Yep
Lighthearted
"Il est toujours aussi optimiste avec les effectifs sous la main"
Optimist? Really Gaston?
He sucks so much. He must be doing this for free.
Optimist? Really Gaston?
He sucks so much. He must be doing this for free.
RDS: Gaston Therrien for the lols
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LaP
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Really?
I know he is kind of d*** but did he really suggested that? DD would be the last name that would come to my mind to play there. Patch may be the only one i see that could be good at the role. He has the shots for and he is good defensively. In fact he is better when he can shot for far than close to the net i think.
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82% rating for our 1st line C who has 7 LESS points than our 2nd line centre, doesn't take any defensive zone face offs, play the PK or play in any other defensive capacity and is constantly out muscled or falls can't possibly be considered ridiculous.
You must be biased.
hototogisu
Poked the bear!!!!!
Didn't we already try Desharnais on the point on the PP once upon a time, like in the Martin/Cunneyworth days?
Gaston Therrien is the biggest idiot on the face of the Earth (okay, maybe not the Earth, but definitely on RDS).
I don't know if he's just doing that to get a rise out of people and generate discussion or if he's just that stupid and devoid of hockey knowledge.
I don't know if he's just doing that to get a rise out of people and generate discussion or if he's just that stupid and devoid of hockey knowledge.
Lol someone in the comments of the article said they would rather have bournival than gallagher on the first line and they would rather have bouillon instead of beaulieu. They also said they wouldn't have traded for Petry and would take eller out of the lineup.
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Idiots attract idiots.
Unfortunately, most of Gaston's fans are people attracted to his agenda. If it was up to him or his fans, you'd have a 90% french team, coach, management etc to represent Quebec. Winning, cups etc comes secondary to being able to interview all the players in French.
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Gaston Therrien is simply the worst analysts out there....English, French and probably even Mexicans included. Even The Don is looking like Einstein compare to Therrien.
He's totally bias to anything having a french name (Parenteau having a higher note than Eller = LOL). His hockey knowledge is outdated and his analysis is putrid at best.
But what can we do, Sports medias are runs by Dinosaurs who are past their expiry date....don't talk to them about corsi or scoring chances, they simply don't know anything about it...they are still trying to understands +/-....
He's totally bias to anything having a french name (Parenteau having a higher note than Eller = LOL). His hockey knowledge is outdated and his analysis is putrid at best.
But what can we do, Sports medias are runs by Dinosaurs who are past their expiry date....don't talk to them about corsi or scoring chances, they simply don't know anything about it...they are still trying to understands +/-....
I know a few people who are biased, and are honest about their bias, towards Québécois players. They remain fairly knowledgeable hockey fans.
Each and every one of them despise the hell outta Gaston Therrien.
I'm pretty sure he has no, or very few, fans.
Lafleurs Guy
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Or maybe I dislike him because he's a bad coach? Sounds like an interesting debate for the Therrien thread...
Observant is the word you're trying to find. I'm thinking you understood laughable as a joke, as in totally overated, according to Gaston "La Gaffe" Therrien.82% rating for our 1st line C who has 7 LESS points than our 2nd line centre, doesn't take any defensive zone face offs, play the PK or play in any other defensive capacity and is constantly out muscled or falls can't possibly be considered ridiculous.
You must be biased.
Lafleurs Guy
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Gaston isnt' any different than some of the other anaysts out there apart from the accusation of bias (which I'm not going to talk about here.) Tons of analysts out there offer a very shallow perspective on what's really happening within an NHL team.
Part of the reason is politics, part of it is not wanting to get called out on something they've been wrong about down the road, and part of it may be personal relationships or whatever... It's a lot easier to sit and criticize anonymously on a message board. There's no real consequence for us so much of it is unfiltered. But to go out and rip a guy publicly is a whole different ballgame. Some guys are willing to do it but others... not so much. And I can understand why.
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I'm not painting the entire population with that brush, just the ones who follow Gaston as they're obviously NOT knowledgeable and have more of a franco bias.
In fact, you're reinforcing my point here. Most "knowledgeable" fans, biased or not can all come together in the fact he's a buffoon and shouldn't be given a soap box to have his voice heard.
