GDT: Game 8| Detroit Red Wings at Colorado Avalanche| October 17, 2013 at 9:00 PM - FSD

[Big Poppa Puck]

just trade them for Vanek

Smith, Tatar, Sammy (contract/cap dump), 1st for Vanek?

 

[Vladdy84]

Smith, Tatar, Sammy (contract/cap dump), 1st for Vanek?

I could see something that stupid happening for like 40 games of Vanek. There would have to be more salary in the deal. Wings don't have any cap space.

 

[Lugaid]

A Colorado team that isn't sucking anymore, intriguing! Looking forward to this, although I fear they might get the best of us. It depends, if Z/Datsyuk is having a good night (like against Boston, or better), we win, if not, we'll lose.

 

[Henkka]

A Colorado team that isn't sucking anymore, intriguing! Looking forward to this, although I fear they might get the best of us. It depends, if Z/Datsyuk is having a good night (like against Boston, or better), we win, if not, we'll lose.

Avs is pretty much a Cinderella team riding with a insanely hot goaltending. For example, their shot differential is negative with 5 shots per game.

Time end that lucky ride with a Red Wings win.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Avs is pretty much a Cinderella team riding with a insanely hot goaltending. For example, their shot differential is negative with 5 shots per game.

Time end that lucky ride with a Red Wings win.

shot differential is positive when score is close. by one shot so far this season.

red wings are negative when score is close. by 15 shots total.

 

[Electric Thunder]

Seems like just yesterday these two teams dowright loathed eachother. Those were the days!

 

[RoyIsALegend]

So much focus on Roy. I wish he was playing, but you should focus on the Avs' high-octane offense instead. Should be a great game.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Smith, Tatar, Sammy (contract/cap dump), 1st for Vanek?

Sammy has a NTC, I seriously doubt that he would accept a trade to Buffalo.

 

[JPE123]

Sammy has a NTC, I seriously doubt that he would accept a trade to Buffalo.

Only way Sammy accepts a trade is if he wants to get another contract and needs a chance to play. If he's planning on retiring, he'll just ride the bench and collect.

 

[joe89]

Our defenders will have their hands full tonight with their speed and grit on the wings. But I think the key to beat them is to get long shifts in their zone, I don't see who's gonna stop Z&D on that defense if they get going.

 

[chances14]

Avs is pretty much a Cinderella team riding with a insanely hot goaltending. For example, their shot differential is negative with 5 shots per game.

Time end that lucky ride with a Red Wings win.

reminds me of the oilers hot start a couple years ago.

These young teams always fall back to earth. time to start that fall tonight with a wings win

 

[Hammettf2b]

So I take it no Jimmy again tonight?

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Only way Sammy accepts a trade is if he wants to get another contract and needs a chance to play. If he's planning on retiring, he'll just ride the bench and collect.

Exactly.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

So I take it no Jimmy again tonight?

Nope Monster is in the net again this evening.

 

[crashman]

Nope Monster is in the net again this evening.

Maybe they're trying to showcase him for a trade?

 

[SoupNazi]

Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive 34m
Wings skating with same lines and D pairs at Pepsi Center: 40-13-44, 93-8, 71-18-11, 20-41-22, 21, 37 extras; 52-55, 27-65, 4-23, 2 extra.

Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive 10m
Babcock confirms same lines and lineup tonight that he's used the last 3 games.

Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive 7m
Babcock indicated Howard should be ready for Saturday's game in Phoenix. He will back up Gustavsson tonight

 

[JPE123]

Babcock is back in love with Lashoff. He hasn't actually been that bad and seems improved over last year

 

[hot dog]

Babcock is back in love with Lashoff. He hasn't actually been that bad and seems improved over last year

He's definitely been better than last year but that isn't saying much. Still, I haven't noticed him much while on the ice... I suppose that's good for a guy like him.

 

[mindfly]

Avs win and Wings' arch-enemy, Patrick Roy, becomes historic as the first NHL coach to win his 7 first nhl games as head coach.

 

[sully6one]

Maybe they're trying to showcase him for a trade?

Or he's playing hot so ride him until Saturday when Howie is 100%

 

[aar000n]

three games in four nights and Colorado played at home on the 15th their last game. Wings should be tired which plays into the hands of Colorado with its speed. I want us to win but say 3-1 avs.

 

[Syckle78]

6-1 Avs or 3-2 Wings

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

shot differential is positive when score is close. by one shot so far this season.

red wings are negative when score is close. by 15 shots total.

hahah beautiful, detroit bemusing about shot differential is hilarious or ignorant or both

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Smith, Tatar, Sammy (contract/cap dump), 1st for Vanek?

ken holland dosent know how to be an engaged GM, aint gonna happen

 

[Syckle78]

shot differential is positive when score is close. by one shot so far this season.

red wings are negative when score is close. by 15 shots total.

Not really sure what the value of that stat is. Seems to me that would just be heavily dependant on style of an individual team. If a team continues pressing they are going to maintain getting shots on goals in close games. If a team falls back and turtles to protect a lead in close games they aren't going get shots and give up more low percentage shots.

This doesn't even touch on if in the close games team a or b is leading or trailing in the close game. If one is always trailing and one is always leading in close games its going to skew the shot differential big time for obvious reasons.

This is my problem with a lot of stats in hockey. Almost nine of them have any context and don't paint anywhere.close to a meaningful picture. Advance stats work in baseball because at the root is basically a static one on one sport with minimal team support. Hockey is just too wide open and fluid and definitely needs more of an eye test.