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All figures are cap numbers, not salaries, and are taken directly from www.capgeek.com.

Confirmed 2014-2015 salary ceiling: ....69,000,000
Projected cap spending: .....................63,119,167
Projected cap space: ...........................5,880,833



PITTSBURGH PENGUINS
Forward.................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2014-15
|
2015-16
|
2016-17

Evgeni Malkin|
C​
|
27​
|
9,500,000​
|
9,500,000​
|
9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|
C​
|
26​
|
8,700,000​
|
8,700,000​
|
8,700,000​

Patric Hornqvist|
RW​
|
27​
|
4,250,000​
|
4,250,000​
|
4,250,000​

Chris Kunitz|
LW​
|
34​
|
3,850,000​
|
3,850,000​
|
3,850,000​

Pascal Dupuis|
RW​
|
35​
|
3,750,000​
|
3,750,000​
|
3,750,000​

Marcel Goc|
C​
|
30​
|
1,200,000​
|
UFA

Steve Downie|
RW​
|
27​
|
1,000,000​
|
UFA

Beau Bennett|
LW​
|
22​
|
900,000​
|
RFA

Blake Comeau|
LW​
|
28​
|
700,000​
|
UFA

Craig Adams|
RW​
|
37​
|
700,000​
|
UFA
Defense.................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2014-15
|
2015-16
|
.2016-17

Kris Letang|
D​
|
27​
|
7,250,000​
|
7,250,000​
|
7,250,000​

Paul Martin|
D​
|
33​
|
5,000,000​
|
UFA

Christian Ehrhoff|
D​
|
32​
|
4,000,000​
|
UFA

Rob Scuderi|
D​
|
35​
|
3,375,000​
|
3,375,000​
|
3,375,000​

Simon Despres|
D​
|
22​
|
900,000​
|
900,000​
|
RFA

Olli Maatta|
D​
|
19​
|
894,167​
|
894,167​
|
RFA

Robert Bortuzzo|
D​
|
25​
|
600,000​
|
RFA

Philip Samuelsson|
D​
|
22​
|
550,000​
|
RFA
Goalie...................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2014-15
|
2015-16
|
.2016-17

Marc-Andre Fleury|
G​
|
29​
|
5,000,000​
|
UFA

Thomas Greiss|
G​
|
28​
|
1,000,000​
|
UFA



WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS
Forward...............
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2014-15
|
2015-16
|
2016-17

Jayson Megna|
RW​
|
24​
|
874,125​
|
RFA

Josh Archibald|
RW​
|
21​
|
659,167​
|
659,167​
|
659,167​

Scott Wilson|
LW​
|
22​
|
655,000​
|
655,000​
|
RFA

Bryan Rust|
RW​
|
22​
|
652,500​
|
652,500​
|
RFA

Adam Payerl|
RW​
|
23​
|
626,667​
|
RFA

Anton Zlobin|
LW​
|
21​
|
608,333​
|
608,333​
|
RFA

Matia Marcantuoni|
C​
|
20​
|
608,333​
|
608,333​
|
608,333​

Dominik Uher|
C​
|
21​
|
601,667​
|
RFA

Tom Kuhnhackl|
LW​
|
22​
|
598,333​
|
RFA

Jean-Sebastien Dea|
C​
|
20​
|
598,333​
|
598,333​
|
598,333​
|
RFA

Zach Sill|
C​
|
26​
|
550,000​
|
UFA

Bobby Farnham|
LW​
|
25​
|
550,000​
|
RFA

Nick Drazenovic|
C​
|
27​
|
550,000​
|
UFA

Andrew Ebbett|
C​
|
31​
|
550,000​
|
UFA

Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond|
RW​
|
29​
|
550,000​
|
UFA
Defense.............................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2014-15
|
2015-16
|
2016-17

Derrick Pouliot|
D​
|
20​
|
863,333​
|
863,333​
|
863,333​

Brian Dumoulin|
D​
|
22​
|
831,667​
|
RFA

Harrison Ruopp|
D​
|
21​
|
650,833​
|
650,833​
|
RFA

Nick D'Agostino|
D​
|
23​
|
625,000​
|
RFA

Scott Harrington|
D​
|
21​
|
589,167​
|
589,167​
|
RFA

Reid McNeill|
D​
|
22​
|
575,000​
|
RFA

Taylor Chorney|
D​
|
27​
|
550,000​
|
UFA
Goalie................................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2014-15
|
2015-16
|
2016-17

Matt Murray|
G​
|
20​
|
620,000​
|
620,000​
|
620,000​

Jeff Zatkoff|
G​
|
27​
|
600,000​
|
600,000​
|
UFA

Eric Hartzell|
G​
|
25​
|
550,000​
|
RFA



UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Player........................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2013-14
|
News and notes

Brooks Orpik|
D​
|
33​
|
3,750,000​
| Signed with Washington (5 years, $5.5M per) !

