GDT: Game #32 | Kings @ Leafs | 730PM TSN | #GoLeafsGo | #LupulsBack

[glg51*]

"McLaren"and "more ice time" should never be used in the same sentence
Seriously though, how does that help Holland succeed? Someone we gave up, which looks like a 2nd rounder for?
And when you're struggling to score, find energy, reduce penalty minutes, be better defensively.....how exactly does McLaren help?

Ashton is garbage. At least Maclaren doesn't launch pucks into the crowd. Blew the game against Boston big time.

 

[HeroNtF]

Ashton > mclaren

Orr and mclaren arnt providing any energy and arnt fighting. Ashton brings a huge amount of energy and is great on the forecheck.. yes offensive zone time !

 

[ShaneFalco]

And it doesn't even have to be Ashton. Bodie, Devane..... Leivo .....Broll, somebody! McLaren was fairly effective last year, but is doing nothing at all this year. I have no problem when the teamis winning having both Orr and Mclaren in there (although one would do), but when we've been struggling for so long, it's time to try something else RC!

 

[SprDaVE]

Ashton is garbage. At least Maclaren doesn't launch pucks into the crowd. Blew the game against Boston big time.

At least Asthon can skate, kill penalties and play more than 5 minutes a game before he is completely useless.

McLaren is a face puncher... that's it. He's barely hitting anybody either because he can't keep up with the play. I don't mind him playing his role but he hasn't played it this year. Ashton at least has a bit of potential and can play more than 5 minutes a game.

I can't believe some people actually prefer McLaren over Ashton. My god.

 

[ShaneFalco]

And RC has commented a few times the team looks tired. Well maybe if you had a 4th line that played more than 4 minutes a game that might help?

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Agreed. Ashton > Mclaren

 

[glg51*]

At least Asthon can skate, kill penalties and play more than 5 minutes a game before he is completely useless.

McLaren is a face puncher... that's it. He's barely hitting anybody either because he can't keep up with the play. I don't mind him playing his role but he hasn't played it this year. Ashton at least has a bit of potential and can play more than 5 minutes a game.

I can't believe some people actually prefer McLaren over Ashton. My god.

When the hell has Ashton killed penalties?

Thank god Ashton can skate! But yet hasn't figured out how to stick handle?

 

[BertCorbeau]

Would like:

JVR - Kadri - Kessel
Lupul - Holland - Clarkson
Raymond - Smith - Kulemin
Ashton - McClement - D'Amigo

 

[Suntouchable13]

I am hopeful that we have started to see Holland breaking out a little.

 

[SprDaVE]

When the hell has Ashton killed penalties?

Thank god Ashton can skate! But yet hasn't figured out how to stick handle?

And you think McLaren can? He can't even do a 2 foot pass before it becomes something that he's never done. Honestly.

Asthon can kill penalties. He hasn't been used that capacity much this season but has done in the past and is always a top notch PKer with the Marlies.

Ashton has almost twice as many hits as McLaren in almost the same amount of games. Barely a hit a game from the face puncher. For a supposed tough guy, we haven't seen anything from McLaren that is worth keeping around. If he isn't fighting or providing energy to the Leafs, why the hell is he playing? Orr at least can provide energy and physicality. McLaren is just gliding through like his job isn't in jeopardy and Carlyle keeps playing him for some stupid reason.

What a waste of a roster spot.

 

[zeke]

Looking for Lupul to step up and have an impact tonight. His loss has been underrated IMO.

Also love that McClement is back down to the 4th line, and both of the dominant AHL offensive centres Holland and Smith getting a chance to play on scoring lines.

With Lupul back, we have our 3 sets of scoring wingers back finally and should be able to ice 3-deep scoring lines now no matter who plays centre, so that should be a big help.

Unfortunately, Randy had a chance to finally ditch the goons and play an Ashton-McClement-D'amigo line which could have taken a legit regular shift, but he just couldn't kick his habit and had to dress McLaren regardles. Ah well.

Phaneuf will be missed but we're still icing 4 or 5 top-4 dman talents tonight so we should be able to fight through.

