GDT: Game #4 | 10/17/14 | Detroit Red Wings at Toronto Maple Leafs | FSD

[joe89]

This.
If we really want to try Weiss, I would rather take Franzen out for few games.

Eh.. We should take out Nestrasil who has no chemistry with anybody on the team and has looked passable at best for three games.

 

[Hammettf2b]

The hate for Joker is indeed a bit much.

He's playing well on the 4th line. Time to give him at least some credit. That line is doing what they should, no need to split them up.

Not hating on Joker at all. All I'm saying is give Weiss a chance with some talented guys, if it works out we have 3 solid scoring lines and a heck of a 4th line that would consist of Miller/Glendening-Helm-Abby. If it doesn't work out then by all means play other people instead of him.

 

[Pavels Dog]

It doesn't bug you even a little that Weiss was on the outside looking in before we ever took the ice this season?

That's what bugs me. If he was given a chance to play and failed then ok, good, we know what we have and there are better options. But he wasn't even given a real opportunity. And that entire process which is completely inconsistent player to player bugs the hell out of me.

Yeah I hear you, Weiss should have gotten a chance with better players in camp. I don't know why he didn't, but it's clear Babcock doesn't want to give Weiss much for free.

 

[ricky0034]

Babcock is finally playing the guys that deserve it the most and now everyone wants Weiss in for Andy because Weiss is paid more, basically? Andy is playing his heart out and that entire line has been fantastic these 3 games, doesn't send a great message to scratch anyone of them.

I say let Weiss sit until he either kills it so much in practice that he forces himself into the lineup, or until somone in the lineup plays bad or gets injured.

more like because Weiss is better at hockey

maybe we should slot in Cleary too because he works super hard

it's a total joke that some people are defending the weird decision of not giving Weiss a chance by saying he is worse than guys like Andersson

 

[Yemack]

more like because Weiss is better at hockey

maybe we should slot in Cleary too because he works super hard

it's a total joke that some people are defending the weird decision of not giving Weiss a chance by saying he is worse than guys like Andersson

Weiss will get his chance

and when he does, he can prove with his performance

 

[ricky0034]

Weiss will get his chance

and when he does, he can prove with his performance

if not now then when?

Datsyuk is still out and basically the whole team was terrible on Wednesday

 

[Yemack]

if not now then when?

Datsyuk is still out and basically the whole team was terrible on Wednesday

If not then that would be fantastic as well as that means Wings will stay injury free for the next 3-4 seasons.

 

[aar000n]

4-0 wings

 

[detredWINgs]

Again the training staff have absolutely nothing to do with any players off season strength and conditioning. Also to say he has incorporated anything into his workout you can assume is a gross oversimplification for the sale of something to put in the story because the way these guys workout is insanely technical.

Do you really think a player doesn't take into account the advice of the training staff that he spends 80% of his season with? Professional athletes aren't born knowing what dietitians and personal trainers know, and players who have been within the same organization for a decade are going to be heavily influenced by that training staff. Renzetti has been with the team long enough now to have made an impact on Howard.

 

[ricky0034]

If not then that would be fantastic as well as that means Wings will stay injury free for the next 3-4 seasons.

we aren't injury free now,Datsyuk is injured

why are people okay with not even giving Weiss a chance at all until we get a million injuries at the same time just to keep the likes of Andersson in the lineup and let the likes of Abdelkader pretend to be a top 9 forward?

 

[Frk It]

more like because Weiss is better at hockey

maybe we should slot in Cleary too because he works super hard

it's a total joke that some people are defending the weird decision of not giving Weiss a chance by saying he is worse than guys like Andersson

The 4th line is doing great and had an identity, swapping Weiss for Andersson doesn't really make sense.

We have seen a misfit 4th line of overpaid, underperforming, skilled players that can't hack it, and it sucked.

Putting Weiss on the 4th line just to say look he's out there is dumb. I don't think he's battling 4th liners for a spot, nor should he be. But I think he deserves a fair look at 3rd line wing, maybe a game in Nestrasil's spot.

 

[Hammettf2b]

The 4th line is doing great and had an identity, swapping Weiss for Andersson doesn't really make sense.

We have seen a misfit 4th line of overpaid, underperforming, skilled players that can't hack it, and it sucked.

Putting Weiss on the 4th line just to say look he's out there is dumb. I don't think he's battling 4th liners for a spot, nor should he be. But I think he deserves a fair look at 3rd line wing, maybe a game in Nestrasil's spot.

