Post-Game Talk: G9: Not-Charas @ The Fighting Charas | 1/30/21 | 7p ET

[kicksavedave]

VV is just playing the Holtby game. Stand on your head when you have to. Give up soft goals when they are free. Get the W.
The league in general is pretty sloppy right now and a lot of his goals against are not on him. He's better than Samsonov right now and for me is as good as I was hoping we would see from Sammy.

I think the team is a whole lot better than we were thinking and I think the kid is a treat.

I've noticed he has had a higher than normal share of goals going on off two of his own teammates, really unlucky bounces. Those things tend to even themselves out over the course of the season. Like to see his GAA come down a bit but I think it will over times.

Easy for some other people to forget, he hasn't played 10 NHL games yet. Lets let the kid settle in some more.

 

[twabby]

Vanecek has given up only 10 goals on 12.71 expected goals against at 5v5 and is sporting a cool .946 at 5v5. That'll do just fine for now.

 

[txpd]

I've noticed he has had a higher than normal share of goals going on off two of his own teammates, really unlucky bounces. Those things tend to even themselves out over the course of the season. Like to see his GAA come down a bit but I think it will over times.

Easy for some other people to forget, he hasn't played 10 NHL games yet. Lets let the kid settle in some more.

I think we expected too much from Samsonov and just had him pegged for a top goalie and had Vanecek pegged as a career minor leaguer. Teams are often as much about chemistry as anything. It might be that VV is the round peg for a round hole.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

The best ability is availability and Sammy has not been around for almost 2 seasons

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

T-2nd in W
T-20th in Sv%
29th in GAA
4th in TOI

wonder how that compares to Holtby....

 

[ovikovy817]

Just noticed he's wearing a Lokomotiv patch on his chest protector.

He's wearing it almost for 10 years.

 

[Calicaps]

He's wearing it almost for 10 years.

Did he have anyone close on that flight, do you know?

 

[Carlzner]

Vanecek has given up only 10 goals on 12.71 expected goals against at 5v5 and is sporting a cool .946 at 5v5. That'll do just fine for now.

A few more games of this & he’ll finally be an AHL starter caliber goalie

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

A few more games of this & he’ll finally be an AHL starter caliber goalie

don’t get ahead of yourself....

 

[ovikovy817]

Did he have anyone close on that flight, do you know?

Not that close but he played against/with some guys in juniors

+ the russian (hockey) solidarity.
For example I know that Malkin had/has a bracelet with "RIP Lokomotiv" on it.

 

[francaisvolantsparis]

A few more games of this & he’ll finally be an AHL starter caliber goalie

At 26yo? I am not sure. If he was 22 and had 20+ games with highest NHL Sv% like Samsonov did last year. May be. But at his 22 VV was playing with his ****. No way he has any developpment margin.

 

[HTFN]

At 26yo? I am not sure. If he was 22 and had 20+ games with highest NHL Sv% like Samsonov did last year. May be. But at his 22 VV was playing with his ****. No way he has any developpment margin.

You don't know how goalies develop and that's funny to me.

to be clear: Vanacek is "behind" the arc of top prospects, but no goaltender is capped out at 26.

 

[Roshi]

At 26yo? I am not sure. If he was 22 and had 20+ games with highest NHL Sv% like Samsonov did last year. May be. But at his 22 VV was playing with his ****. No way he has any developpment margin.

You really think goalies peak at 26?

23-26 is pretty standard age to break out for NHL, and keep getting better fromt that point on. Rinne, Binnington, Lundqvist, Holtby etc etc etc. Then there are guys like Tim Thomas who were on their 30+ to break through.

Vanecek also didnt just come out of nowhere as an ECHL goalie. Caps has had the luxury of having really solid positional strength at G. Holtby, Grubauer and the heralded prospect in Sammy. Vanecek outplayed Samsonov in AHL last year, and is a two-time AHL allstars-select. He has been doing good developement year by year and would have had his 20 games on some other organizations by now. And he was a high 2nd round draft pick too, after all. All 17 picks later than Samsonov. Caps traded up to draft him.

Did quick math to amuse myself. 37/62 top2 goalies from active rosters had not played 20 games when they were 22 years old (not 100% of the accuracy, it was a really quick check up). So over half of the goalies are garbage who dont have any future in the league?

 

[Aliceanna]

Did he have anyone close on that flight, do you know?

Ovi had been 2005 WJC teammates with Alexander Galimov--the one player who survived the crash, but was severely burned and died due to his injuries a few days later. Ovi tweeted encouraging (and heartbreaking) messages to him to hang on before he passed away.

 

[Calicaps]

Ovi had been 2005 WJC teammates with Alexander Galimov--the one player who survived the crash, but was severely burned and died due to his injuries a few days later. Ovi tweeted encouraging (and heartbreaking) messages to him to hang on before he passed away.

 

[kicksavedave]

I think we expected too much from Samsonov and just had him pegged for a top goalie and had Vanecek pegged as a career minor leaguer. Teams are often as much about chemistry as anything. It might be that VV is the round peg for a round hole.

I think expectations are realistically high for Sammy, he was a rare first round pick goalie, its normal for us to expect a lot from him... What we missed maybe is the timing, he's been on a fast rise since coming to North America, and he's still learning the language for cripes sake, and he's hit some maturity speed bumps lately. I'd just caution us all from writing his final chapter just yet. Like a lot of good goalies, when he's on, he's dynamite. He just needs to learn how to be a professional and focus on being on most all of the time.

 

[txpd]

I think expectations are realistically high for Sammy, he was a rare first round pick goalie, its normal for us to expect a lot from him... What we missed maybe is the timing, he's been on a fast rise since coming to North America, and he's still learning the language for cripes sake, and he's hit some maturity speed bumps lately. I'd just caution us all from writing his final chapter just yet. Like a lot of good goalies, when he's on, he's dynamite. He just needs to learn how to be a professional and focus on being on most all of the time.

I meant expectations for today/right now. Might he be legit with time to grow up? Sure. We are talking about this season. This season where the learning can be expensive to the team.

Maybe they are pushing him too fast and that is a reason why he is having maturity problems. You know?

 

[Midnight Judges]

Vanacek has been OK but I'm not real sure why people are ranting and raving when this team has a 3 GA/GP average.

Championship teams generally playing better defense than that.

 

[stanleycaps18]

@strungout called this one perfectly.

4-3 Caps, OT

Playoffs




That one?