Galchenyuk - The 'Can the Habs Develop a #1 Center?' Edition

[Canadienna]

Weren't we 11-1-1 with Chucky at centre, and DD over with Eller as a winger........and then MT switched him out?? He said Chucky was more comfortable at the wing, but it was just MT wanting DD back at centre?? Is this correct?

It is correct. But people including management seem to think this was a fluke.

Only one way to tell. Give the kid another shot at #1 Center.

 

[Ghetto Sangria]

I don't think the Habs are a real cup contender, not against the likes of TB, NYR, Anaheim, and Chicago, and even though there may be a trending upward, that upward is not as upward as other teams. In other words, compared to other trending teams, it is no more than standing still.

Well the only samples we have against those teams would be the New York series without our best player last season and the Tampa series this year... and while the habs lost because they failed to capitalize on their chances (evidence of a lack of finish), they were able to compete against a so called "contender" and didn't seem far off it not equal.

The habs need to improve their scoring touch much like tampa needs to improve their speed on defense. No team is perfect. Even Chicago lacked defensive depth, yet were able to overcome it by playing with essentially 4 defensemen.

 

[Kriss E]

Larionov was joined by the media and answered their questions. In the end, Galchenyuk admitted what Larionov said "proved him he was right going in another direction", and all Larionov suggested is that Galchenyuk didn't follow his advice, which basically was "Shut up, be patient and play hockey".

Wow...so surprising Galchenyuk didn't stick with that..
Just out of curiosity, how long has Larionov been saying that to him??
Apparently Galchenyuk was calling him regularly, so was Larionov just repeating the same crap for a year?? What did he do for his client?

Larionov shouldn't have said what he said.

But really, blaming the coach? "But DD got the toy and I didn't!!!"

Man up, learn how to skate and get stronger.

Yeah I don't care for the coach that much either, but look at yourself first. You were pathetic in the last 30-40 games of the season. Put it on yourself to make it impossible to choose other players before you. It's pretty sad that it got to the point that Torrey Mitchell on the ice made me far more comfortable.

You're talking about a coach that opted to put Douglas freaking Murray or Frankie B over PK Subban when we had leads at the end of the games. You realize this right?

Therrien has been absolutely terrible at managing his roster. Just terrible.

 

[Saundies]

Wow...so surprising Galchenyuk didn't stick with that..
Just out of curiosity, how long has Larionov been saying that to him??
Apparently Galchenyuk was calling him regularly, so was Larionov just repeating the same crap for a year?? What did he do for his client?



You're talking about a coach that opted to put Douglas freaking Murray or Frankie B over PK Subban when we had leads at the end of the games. You realize this right?

Therrien has been absolutely terrible at managing his roster. Just terrible.

People still don't remember that Raphael freaking Diaz played over PK Subban for a month during the year that PK won his Norris. The only reason Subban was moved back into the top 2 pairings was because Diaz got hurt and Therrien had no other choice.

 

[habalifeok]

Maybe Galchenyuk gets reunited with Yakupov...... in Edmonton. Then he can sit and watch a generational player. No idea what the return would be but it could be interesting to say the least. Then you could really play the what ifs game.

 

[teh doors]

Wow...so surprising Galchenyuk didn't stick with that..
Just out of curiosity, how long has Larionov been saying that to him??
Apparently Galchenyuk was calling him regularly, so was Larionov just repeating the same crap for a year?? What did he do for his client?



You're talking about a coach that opted to put Douglas freaking Murray or Frankie B over PK Subban when we had leads at the end of the games. You realize this right?

Therrien has been absolutely terrible at managing his roster. Just terrible.

ew, bouillon

Why does therrien ever have these **** players at his disposal to begin with

Bouillon was the worst player on the team mid 00's and one of the top 3 worst habs d men of the decade after Patrick traverse (he is the 1st and 2nd), why was he even back here to begin with

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Pat Brisson is officially the new agent

 

[OnTheRun]

Maybe Galchenyuk gets reunited with Yakupov...... in Edmonton. Then he can sit and watch a generational player. No idea what the return would be but it could be interesting to say the least. Then you could really play the what ifs game.

Therrien need to go back to l'Antichambre before we start doing more trade to accommodate him...

ew, bouillon

Why does therrien ever have these **** players at his disposal to begin with

Bouillon was the worst player on the team mid 00's and one of the top 3 worst habs d men of the decade after Patrick traverse (he is the 1st and 2nd), why was he even back here to begin with

Because Therrien wanted him.

 

[Kriss E]

Sometimes, what makes a GM great is the deal he didn't sign.....for instance Ryan Clowe, or David Clarkson, or Benoit Pouliot....I can go on and on and on with these stupid long term high dollar deals for aging declining players. Bergevin understands this and has yet to cripple his team or bent under the pressure of its fan base...especially in the hockey Mecca of the world.
He's overpaid for young players like Emelin and Eller, but these guys were signed at a young age while their contracts will terminate before they hit 30-31. It was a miss calculation yes, but the players are not declining, they've merely just plateau'd. He's not perfect, no GM is, but his pros out way his cons by a country mile...NHL GM's and hockey Canada know this, only here do you see people bashing our GM for they have the hockey vision of a mouse, many people don't get the BIG PICTURE

Not making obvious mistakes isn't what makes a GM great. That's a requisite.
Bend under the pressure? No one wanted us to sign these guys to these terrible contracts, and Bergevin has had a very smooth ride since he was hired.
The media has been on his side and never confronted him about anything. This year was the first time they brought up a possible issue with the center position and he looked like a twit saying Thornton was the last center traded and this isn't Playstation. He's right though, maybe he should spend less time on his PS and come back to reality where Thornton ISN'T the last top center to have been traded.