Jussi Jokinen|
LW​
|
31​
|
3,000,000​
| Signed with Florida (4 years, $4M per) ?

Lee Stempniak|
RW​
|
31​
|
2,500,000​
|Surprisingly good stickhandler likely too pricey for a third-liner on this team

Matt Niskanen|
D​
|
27​
|
2,300,000​
| Signed with Washington (7 years, $5.75M per)

Tomas Vokoun|
G​
|
37​
|
2,000,000​
|God bless the man if he's able to continue playing, but it won't be in Pittsburgh

Marcel Goc|
C​
|
30​
|
1,700,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $1.2M)

Taylor Pyatt|
LW​
|
32​
|
1,550,000​
|At least they didn't have to give up anything to get him in the first place? Ugh

Tanner Glass|
LW​
|
30​
|
1,100,000​
| Signed with N.Y. Rangers (3 years, $1.45M per) ?!

Spencer Machacek|
RW​
|
25​
|
632,500​
|Group VI UFA provided much-needed scoring touch for WBS after trade

Deryk Engelland|
D​
|
32​
|
566,667​
| Signed with Calgary (3 years, $2.9M per) ?!?!?!

Joe Vitale|
C​
|
28​
|
550,000​
| Signed with Arizona (3 years, $1.117M per)

Brian Gibbons|
C​
|
26​
|
550,000​
| Signed with Columbus (1 year, $750k, 2-way)

Zach Sill|
C​
|
26​
|
550,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $550k, 2-way)

Chuck Kobasew|
RW​
|
32​
|
550,000​
| Signed with Bern (NLA)

Chris Conner|
RW​
|
30​
|
550,000​
| Signed with Washington (1 year, $550k, 2-way)

Harry Zolnierczyk|
LW​
|
26​
|
550,000​
| Signed with N.Y. Islanders (1 year, $600k, 2-way)

Nick Drazenovic|
C​
|
27​
|
550,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $550k, 2-way)

Brendan Mikkelson|
D​
|
26​
|
550,000​
|Decent scoring defenseman ... in the AHL



RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Player......................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2013-14
|
News and notes

Brandon Sutter|
C​
|
24​
|
2,066,667​
|Owners caught Shero sewing KESLER onto 16's jersey at night while sobbing

Nick Spaling|
LW​
|
25​
|
1,500,000​
|Has filed for salary arbitration since the trade from Nashville

Jayson Megna|
RW​
|
24​
|
925,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $874k, 2-way)

Simon Despres|
D​
|
22​
|
840,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (2 years, $900k per)

Philip Samuelsson|
D​
|
22​
|
627,500​
| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $550k, 2-way)

Bobby Farnham|
LW​
|
25​
|
550,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $550k, 2-way)



SIGNED PROSPECTS
Player
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
Current Team
|
Contract

Kasperi Kapanen|
RW​
|
17​
|
KalPa (Liiga)​
|
3 years/925,000 per​

Oskar Sundqvist|
C​
|
20​
|
SkellefteÃ¥ (SHL)​
|
3 years/708,333 per​

Tristan Jarry|
G​
|
19​
|
Edmonton (WHL)​
|
3 years/650,833 per​



UNSIGNED PROSPECTS
Player​
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
Current Team (League)

Anthony Angello|
F​
|
18​
|Omaha (USHL)

Dane Birks|
D​
|
18​
|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Teddy Blueger|
F​
|
19​
|Minnesota State (WCHA)

Blaine Byron|
F​
|
19​
|Maine (HEA)

Jake Guentzel|
F​
|
19​
|Nebraska-Omaha (WCHA)

Troy Josephs|
F​
|
20​
|Clarkson (ECAC)

Sam Lafferty|
F​
|
19​
|Tri-City (USHL)

Jaden Lindo|
F​
|
18​
|Owen Sound (OHL)

Sean Maguire|
G​
|
21​
|Boston University (HEA)

Alexander Pechurskiy|
G​
|
24​
|Magnitogorsk (KHL)

Ryan Segalla|
D​
|
19​
|Connecticut (HEA)

Jeff Taylor|
D​
|
20​
|Union (ECAC)
 
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billybudd

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IcedCapp

Colligan said he's heard he's behind schedule.

Huh. 35 year old guy blows both ligaments in his knee and isn't healing as well as a 20 year old would.

Can't say I saw that coming, except the complete opposite of that.
 
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BlindWillyMcHurt

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Huh. 35 year old guy blows both ligaments in his knee and isn't healing as well as a 20 year old would.

Can't say I didn't see that coming, except the complete opposite of that.

Yeah, I understand that Dupuis seems to think a lot of his conditioning and ability to heal. But age isn't really something you can fight against. Especially in a game for young men.

