GDT: Game #5 | Philadelphia Flyers @ Detroit Red Wings | 7:00 PM EST | FS-D ‎

[Nordic*]

Filppula is a better player than Weiss, from what I've seen.

 

[BinCookin]

Bertuzzi? Oft Injured? Since when?

Well Back problems, might flare up...

 

[Stuck in Socal]

Filppula is a better player than Weiss, from what I've seen.

Agreed. Flip sucked in the post season though.

 

[mindfly]

The thing with Weiss was he was supposed to be a better natural center where as Filppula perhaps might be the better overall player, but he isn't even a good center imo.

 

[Frk It]

The thing with Weiss was he was supposed to be a better natural center where as Filppula perhaps might be the better overall player, but he isn't even a good center imo.

Lol through 4 games

Filppula 59% on faceoffs
Weiss 41% on faceoffs

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Filppula is a better player than Weiss, from what I've seen.

Weiss was a far better player in Florida than the guy we're seeing in Detroit so far. Much more skilled.

 

[mindfly]

Lol through 4 games

Filppula 59% on faceoffs
Weiss 41% on faceoffs

I meant Weiss isn't, what it looks like, a better center than Filppula.

 

[PullHard]

I tink it is too early to say we messed up with the Flip v Weiss decision (obviously) though Flip has obviously adjusted offensively a lot quicker than Weiss has.

I think the benefit to signing Weiss is that once he settles in, he gives us a more reliable 2C in the long run. Flip might be more impactful than Weiss, but in Detroit he showed that it would likely only have been as a winger, which we have already. I still have a good feeling that it was the right decision. Weiss is certainly a better player than what we've seen so far. I think he is too concerned with trying to be perfect/ all over the ice than just focusing on playing at this point. But we will see in time.

 

[JmanWingsFan]

Well Back problems, might flare up...

That's not oft injured.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

I meant Weiss isn't, what it looks like, a better center than Filppula.

or we could focus on the fact that it went like this:

Weiss looked good, and then he went to Detroit.

Filppula left Detroit, and now he looks good.

could Detroit/Babcock be the problem? I mean, say what you will, but Weiss used to be a good player.

 

[Sadekuuro]

Filppula is a better player than Weiss, from what I've seen.

I have suspected so all along, but it's too early to be conclusive, and I'm still hoping not.

 

[Frk It]

Good for Val though.

He thought of himself as a 5 million dollar player.

Well, he's playing like one right now. Good to see him earning his contract.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

We should also mention that Fil has more offensive opportunity than ever and Weiss has less than ever. That's got to impact the comparison.

 

[BinCookin]

That's not oft injured.

You win. How about "Now may have injury concerns"

 

[detredWINgs]

Of course Filppula looks like the better player. He's escaped Babcock.

Leino. Kopecky. Brunner. Hudler. Samuelsson. Quincey. This isn't something new. You leave Detroit, and you produce at a higher rate. It's almost a fact by now.

I would place a hefty bet on Brendan Smith looking like a poor man's Kris Letang if he ever gets out of Detroit.

 

[Frk It]

Of course Filppula looks like the better player. He's escaped Babcock.

Leino. Kopecky. Brunner. Hudler. Samuelsson. Quincey. This isn't something new. You leave Detroit, and you produce at a higher rate. It's almost a fact by now.

I would place a hefty bet on Brendan Smith looking like a poor man's Kris Letang if he ever gets out of Detroit.

So Datsyuk and Zetterberg would have scored 120 pts in their prime on another team???

I'm only messing around man haha

 

[RedWingsNow*]

That's not oft injured.

Bertuzzi's back issues are well known. It doesn't always sideline him. But it does impact his play.

 

[JmanWingsFan]

Of course Filppula looks like the better player. He's escaped Babcock.

Leino. Kopecky. Brunner. Hudler. Samuelsson. Quincey. This isn't something new. You leave Detroit, and you produce at a higher rate. It's almost a fact by now.

I would place a hefty bet on Brendan Smith looking like a poor man's Kris Letang if he ever gets out of Detroit.

Leino is bad. He just had a brief period of playing well. Kopecky is still bad. Brunner? Too early. Hudler? Give me a break. He produced in Detroit. Samuelsson produced in Detroit. Quincey? You're using Quincey as an example? Really? Are you serious? Kyle Quincey.

 

[RedWingsNow*]

but in Detroit he showed that it would likely only have been as a winger, which we have already. .

Total myth.

 

[PullHard]

Total myth.

Flip was a fine 2C if you don't need a ton of offence, but bring up the numbers. He had his only significant production (IE $5M a year salary) winging Z and Hudler

Ken Holland doesn't pay $5M for what Flip brought.

 

[BinCookin]

Filppula vs Weiss... This should go on for years. But let me remind you, many on here basically said Flip was a passenger. He was not creating or making plays especially in the playoffs.

Most on this board were ok with Weiss as a replacement for Flip.

So far Flip has played much better on HIS team than Weiss on our team .... SO FAR...

 

[Vladdy84]

Get Fredo off the point. He needs to be in the slot. Same issue as we had last year with Brunner. Babcock is a dope.

 

[mindfly]

Alfie has been terrible

 

[Vladdy84]

Nice penalty Luke....

 

[detredWINgs]

Leino is bad. He just had a brief period of playing well. Kopecky is still bad. Brunner? Too early. Hudler? Give me a break. He produced in Detroit. Samuelsson produced in Detroit. Quincey? You're using Quincey as an example? Really? Are you serious? Kyle Quincey.

ALL of these players produced at a higher pace - despite playing with lesser talent in many cases - on other teams.

And Kyle Quincey is a PERFECT example if there ever was one. He has sucked in all respects since being here. On other teams, the coaches found a way to put him in a situation to succeed, and he did. I'd much rather have subpar defense with a hefty offensive contribution than subpar defense and nothing else. Thats what LA and Colorado got out of Quincey, and they were able to trade him for a decent exchange when it was all said and done.