And after that, the Therrien question was brought up and Bergevin looked like he was about to cry. He acted incredibly surprised that anybody would be doubting the oh-so-great Therrien but somehow he had a bunch of stats ready to defend his coach.
It was beyond lame.

Bergevin had no pressure. He came in and said there was a lot of work to do, it was going to take some time. Team finished higher than probably everybody imagined. The following year, we finished high again and went to CF, so again, no pressure on him.
This year, we finished 2nd in the East, but then early exit. We finished the season with Weise having played regularly on the top 6 and no winger was brought in to help. Team had issues scoring 2 goals in the POs, and the PP has been terrible for 2 years in a row now. The guy he drafted and repeatedly said he's the future center of this team, well, he's still playing wing and ended on a bad note.
So finally, some issues were raised, and he didn't handle things well at all.

 

[David Suzuki]

with brisson as his agent 100 percent change he re-signs

 

[WeThreeKings]

with brisson as his agent 100 percent change he re-signs

What does brisson do that changes anything

 

[Habs 4 Life]

Pat Brisson is officially the new agent

Now he will try to compare himself to Crosby!!!

 

[shawdowmaker]

Galchenyuk was poorly used and coached last year IMO this was evident by the way he looked lost and completely out of wack at times. How do you explain him being removed from the first line for DD? Let's see he had a couple of defensive break downs. [a young player] other then that he looked pretty good. Instead of addressing the real issue MT and MB would rather sacrifice good players like Sekac.
The issue I m talking about is DD being given special privileges at the detriment of the team.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

What does brisson do that changes anything

Well he is French and loves the Habs duh

 

[Monctonscout]

Francois Gagnon ‏@GagnonFrancois · 3m3 minutes ago
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Dans le cas de Galchenyuk je m'attends à un contrat de transition qui devrait osciller entre 5 et 6 millions pour deux ans #CH

Gagnon sees him signing a 2 year bridge deal at5-6 mil total.

I think that might be a bit low...my guess is 6.5-7 over 2 years. 3.5-4 mil cap hit.

 

[Hullois]

Well looks like than random girl that posts on 25stanley has credibility when it comes to Galchenyuk..

 

[teh doors]

Just play him on the off wing, get DD the F off the power play, and show him endless clips of Kovalev in the offensive zone

 

[LaP]

Well looks like than random girl that posts on 25stanley has credibility when it comes to Galchenyuk..

Dunno. She also said AG did not fire Larionov but the contract between the 2 was over and AG decided to sign a new contract with Brisson.

If it's true that he did not even fire him but just did not extend the contract between the 2 it makes Larionov and Pulver look ever more amateurish imo.

 

[BLONG7]

Just play him on the off wing, get DD the F off the power play, and show him endless clips of Kovalev in the offensive zone

Da coach, is not dat smart...

 

[Kriss E]

People still don't remember that Raphael freaking Diaz played over PK Subban for a month during the year that PK won his Norris. The only reason Subban was moved back into the top 2 pairings was because Diaz got hurt and Therrien had no other choice.

Yup, and PK was used on the 2nd PP wave.
But to me, Murray over a Norris winner is just utterly inexplicable. It's insane. It would be like favoring Tokarski over Price. It shows how terrible your coach is at evaluating your players. Sending a message by doing it once, fine, but that wasn't the case. Therrien regularly did that.

 

[Mario le Magnifique]

I'm not blasting the GM, I'm just not giving him as much credit as some do.

I totally agree that Patches' contract is great for the team, but that's mostly because Patches accepted to sign it, knowing very well that there were ways for him to get more. He just took the risk-free approach after suffering an injury.

That's not as much on the GM as it is on the player. All I'm saying.

If a UFA star calls the GM and tells him he's ready to sign a cheap contract with the team, who's to praise there? The GM or the player?

I might look like a contrarian there, but I'm just trying to have a broader perspective. A lot of guys here have a management-centric view on everything and it just doesn't work like that, especially not in the NHL.

Patches was coming out of a career ending injury and had also a bunch of other smaller injuries (appendicites, wrist, Ribs) and was a big risk to sign long term. In an interview he said he was so thankful to MB and the Habs that believed in him, and that the term was more important than money at that time for his wife and him, to get stability.

Dont drag Patches deal in this because it's hardly a good comparison.

 

[Monctonscout]

ew, bouillon

Why does therrien ever have these **** players at his disposal to begin with

Bouillon was the worst player on the team mid 00's and one of the top 3 worst habs d men of the decade after Patrick traverse (he is the 1st and 2nd), why was he even back here to begin with

Not sure where you get your facts. Bouillon was very solid in a 3rd pairing role. He also brought some strong leadership to a pretty young d-core.

People still don't remember that Raphael freaking Diaz played over PK Subban for a month during the year that PK won his Norris. The only reason Subban was moved back into the top 2 pairings was because Diaz got hurt and Therrien had no other choice.

The facts don't match your story. Subban's minutes were lower to begin, probably partly due to him being 2-3 weeks behind everybody else, after that he played about 24 minutes a game. He finished the year at 23:15

 

[shawdowmaker]

Dunno. She also said AG did not fire Larionov but the contract between the 2 was over and AG decided to sign a new contract with Brisson.

If it's true that he did not even fire him but just did not extend the contract between the 2 it makes Larionov and Pulver look ever more amateurish imo.

Larionov said he doesn't listend to advice therefore what's the use Anyways! He was fired.

 

[SakuSauce]

That's DD's agent!

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Not sure where you get your facts. Bouillon was very solid in a 3rd pairing role. He also brought some strong leadership to a pretty young d-core.

Yeee-aah. Okay.

On that note this thread is now fired and the new one is up. Cheers!