that i would do a petan for some dman i would not waste even a 7th on trade for one. We are a good drafting franchise dont waste a pick, in fact Engvall and Johnsson are 7ths for example
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that i would do a petan for some dman i would not waste even a 7th on trade for one. We are a good drafting franchise dont waste a pick, in fact Engvall and Johnsson are 7ths for example
Possibly, though we just traded Harpur to add more forward depth to the Marlies, so we might prefer to toss a 6th or 7th out instead, even if it’s conditional or something
At least Keefe knows Calle, and Calle’s familiar with systems and expectations.
underrated part of the deal, maybe, seeing how Calle’s on his way up.
Calle seemed to like Keefe as well, seeing as he apparently asked the Avs to be traded back to us specifically.
Talk about good timing.
I’ve wanted to see Rosen get a consistent shot in the NHL, I like his game.
Was disappointed it wasn’t going to be with us. Turns it, it will
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Underrated part about Dubas. He has principles he follows and they include valuing his players, even if he takes flak for it. Good karma.
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Yes, but any player acquired is ineligible for the playoffs.
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Hainsey I think would be perfect! He’d be cheap and I think could help stabilize Barrie.
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The Marlies are also the best team in the league to play for if you're an AHLer, bar none. So it doesnt surprise me that people want to play for the Marlies.
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This is what I like about Dubas. Players want to be here because they are treated right. I am frustrated with our lack of battle some nights but I do agree with him that it is an age/experience issue.
He could have and should have acquired more veteran presences/leadership, which I think he’s aware of now.
Overall, I hope Dubas is given more time to make this team with his vision (as it develops, I don’t believe he is closed to change) and hope he has a full year with less of an injury bug.
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Rosen is also familiar with Keefe so probably plays a factor.
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Hope the winner of the blame game is happy with their prize when they win it. And, I'll participate in any thread that I'd like to thank you.
I wasn't blaming anyone for anything, It was a discussion about specific transaction. One person thought it was bad, I disagreed. That was it.
Then you started talking about a whole bunch things that had nothing do with that transaction. Thanks for your useless input, moving on now.
get back out by the pool/beach and get a pina colada in your gullet!
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4. If Thornton is not sold on the Sharks, and he’s willing to seek out new life (boldly go where no one has gone before), my prediction is Toronto will be a factor. I can’t confirm this, but I believe the Maple Leafs considered adding him now. Two things stopped it: 1) their decision not to make short-term fixes after the Carolina loss, and 2) are they really a legit contender if they have to go through Boston or Tampa Bay or both? When GM Kyle Dubas said he wanted to see how his group would respond to its tough stretch, he meant it. Thornton would have eased the tension right now, but the organization wants to see how everyone top to bottom reacts and performs. Next season is a different story.
5. Thornton’s made it clear he will make his salary fit. He’s a left-hand shot who could feed Auston Matthews/John Tavares from his strong side. (They have spent plenty of time with Zach Hyman and William Nylander on their weak sides, although both have had strong seasons.) There’s the Greyhound connection. People forget, too, that Thornton’s been through the ringer. The first playoff series I covered for Hockey Night in Canada was Boston/Montreal 2004, where the Canadiens came back from 3–1 down to win. Thornton came under huge criticism with articles demanding he be stripped of his captaincy. He survived and will walk into the Hall of Fame. Good message for Toronto’s young core. Anyway, something to chew on.
6. The Maple Leafs made it clear they weren’t trading Tyson Barrie unless they received two things: a good-enough replacement to keep them in playoff position until currently injured reinforcements arrived, and a sweetener for the future. They would have taken Troy Stecher, but the Canucks didn’t have the picks and made it very clear certain prospects were not available. Ergo, no match. Toronto was also looking for more of a Kevin Shattenkirk circa 2017 return than, say, a third-rounder. That’s right out of the Brian Burke school of managing: don’t make a trade for less than you want, because everyone knows you’ll eventually cave.
8. Finally, on Toronto: A few teams were wondering what was up when Dubas sent out a note 45 minutes before the deadline looking for a forward. They thought it was weird Dmytro Timashov would be lost on waivers and then the Maple Leafs would be trying to add. (Timashov had asked for a trade weeks ago, and may have asked to be placed on waivers as Sven Baertschi did this year.) Another GM, though, thought Dubas was slyly trying to snare an inexpensive forward at the last second from a team that suddenly had one too many.
It's clear Dubas really wants Thornton.
4. If Thornton is not sold on the Sharks, and he’s willing to seek out new life (boldly go where no one has gone before), my prediction is Toronto will be a factor. I can’t confirm this, but I believe the Maple Leafs considered adding him now. Two things stopped it: 1) their decision not to make short-term fixes after the Carolina loss, and 2) are they really a legit contender if they have to go through Boston or Tampa Bay or both? When GM Kyle Dubas said he wanted to see how his group would respond to its tough stretch, he meant it. Thornton would have eased the tension right now, but the organization wants to see how everyone top to bottom reacts and performs. Next season is a different story.
5. Thornton’s made it clear he will make his salary fit. He’s a left-hand shot who could feed Auston Matthews/John Tavares from his strong side. (They have spent plenty of time with Zach Hyman and William Nylander on their weak sides, although both have had strong seasons.) There’s the Greyhound connection. People forget, too, that Thornton’s been through the ringer. The first playoff series I covered for Hockey Night in Canada was Boston/Montreal 2004, where the Canadiens came back from 3–1 down to win. Thornton came under huge criticism with articles demanding he be stripped of his captaincy. He survived and will walk into the Hall of Fame. Good message for Toronto’s young core. Anyway, something to chew on.
6. The Maple Leafs made it clear they weren’t trading Tyson Barrie unless they received two things: a good-enough replacement to keep them in playoff position until currently injured reinforcements arrived, and a sweetener for the future. They would have taken Troy Stecher, but the Canucks didn’t have the picks and made it very clear certain prospects were not available. Ergo, no match. Toronto was also looking for more of a Kevin Shattenkirk circa 2017 return than, say, a third-rounder. That’s right out of the Brian Burke school of managing: don’t make a trade for less than you want, because everyone knows you’ll eventually cave.
8. Finally, on Toronto: A few teams were wondering what was up when Dubas sent out a note 45 minutes before the deadline looking for a forward. They thought it was weird Dmytro Timashov would be lost on waivers and then the Maple Leafs would be trying to add. (Timashov had asked for a trade weeks ago, and may have asked to be placed on waivers as Sven Baertschi did this year.) Another GM, though, thought Dubas was slyly trying to snare an inexpensive forward at the last second from a team that suddenly had one too many.
It's clear Dubas really wants Thornton.
I'd love it and think it'd help with leadership and style of play, but don't see him wanting to be here.
Never got the impression he was a fan of the market here.
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