Despite what they did last night, the Kings are beatable. They usually struggle to score, so tonight will all be about whether we can get to Jones for 3+ goals....and with lupul back, and the kings on the backend of a back to back, we have a chance to.



best guess at the lineups:



Line 1

C N.Kadri (23): 27gms, 9gls, 20pts, 50ht, 13bk, 17:40 (82gms, 27gls, 61pts, 152ht, 40bk) - 43.8fo%
C A.Kopitar (26): 31gms, 9gls, 27pts, 40ht, 22bk, 21:33 (82gms, 24gls, 71pts, 106ht, 58bk) - 55.4fo%

W P.Kessel (26): 31gms, 16gls, 29pts, 14ht, 7bk, 19:53 (82gms, 42gls, 77pts, 37ht, 19bk)
W J.Carter (28): 21gms, 7gls, 12pts, 31ht, 14bk, 18:58 (82gms, 27gls, 47pts, 121ht, 55bk)

W J.VanRiemsdyk (24): 29gms, 13gls, 25pts, 60ht, 11bk, 20:47 (82gms, 37gls, 71pts, 170ht, 31bk)
W D.King (24): 31gms, 7gls, 11pts, 47ht, 7bk, 14:47 (82gms, 19gls, 29pts, 124ht, 19bk)

Line 2

C P.Holland (22): 13gms, 3gls, 4pts, 15ht, 7bk, 9:56 (82gms, 19gls, 25pts, 95ht, 44bk) - 41.9fo%
C M.Richards (28): 31gms, 6gls, 25pts, 23ht, 10bk, 18:05 (82gms, 16gls, 66pts, 61ht, 27bk) - 54.8fo%

W J.Lupul (30): 22gms, 8gls, 15pts, 37ht, 8bk, 18:18 (82gms, 30gls, 56pts, 138ht, 30bk)
W T.Toffoli (21): 17gms, 8gls, 14pts, 13ht, 3bk, 12:58 (82gms, 39gls, 68pts, 63ht, 15bk)

W N.Kulemin (27): 19gms, 2gls, 6pts, 40ht, 20bk, 15:21 (82gms, 9gls, 26pts, 173ht, 86bk)
W J.Nolan (24): 24gms, 4gls, 5pts, 42ht, 2bk, 8:55 (82gms, 14gls, 17pts, 144ht, 7bk)

Line 3

C T.Smith (28): 20gms, 4gls, 8pts, 38ht, 14bk, 11:01 (82gms, 16gls, 33pts, 156ht, 57bk) - 45.4fo%
C J.Stoll (31): 27gms, 3gls, 10pts, 66ht, 18bk, 14:58 (82gms, 9gls, 27pts, 200ht, 55bk) - 54.1fo%

W M.Raymond (28): 31gms, 10gls, 19pts, 16ht, 8bk, 18:18 (82gms, 27gls, 50pts, 42ht, 21bk)
W J.Williams (32): 31gms, 11gls, 22pts, 14ht, 8bk, 17:36 (82gms, 29gls, 58pts, 37ht, 21bk)

W D.Clarkson (29): 21gms, 2gls, 6pts, 63ht, 13bk, 17:10 (82gms, 8gls, 23pts, 246ht, 51bk)
W D.Brown (29): 31gms, 6gls, 11pts, 112ht, 5bk, 17:21 (82gms, 16gls, 29pts, 296ht, 13bk)

Line 4

C J.McClem (30): 30gms, 1gls, 3pts, 49ht, 17bk, 16:43 (82gms, 3gls, 8pts, 134ht, 47bk) - 53.3fo%
C C.Fraser (28): 16gms, 0gls, 1pts, 26ht, 8bk, 8:54 (82gms, 0gls, 5pts, 133ht, 41bk) - 58.9fo%

W J.D'Amigo (22): 3gms, 0gls, 0pts, 5ht, 0bk, 5:45 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 137ht, 0bk)
W K.Clifford (22): 23gms, 2gls, 4pts, 62ht, 4bk, 9:52 (82gms, 7gls, 14pts, 221ht, 14bk)

W F.McLaren (26): 15gms, 0gls, 0pts, 17ht, 3bk, 4:34 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 93ht, 16bk)
W D.Carcillo (28): 22gms, 1gls, 2pts, 43ht, 7bk, 9:58 (82gms, 4gls, 8pts, 160ht, 26bk)



Pair 1

D C.Franson (26): 29gms, 0gls, 14pts, 98ht, 47bk, 21:03 (82gms, 0gls, 40pts, 277ht, 133bk)
D D.Doughty (24): 31gms, 5gls, 15pts, 66ht, 23bk, 25:52 (82gms, 13gls, 40pts, 175ht, 61bk)

