season

Brendan Gallagher Р87% : Devrait connątre une saison de pr̬s de 25 buts. Mission accomplie.

And if it's based on the entire season, how on earth is DD's ranking higher than Plek's?

And if it's based on the last 10 games, Eller at 60% is ridiculous. If we consider only the last 10 games he should be in the 80's.
 

Lebowski

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Subban should get the Norris this year.
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There's no one pulling ahead at this point. My top three is probably Letang/Subban/Josi right now, but it's hard to say who should win over the others. Weber is knocking on the door as well, and if the Sens make the playoffs, I wouldn't be surprised if voters turned a blind eye to Karlsson's deficiencies and lackluster first 40ish games.

Overall, I think these are the 5 guys that have a chance right now.

Really sucks for Giordano, though, since he's been the best defenseman in the league over the last two years... When he's healthy.
 

punk255

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That what I mean when I said that french media are realy full of bias and favoritism
Gaston therrien is a good exemple of mediocrity and he's so bad that I find him funny

But what is not funny is that you have people who beleive him and repeat like a bucnh of monkeys everything he said

Also he take himself so much seriously that it's ridiculous
Here my score for Gascon on his evaluation: 10%
 

radicalcenter

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He evaluates each 10 games, but the scores are cummulative.

Feels strange that I'm there explaining Gaston logics... :laugh: I think I'll go wash my keyboard.

Alright thanks

Can someone explain to me why Desharnais has a higher score than Plekanec?
 

TRG

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And if it's based on the entire season, how on earth is DD's ranking higher than Plek's?

Gaston gave him +10% for being Quebecois and +5% for being his favorite player.

And I don't want to start a language debate. It's just that Gaston is one of the most biased "analysts".
 
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Monctonscout

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Subban should get the Norris this year.

Karlsson is good, but he's got a reputation of being weak defensively, he doesn't play on the PK and his team is out of the playoffs.

Letang is having a great year as well, but he plays behind a better offense. I mean, a bunch of his passes will land on Crosby or Malkin's tape. That helps a bit.

Out west, Giordano went down (he had it otherwise). Weber should be up there, as usual, but a guy on his own team (Josi) has a better stat line.

Also, Subban has more point than any of them at ES. He's not even top 10 for PP-TOI/game (currently #11). I mean, at what point will the PP specialist label wear off?

And all the advanced metrics have Subban totally dominating. His SAT-close is off the chart compared to his teammates and he's up there when you look at it league wide.

And Gaston is a freaking moron. :laugh: It's not just the ratings, but the comments he gives. Like, Carey Price has to control his emotions better... :help:

Karlsson should never, ever get mentioned for the Norris, he's basically their top line center who starts shifts on defense. Defensively he is well below the top d-men in the NHL.
 

Brainiac

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Gaston gave him +10% for being Quebecois and +5% for being his favorite player.

And that would be pretty conservative. More like +20% for being québécois and another +15% for being his favorite p'tit gars de chez nous.

I think the morons at RDS see a sort of collective achievement in DD reaching the NHL. And just like Michel, they don't want to see the Habs win the cup. They want to see the Habs win the cup with as many francos as possible.

At least, Bergevin seems like he sees a little more clearly on that issue. Could you imagine if he re-signed Bouillon? Right now, he'd be on a pairing with Subban.
 

Lebowski

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I especially like how they praise Desharnais' determination and "courage" when he's going through a slump, while taking dumps non-stop on Eller.
 

Coldplay

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Individual grades, what the hell:

Price 98%
Pacioretty 90%
Subban 88%
Markov 85%
Plekanec 84%
Gallagher 82%
Petry 82%
Galchenyuk 80%
Beaulieu 78%
Gonchar 76%
Weise 75%
De La Rose 75%
Prust 74%
Gilbert 73%
Tokarski 71%
Desharnais 70%
Emelin 69%
Eller 65%
Parenteau 62%
Sekac 60%
Weaver 55%
Malhotra 55%
Smith-Pelly 40%
Flynn NA
Mitchell NA
 

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