As a 1st center of a team that has a 35g scorer winger, I expect nothing less than 60 pts for the center. DD is on pace for 45-46 pts.. So he's 15 pts short of what's acceptable/expected.
As a 3rd center of any team, a 30 pts production is expected. Considering that our bottom 6 except Weise has been very weak this season even 25 pts could be acceptable.
Eller is on pace for 23-24 pts so he's not that far off the production of a normal 3rd center.
Now how in the hell does our first center who is on pace for under 50 pts is getting 82% while playing the majority of the season with Pacioretty and on every PP and our 3rd center, who has a defensive role that he does relatively well and that plays with players like Prust, Sekac, Bourque, DSP, DLR who all have 7 goals and under this season, only get 60%.
Something isn't right mon Gaston.
As a 3rd center of any team, a 30 pts production is expected. Considering that our bottom 6 except Weise has been very weak this season even 25 pts could be acceptable.
Eller is on pace for 23-24 pts so he's not that far off the production of a normal 3rd center.
Now how in the hell does our first center who is on pace for under 50 pts is getting 82% while playing the majority of the season with Pacioretty and on every PP and our 3rd center, who has a defensive role that he does relatively well and that plays with players like Prust, Sekac, Bourque, DSP, DLR who all have 7 goals and under this season, only get 60%.
Something isn't right mon Gaston.
Lafleurs Guy
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Well the Montreal Canadiens are a unique situation. There IS the whole french language thing to consider. This creates a real problem because language debates get mixed in with hockey moves and it takes on a whole different dimension.
Look at the Leafs, they've had a debate for the past two years on their first line center too. Tyler Bozak has no business being there but that's where he's been under Carlyle. They have the same debates over on those boards too with some people arguing that Bozak is "producing" while others say its only due to Kessel... very similar to what's going on here.
The difference is that there's no French angle to anything there. Carlyle has the benefit of nobody calling him out for being pro-english or french... it's just a hockey move. That's all that gets debated - is it a good or bad move?
Here, playing DD takes on a whole different debate in some cases. Therrien gets criticized for being pro french. DD gets more points than a 3rd line center so some feel he should be there... others say its due to circumstances and in the background there's suspicions of bias against a certain language. Maybe Therrien just believes this guy is the best for the job. That could very well be the case and its why I don't go after him on language... 'cause I don't know. But many people (rightly or wrongly) assume it's because of language. And many people think those who criticize Therrien are only doing it because of language. Its unfortunate but that's how it is... Personally I'd prefer to just keep the whole language thing out of it and just talk about it from a hockey perspective.
Le Barron de HF
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Might as well put my ratings (in terms of expectations):
Price: 95%
Subban: 85%
Pacioretty: 85%
Markov: 82.5%
Plekanec: 75%
Petry: 75%
Beaulieu: 72.5%
Gallagher: 72.5%
Galchenyuk: 72.5%
Weise: 70%
DLR: 70%
Gonchar: 70%
Gilbert: 70%
Prust: 67.5%
Eller: 65%
Emelin: 65%
Desharnais: 65%
Smith-Pelly: 65%
Tokarski: 65%
Mitchell: 65%
Flynn: 65%
DSP: 65%
Parenteau: 60%
Malhotra: 60%
Price: 95%
Subban: 85%
Pacioretty: 85%
Markov: 82.5%
Plekanec: 75%
Petry: 75%
Beaulieu: 72.5%
Gallagher: 72.5%
Galchenyuk: 72.5%
Weise: 70%
DLR: 70%
Gonchar: 70%
Gilbert: 70%
Prust: 67.5%
Eller: 65%
Emelin: 65%
Desharnais: 65%
Smith-Pelly: 65%
Tokarski: 65%
Mitchell: 65%
Flynn: 65%
DSP: 65%
Parenteau: 60%
Malhotra: 60%
Lafleurs Guy
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Gave him 99 on account of him not being perfect but won't argue with 100 either. If only he could take over the shutout lead he'd be a quadruple crown leader
Leader in GAA-Wins-Save%-SO
Wonder if that's ever been done?