D C.Gunnar (27): 31gms, 0gls, 2pts, 61ht, 74bk, 20:04 (82gms, 0gls, 5pts, 161ht, 196bk)
D J.Muzzin (24): 26gms, 2gls, 12pts, 51ht, 19bk, 18:55 (82gms, 6gls, 38pts, 161ht, 60bk)

Pair 2

D J.Gardiner (23): 30gms, 1gls, 9pts, 40ht, 26bk, 21:02 (82gms, 3gls, 25pts, 109ht, 71bk)
D S.Voynov (23): 31gms, 3gls, 12pts, 53ht, 28bk, 21:30 (82gms, 8gls, 32pts, 140ht, 74bk)

D J.Liles (33): 2gms, 0gls, 0pts, 4ht, 4bk, 17:34 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 164ht, 164bk)
D R.Regehr (33): 31gms, 0gls, 4pts, 86ht, 34bk, 19:21 (82gms, 0gls, 11pts, 228ht, 90bk)

Pair 3

D P.Ranger (29): 28gms, 1gls, 7pts, 63ht, 36bk, 19:06 (82gms, 3gls, 21pts, 185ht, 105bk)
D W.Mitchell (36): 31gms, 0gls, 4pts, 40ht, 51bk, 20:26 (82gms, 0gls, 11pts, 106ht, 135bk)

D M.Fraser (27): 15gms, 0gls, 1pts, 51ht, 43bk, 15:03 (82gms, 0gls, 6pts, 279ht, 235bk)
D A.Martinez (26): 21gms, 1gls, 4pts, 31ht, 21bk, 15:13 (82gms, 4gls, 16pts, 121ht, 82bk)



Starting Goalies

G J.Bernier (25): 20gms, 9-8-2, 2.49gaa, 1so, .929sv%
G M.Jones (23): 3gms, 3-0-0, 0.65gaa, 2so, .973sv%

Backup Goalies

G J.Reimer (25): 14gms, 7-4-1, 2.63gaa, 1so, .932sv%
G B.Scrivens (27): 15gms, 7-2-4, 1.56gaa, 3so, .943sv%



Unavailable

C T.Bozak (27): 16gms, 4gls, 11pts, 27ht, 16bk, 21:04 (82gms, 21gls, 56pts, 138ht, 82bk) - 46.0fo%
C D.Bolland (27): 15gms, 6gls, 10pts, 26ht, 9bk, 16:15 (82gms, 33gls, 55pts, 142ht, 49bk) - 41.3fo%
W C.Orr (31): 26gms, 0gls, 0pts, 59ht, 6bk, 6:13 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 186ht, 19bk)
D D.Phaneuf (28): 31gms, 2gls, 12pts, 79ht, 68bk, 24:13 (82gms, 5gls, 32pts, 209ht, 180bk)

C T.Lewis (26): 23gms, 0gls, 0pts, 41ht, 14bk, 14:07 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 146ht, 50bk) - 50.5fo%
D M.Greene (30): 15gms, 2gls, 3pts, 47ht, 29bk, 16:51 (82gms, 11gls, 16pts, 257ht, 159bk)
G J.Quick (27): 16gms, 10-5-0, 2.46gaa, 1so, .905sv%

 

[glg51*]

And you think McLaren can? He can't even do a 2 foot pass before it becomes something that he's never done. Honestly.

Asthon can kill penalties. He hasn't been used that capacity much this season but has done in the past and is always a top notch PKer with the Marlies.

Ashton has almost twice as many hits as McLaren in almost the same amount of games. Barely a hit a game from the face puncher. For a supposed tough guy, we haven't seen anything from McLaren that is worth keeping around. If he isn't fighting or providing energy to the Leafs, why the hell is he playing?

What a waste of a roster spot.

I can say the same thing too, considering Maclaren has killed penalties before sometime in his career.

Although Maclaren is slow as ****, at least he can handle a puck.

Skill-wise they are a wash....Maclaren brings the toughness though.

In conclusion, they both suck, just Maclaren sucks less.

 

[LAKings88]

Jones is probably starting for LA because he posted two shut outs in a row and is hot right now. He has earned it.

LOL at the argument that it is all the Kings system, Quick is an all world goalie who has carried LA for awhile. Scrivens has been stellar as a back up and made some big saves. Jones is a big talented youngster. System is a part of it but not the whole story.

