Hunter Gathers
The Crown
It's actually somewhat good to have this discussion in order to clear up the ambiguity that some see with regards to Hockeystreams.
I'll bite.
Why is it legal?
And if you provide the "donation" excuse, why does that line of reasoning make sense to you?
Boy, I'd tell you to quit while you're ahead, but that ship has sailed.I'm not.
I think all of the above can be answered/responded to with this post.
The main reason Aereo violates the law is that you are actually keeping copies of the programming. Plus, it's an actual company re-broadcasting the content for profit. There's a big difference between Aereo and watching an unlicensed stream that isn't saved on any device anywhere.
That's mainly why streaming is legal. You aren't downloading a copy and keeping/storing it. It may seem like a stupid and trivial difference (and, in all reality, it IS a stupid and trivial difference), but that's where we are at with current law regarding this. Right now, as long as you aren't saving the content or re-broadcasting it to people for profit (like in a bar or with Aereo), then you are not violating the DCMA/FCA right now. I would not expect this to stay like this forever, though. That's the big thing to remember.
Now, the actual COMPANY running Hockeystreams may be violating the law. Much like Aereo. Keep in mind that merely being outside of the US doesn't matter all that much since they are targeting US audience. The reach of US law (especially w/r/t internet crimes) extends when there is that type of targeting going on.
For me, as soon as the law is changed, I'll be ditching hockeystreams. Right now? Why would I? It's perfectly legal under the current state of the law. Right now, the end user is simply not in violation of anything.
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It's actually somewhat good to have this discussion in order to clear up the ambiguity that some see with regards to Hockeystreams.
Reggie, have you read the caselaw I provided you with, yet?
I read it, and for the time being, it is legal, but it is still a fine line.
That being said, I am still leery in regard to providing credit information to a third party, a foreign entity, that dances on the letter of the law.
If you are going to use it, don't use main credit accounts.
Note: The only person who provided a real argument aside from saying "Ha, you don't know anything!" was Bird Law. Aside from Bird Law, the rest of you were like Hockeystreams, technically right.
You're the one that needs to provide an argument.
There you are again with the credit card mention. Why should we be leery of identity theft? There is no reason to fear identity theft from hockey streams versus any website you are purchasing something from.
There is a huge difference.
Let's take Amazon. Amazon could be hacked, but Hockeystreams, a non-ethical foreign entity that I'm sure is hosted by the upmost ethical people, could use your information.
Should I provide evidence for not taking candy from strangers in tinted windows vans too?
There is a huge difference.
Let's take Amazon. Amazon could be hacked, but Hockeystreams, a non-ethical foreign entity that I'm sure is hosted by the upmost ethical people, could use your information.
Should I provide evidence for not taking candy from strangers in tinted windows vans too?
"non-ethical"?
Their customer service has been excellent and when I had a billing issue it was resolved in minutes with a live person via chat.
They've done nothing shady and if you're measuring stick is Amazon, then there are plenty, no PLENTY, of small businesses that you've got a lot to fear from.
I don't consider Hockeystreams nonethical since they aren't breaking the law.
I forget the loophole, all I know is it's awesome.How aren't they breaking the law? You need permission to retransmit a broadcast.
How aren't they breaking the law? You need permission to retransmit a broadcast.
There is a huge difference.
Let's take Amazon. Amazon could be hacked, but Hockeystreams, a non-ethical foreign entity that I'm sure is hosted by the upmost ethical people, could use your information.
Should I provide evidence for not taking candy from strangers in tinted windows vans too?
You say "foreign entity" like it's something scary. We're not talking some lawless third world country here, it's the Netherlands. A close political and military ally of the US, and not exactly a place particularly known for identity theft or credit card abuse. A safe, organized western country with a more liberal copyright law.
Furthermore, HS is a business. They make their money off paying customers who trust their product and business. If they started selling email addresses or credit card information, they would lose customers = lose money.
Do you risk identity theft by signing up for HS and using your credit card? Sure. To the same degree you do by signing up for any other site which has thousands of paying subscribers.
I have very fast cable internet and hockeystreams is constantly freezing on me. It is almost unwatchable. I prefer Charlies stream to the one I pay for. The quality of GCL was great but they blackout way too many games. I am in Alaska so that is inexcusable. Anything on Dish is blacked out. I think you can get around the blackouts by having a VPN based in Europe. Does anybody know if that works?
It should, but if you get caught, the NHL or whoever it is that runs GCL has the right to terminate your account and charge you an ETF. I don't know if they enforce it.
If you don't care about the risk, it's definitely worth a try. VPNs are cheap as hell.
What is an ETF?
I wouldn't worry about being caught. I am not sure its worth the hassle to me though. Charlies feed is great for live games and the replay games on HS come through fine. I really liked the quality of GCL when I did use it but hated that 1/2 the games were blacked out.
What is an ETF?
I wouldn't worry about being caught. I am not sure its worth the hassle to me though. Charlies feed is great for live games and the replay games on HS come through fine. I really liked the quality of GCL when I did use it but hated that 1/2 the games were blacked out.
Early termination fee.What is an ETF?
I wouldn't worry about being caught. I am not sure its worth the hassle to me though. Charlies feed is great for live games and the replay games on HS come through fine. I really liked the quality of GCL when I did use it but hated that 1/2 the games were blacked out.