WingedWheel1987
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Defense looks like the love child between Helen Keller and Ray Charles.
Kyle Quincey is a joke.
Kyle Quincey is a joke.
Defense looks like the love child between Helen Keller and Ray Charles.
Kyle Quincey is a joke.
agreeBecause for a guy like Jagr to score, you need some speed, energy, and a decent offensive defenseman to get him the puck? This isn't rocket science.
agreeHagelin and Kreider don't do much for me, personally. I don't think Nash, Richards and Callahan are going to carry you past the Bruins, Pens or Flyers. But Torts is a good coach so maybe.
trueTonight's game in a nutshell:
agree
STL played NYR last season, and dominated them. 4-1, and outshot NYR by a fairly big margin.
imo, it is definitely worse than 0-8 and 2-8 losses to nashville and CBJ in '09, or 0-6 loss to NYI in '10, or 3-10 loss to STL in '11 b/c i still was confident DRW were good enough to be competitive.
this loss is so bad b/c it could be foreshadowing.
Perhaps the most regular season disappointing Wings game I can recall.
Blues add one more pretty good Dman and they are my cup favs
Everyone kvetching about our defense. How many shots on goal did the Wings get?
That's the D's fault too, right?
et tu, Fugu?
Blues basically had four skaters and their goalie parked in their crease the whole night with one guy doing circles at the Wings' blue line.
Any offense is going to have a hard time breaking through that kind of shell. Including the slow/disinterested/disjointed offense the Wings appear to currently have.
et tu, Fugu?
Blues basically had four skaters and their goalie parked in their crease the whole night with one guy doing circles at the Wings' blue line.
Any offense is going to have a hard time breaking through that kind of shell. Including the slow/disinterested/disjointed offense the Wings appear to currently have.
F's sucked ass, too, but taking only 14 shots is partly the d-men's fault. they could barely get out of the defensive zone, and looked confused generally. plus teams generally lose morale and play worse when they're losing 4-0.Everyone kvetching about our defense. How many shots on goal did the Wings get?
That's the D's fault too, right?
Can't say I'm surprised they lost, generally speaking. I mean, it is the first game after a half season long lockout.
That said, Tarasenko? Wow. 91 suits him.
Blues just look fast, gritty, great offensive pressure and puck movement. That's a very good team.
Our top forwards looked average, at best.
Why would their D come out and do anything else when they know our forwards are just going to skate around the perimeter? At least when you had Homer, they had an excuse to stay parked there.
STL played NYR last season, and dominated them. 4-1, and outshot NYR by a fairly big margin.
F's sucked ass, too, but taking only 14 shots is partly the d-men's fault. they could barely get out of the defensive zone, and looked confused generally. plus teams generally lose morale and play worse when they're losing 4-0.
They definitely came out flat and stayed that way, both the forwards and the D, there's no debating that.
I think Babcock will do what he can to light a fire under the forwards in the games ahead, but there's no amount of lipstick that will make that pig of a defense look good. If anything, telling them to play harder will only make them worse.
Not so fast! I think the Wings were pumped to get the season started. I expect that they can and will play much worse once the doldrums of the season get underway. This team is the worst Wings team iced since the 80's. At this pace they will be out of the playoff hunt in 2 weeks.That was as bad as it gets.
No, I'm not going to give the forwards a pass for a lack of any effort, creativity or anything. There were two guys who looked like they even knew there was a game-- Dats and Brunner at various points.
I mean, you had 4 forwards on the PP units. You gonna blame that on the defense too?
At the end of the day, you can blame the poor defense on the forwards for lack of defensive play and helping the D. Or you can blame the D, as you did, for the lack of offense.
The real answer may be that they have to find a new system or style that may work for a Wings team w/o Lidstrom, Stuart, Rafalski, and a prime Z, Dats et al. I also think we have a rather disjointed set of personnel that's not really suited to the puck possession style of play, nor something that Babs might prefer. It's like the purgatory in between heaven and hell.