Good luck tonight! Not too much tho.

 

[SprDaVE]

I can say the same thing too, considering Maclaren has killed penalties before sometime in his career.

Although Maclaren is slow as ****, at least he can handle a puck.

Skill-wise they are a wash....Maclaren brings the toughness though.

In conclusion, they both suck, just Maclaren sucks less.

McLaren cannot handle a puck better than Ashton. That is hilarious to even suggest. McLaren can't even skate more than 1 feet with the puck because he sucks so bad. Can't make a pass, can't skate and can't hit.

The only thing McLaren does better than Ashton is being able to fight big guys. That's it. The rest of what Ashton does is far superior in everything.

I'll leave at that I guess because this is asinine. It'll be exciting to watch McLaren do absolutely nothing tonight again, while the 22 year old sits for no reason.

 

[ACC1224]

Pretty sure the game starts at 730.

 

[glg51*]

McLaren cannot handle a puck better than Ashton. That is hilarious to even suggest. McLaren can't even skate more than 1 feet with the puck because he sucks so bad. Can't make a pass, can't skate and can't hit.

The only thing McLaren does better than Ashton is being able to fight big guys. That's it. The rest Ashton does is far superior in everything.

I'll leave at that I guess because this is asinine. It'll be exciting to watch McLaren do absolutely nothing tonight again, while the 22 year old sits for no reason.

Forget Maclaren, I can stick handle better than Ashton. It's embarrassing watching him handle the puck.

 

[SprDaVE]

Forget Maclaren, I can stick handle better than Ashton. It's embarrassing watching him handle the puck.

My grandmother can skate faster than McLaren.

 

[glg51*]

My grandmother can skate faster than McLaren.

Good one, except I was dead serious.

 

[SprDaVE]

Good one, except I was dead serious.

I am too.

Come to think of it, I think Jamie Allison is faster than McLaren.

 

[glg51*]

I am too.

Come to think of it, I think Jamie Allison is faster than McLaren.

Jason Allison is a jet.

 

[TootooTrain]

I can say the same thing too, considering Maclaren has killed penalties before sometime in his career.

Although Maclaren is slow as ****, at least he can handle a puck.

Skill-wise they are a wash....Maclaren brings the toughness though.

In conclusion, they both suck, just Maclaren sucks less.

This is a joke right? Ashton has been forced into a 4th line role with the leafs. He's been a skilled top 6 winger who can play the wall everywhere he's been. His puck retrieval skills are quite evident that there's more there.

 

[William Hylander]

Jones is probably starting for LA because he posted two shut outs in a row and is hot right now. He has earned it.

LOL at the argument that it is all the Kings system, Quick is an all world goalie who has carried LA for awhile. Scrivens has been stellar as a back up and made some big saves. Jones is a big talented youngster. System is a part of it but not the whole story.

Good luck tonight! Not too much tho.

No, I think it is the system. Look at the combined record and Sv% of the goalies. I'm guessing it is tops in the NHL? You are suggesting that the best goalies in the league (or among them) are Ben Scrivens and Jones?

 

[King85Kong]

Jones is probably starting for LA because he posted two shut outs in a row and is hot right now. He has earned it.

LOL at the argument that it is all the Kings system, Quick is an all world goalie who has carried LA for awhile. Scrivens has been stellar as a back up and made some big saves. Jones is a big talented youngster. System is a part of it but not the whole story.

Good luck tonight! Not too much tho.

It's amazing how much Scrivens has improved in one off season ;-)

 

[Glenn Isildur Healy]

This is a joke right? Ashton has been forced into a 4th line role with the leafs. He's been a skilled top 6 winger who can play the wall everywhere he's been. His puck retrieval skills are quite evident that there's more there.

Yeah no. 53 games and 19 points with the Marlies last season. He was never a big time scorer

He will never be a top 6 forward in NHL. Maybe he can develop into a top 6 in the AHL

 

[Mr Scarface*]

Prediction and a suspicion: I don't believe M.Jones is starting for the L.A Kings tonight before I see him between the pipes myself.

Sutter is known of toying with media and people like a true old school cat. He is trying to fool Carlyle and the Leafs, but maybe this doesn't work for his advantage.

If M.Jones truly is playing tonight, then it means the L.A kings are throwing this game away and giving it to the Leafs. Then it's a deal done for certainly.