News Article: Friedman's 31 Thoughts (Habs Pursuing Dubois)

[Jee]

KK , Cole, #1
That is plenty

It's more than plenty... Dubois has definitely more value than KK, but not THAT much. Dubois' had the luxury to play with Panarin for a full season only to have 60 points.

 

[sampollock]

That would do it

I hope to god it doesn't happen, but if anything did, it would look like this

Agreed,
But guys Cole has not played with big boys yet,
KK has, and our #1 is who knows

A 6.2. 220 lb centre that is awesome

 

[Ozmodiar]

Agreed,
But guys Cole has not played with big boys yet,
KK has, and our #1 is who knows

A 6.2. 220 lb centre that is awesome

change the 1st or CC to Byron.

needed for the Cap anyway.

CC or 1st should be enough to compensate for the 2 years of development. Add miscellany if they ask, but no past or future 1sts. (one of mete, mysak, Ylonen, etc)

 

[Runner77]

KK , Cole, #1
That is plenty

It's not about what's plenty as that's a subjective qualifier, it's all about what the GM is able to negotiate. You never know how these things turn out.

However, if you want to look at it from the perspective of most Habs fans, maybe a lot in here might go for that.

 

[Runner77]

God I dislike Jack Todd and his shit attitude

He's pathetic and subhuman but his little shakedown actually worked in that Twitter exchange.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

He's pathetic and subhuman but his little shakedown actually worked in that Twitter exchange.

Yeah I'm not a fan of the Gazette crew but he was pretty savage there

 

[Redux91]

Agreed,
But guys Cole has not played with big boys yet,
KK has, and our #1 is who knows

A 6.2. 220 lb centre that is awesome

If I myself was the habs GM, I don't make that deal
If I was the columbus GM, I absolutely make that deal

 

[dcyhabs]

Not to mention when Gainey traded for Gomez.

 

[Jee]

Not to mention when Gainey traded for Gomez.

your point being.. ?

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

I’d only do it if Danault is the #3C going forward but if Claude will do that then give KK a shot at #2C now or do we need Muller back to make that switch.

 

[dcyhabs]

your point being.. ?

Don't count on the position of weakness impacting the trade. Sather desperately wanted to get Gomez gone, would probably have taken nothing straight up, still won the trade. Tampa wanted Drouin gone, still got Sergachev. Habs were shopping Paccioretty, still came out of it well.

As long as Columbus gets more than one person bidding they'll get value.

 

[tazsub3]

Don't count on the position of weakness impacting the trade. Sather desperately wanted to get Gomez gone, would probably have taken nothing straight up, still won the trade. Tampa wanted Drouin gone, still got Sergachev. Habs were shopping Paccioretty, still came out of it well.

As long as Columbus gets more than one person bidding they'll get value.

Though we traded them domi for anderson, after the playoffs domi had. So for once i like our chances.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

That would do it

I hope to god it doesn't happen, but if anything did, it would look like this

id put a top 5 protected , anyways the draft this year is said to be really weak. Wouldnt mind

 

[CapSpace]

Why the hell would we give KK CC and a 1st, so 3 x 1st for a 0.67ppg guy who wants out of his team at 22 yo?

 

[Runner77]

I’d only do it if Danault is the #3C going forward but if Claude will do that then give KK a shot at #2C now or do we need Muller back to make that switch.

If it wasn't scribbled on Claude's notepad, it's not happening.

 

[Habs]

Why the hell would we give KK CC and a 1st, so 3 x 1st for a 0.67ppg guy who wants out of his team at 22 yo?

Because you have to give up talent, to get it?

 

[JianYang]

I hate to base things on one game, but KK really opened my eyes in the season opener in terms of his speed. He looked dangerous as well.

Let's wait a few games and see if KK brings this level on a consistent basis. If so, I'm not particularly keen on trading him either.

 

[Matthew McConaughay]

Trade Kotkaniemi but not caufield.

 

[ECWHSWI]

Lol piss the season away. If downgrading from KK to Poehling for 5-7 games and then upgrading from Poehling to PLD for the next 45 pisses the season away, your team has far bigger issues.

No one would be this apocalyptic if KK got a two week injury. People are just sensationalizing the quarantine aspect of this trade.

you think KK would be enough to get PLD... lol

 

[ECWHSWI]

Let's be honest, the Habs can afford to play without KK for 5-7 games it means we're getting PLD for many years to come. We would still have Suzuki/Danault as top centers and that's fine.

for KK...

 

[McGuires Corndog]

I hate to base things on one game, but KK really opened my eyes in the season opener in terms of his speed. He looked dangerous as well.

Let's wait a few games and see if KK brings this level on a consistent basis. If so, I'm not particularly keen on trading him either.

He put up 34pts in 79 games as an 18 year old. People are hung up on his poor season last year, but it’s really not uncommon. The term sophomore slump exists for a reason. I though he looked great in Laval, looked like he made great progress in the bubble and he came on at the end in Europe during the offseason.

I think his floor is pretty high, and not too far off from PLD’s career average up to now.

I think PLD is a safer bet to reach his ceiling though, so it’s a matter of how high you think KK can go and whether you feel comfortable giving up additional assets. It’s a gamble IMO.

 

[le_sean]

you think KK would be enough to get PLD... lol

No obviously there would be more pieces. But nothing else significant on the current roster.

 

[ECWHSWI]

No obviously there would be more pieces. But nothing else significant on the current roster.

aaaah ok! PS3 trade I see. I'll let you to your dealings no problem.

 

[le_sean]

aaaah ok! PS3 trade I see. I'll let you to your dealings no problem.

Right. Show me the last trade for a Top 2 centre where more than 1 significant piece on the current day roster was traded. And I’m not talking Paul Byron types here. I’m talking about the type of players traded that are currently playing that would completely derail a team’s season because they are gone for 5 games. Because this is what you claim will happen.

 

[The Great Weal]

So we lose, KK, Tatar, Danault, Poehling, Mete and 1st all to acquie PLD and throw money at him? Solid asset management

Tatar and Danault are gone anyways so it's actually KK, Poehling, Mete and 1st for PLD which is worth it.