I don't think anyone is suggesting putting Weiss on the 4th line. You move him up to the 3rd line and drop Abby down. You then have a 4th line of Miller-Glendening-Abby.

 

[Yemack]

we aren't injury free now,Datsyuk is injured

why are people okay with not even giving Weiss a chance at all until we get a million injuries at the same time just to keep the likes of Andersson in the lineup and let the likes of Abdelkader pretend to be a top 9 forward?

There are lineup matching problem and maybe because Andersson and Abdelkader have shown something so far or during the camp and Weiss hasn't. Which you do not agree obiviously.

Like I said, Weiss will get his chance. Why wouldnt he?

 

[ricky0034]

The 4th line is doing great and had an identity, swapping Weiss for Andersson doesn't really make sense.

We have seen a misfit 4th line of overpaid, underperforming, skilled players that can't hack it, and it sucked.

Putting Weiss on the 4th line just to say look he's out there is dumb. I don't think he's battling 4th liners for a spot, nor should he be. But I think he deserves a fair look at 3rd line wing, maybe a game in Nestrasil's spot.

I never said I want him on the 4th line

who says it has to be a straight swap? if I were to take Andersson out of the lineup for Weiss I would shift Abdelkader down to the 4th line where he belongs too

or you could put him in for Nestrasil too I guess

either way really

 

[WingedWheel1987]

I personally think its stupid that Weiss isn't being given the opportunity to prove himself. Especially when Datsyuk is hurt and the Wings haven't managed to score more than two goals during their first three games.

 

[aar000n]

I personally think its stupid that Weiss isn't being given the opportunity to prove himself. Especially when Datsyuk is hurt and the Wings haven't managed to score more than two goals during their first three games.

This even cleary was given the chance to play.

 

[Pavels Dog]

I personally think its stupid that Weiss isn't being given the opportunity to prove himself. Especially when Datsyuk is hurt and the Wings haven't managed to score more than two goals during their first three games.

Right because Weiss has shown himself to be such an offensive dynamo... we've played well against tough opponents, I'm not surprised Babcock wants to at least see how this squad does against teams like Toronto before making changes.

 

[Cor]

In an attempt to get the rivalry between our two teams flowing again, I will attempt some talk of trash.

You guys, are less capable at ice hockey, than we are!

 

[Zetterbergs Beard]

In an attempt to get the rivalry between our two teams flowing again, I will attempt some talk of trash.

You guys, are less capable at ice hockey, than we are!

Now now, let's keep things respectful here.

Uh, whoever scores the most goals is going to win this game. Also, whoever gives up the fewest goals will win this game.

 

[ap3x]

Spoiler.

 

[JPE123]

Not hating on Joker at all. All I'm saying is give Weiss a chance with some talented guys, if it works out we have 3 solid scoring lines and a heck of a 4th line that would consist of Miller/Glendening-Helm-Abby. If it doesn't work out then by all means play other people instead of him.

I have always thought joker gets the max out of his ability. He has always worked hard. I just have a feeling the ceiling is kind of low

 

[DatsyukianDeke*]

Sportsnet Kypreos just said after Franzen, Nyqusit and Zetterberg the team has no identity.

He's obviously hasn't watched the kid line before, he will see it tonight.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Sportsnet Kypreos just said after Franzen, Nyqusit and Zetterberg the team has no identity.

He's obviously hasn't watched the kid line before, he will see it tonight.

Kypreos very rarely puts together a thought on hockey that I find intelligent.

Though I guess you could point out very few teams have an identity outside of their stars. Would put Kronwall way before Franzen in terms of team identity.

 

[DatsyukianDeke*]

Kypreos very rarely puts together a thought on hockey that I find intelligent.

Though I guess you could point out very few teams have an identity outside of their stars. Would put Kronwall way before Franzen in terms of team identity.

To me what he says just shows he doesn't really know what he's talking about, and knows literally nothing about the other team except for their star players. It's a joke that he is allowed to discuss Hockey on air, his only knowledge is on the Leafs.

 

[detredWINgs]

Sportsnet Kypreos just said after Franzen, Nyqusit and Zetterberg the team has no identity.

He's obviously hasn't watched the kid line before, he will see it tonight.

That's funny, because these days, it seems like Franzen and Zetterberg are the ones that don't really fit the team's identity.