I wouldn't be surprised if that contract is the next to look almost completely untenable.
 

Riptide

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Re Marleau.

If we're spending assets for a winger, I'd rather it not be someone who's both 35 (35 in Sept) and who has a 3 yr deal at 6.66m.

I like him as a player, and think he'll be solid over the next 2 years... but moving assets, and having him for that 3rd year (which he'll start as a 37 yr old) is not something I'm interested in. Its too easy to say "look at how durable he is, etc". If he was a FA, and we could sign him... while he wouldn't be my first choice, I wouldn't be too upset... but that's not the situation with Marleau... acquiring him wouldn't be cheap. And if we're going to make costly acquisitions... it had better be someone much closer to their early 20s/early 30s than their mid 30s and still having term left.

Age is a funny thing... Look at Gonchar... he was good in Ottawa... but between him finishing the season as a 38 yr old, and signing with Dallas as a 39 yr old, it was obvious that his game wasn't there. Yes that's a little older than Marleau would be in his final year, but the point stands that ones game can and does catch up to players quickly once their in the mid/late 30s, and us being a cap team can't afford to have Marleau as a 3rd line player making 6.66m - even if it's only for 1 season.

So unless we're getting him dirt cheap (which we wouldn't), I'm not interested.
 

Speaking Moistly

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Feb 19, 2013
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Maybe worse comes to worse with Duper and he can't play or pass his physical, and we LTIR him.

The thought has occurred to me, maybe it's a career ending injury or maybe he misses a chunk of this season, etc. A 35 year old blowing out his knee, I don't care about him being a health freak, it's really bad. You can talk about him being a lesser player after it, but there's also the possibility that he's just done. At least it's not a 35+ contract.

Shero's last off season really made a ****ing mess.
 

Winger for Hire

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Dec 9, 2013
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Maybe worse comes to worse with Duper and he can't play or pass his physical, and we LTIR him.

That will be a really bad situation. Another winger spot to fill with not much to fill it with, and if it does get filled that salary will have to be moved when Duper comes back (he won't be shelved the whole season- barring setbacks).

So it will really just be delaying the inevitable. We should all be hoping that Duper comes back healthy and able to play on the 3rd line. I know the contract sucks, but it doesn't mean he won't be a valuable bottom 6 guy this season (hopefully).
 

AR5

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Re Marleau.

If we're spending assets for a winger, I'd rather it not be someone who's both 35 (35 in Sept) and who has a 3 yr deal at 6.66m.

I like him as a player, and think he'll be solid over the next 2 years... but moving assets, and having him for that 3rd year (which he'll start as a 37 yr old) is not something I'm interested in. Its too easy to say "look at how durable he is, etc". If he was a FA, and we could sign him... while he wouldn't be my first choice, I wouldn't be too upset... but that's not the situation with Marleau... acquiring him wouldn't be cheap. And if we're going to make costly acquisitions... it had better be someone much closer to their early 20s/early 30s than their mid 30s and still having term left.

Age is a funny thing... Look at Gonchar... he was good in Ottawa... but between him finishing the season as a 38 yr old, and signing with Dallas as a 39 yr old, it was obvious that his game wasn't there. Yes that's a little older than Marleau would be in his final year, but the point stands that ones game can and does catch up to players quickly once their in the mid/late 30s, and us being a cap team can't afford to have Marleau as a 3rd line player making 6.66m - even if it's only for 1 season.

So unless we're getting him dirt cheap (which we wouldn't), I'm not interested.

How about we get Pachioretti for Letang.

Send Martin to SJ for Marleau. Works within the cap...

So we fill all the top 6 holes, and create 2 new ones on defense. But... we at least have the young players in the organization who can potentially step up. Though, the trade Letang thing doesn't make so much sense to me... Dunno... Who will mentor the kids if we trade both Martin AND Letang? I don't want Scuderi stepping up to fill that role.
 

billybudd

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I wouldn't be surprised if that contract is the next to look almost completely untenable.

To be fair, an otherwise iron-man type of guy having his center fly through the air and land on his knee is an unpredictable outcome.

And we're really not even alone with this. Boston's in almost the exact same situation with Seidenberg and I don't like his chances of being effective going forward any more than I like Pascal's.
 

BlindWillyMcHurt

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To be fair, an otherwise iron-man type of guy having his center fly through the air and land on his knee is an unpredictable outcome.

And we're really not even alone with this. Boston's in almost the exact same situation with Seidenberg and I don't like his chances of being effective going forward any more than I like Pascal's.

Certainly. It was pretty much the definition of freak injury.

That doesn't mean it was any better of a contract for Shero to sign off on. But then again, for the sake of full disclosure... I always hated the Crosby/Dupuis dynamic. So I never wanted him back to begin with.
 

mpp9

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Re Marleau.

If we're spending assets for a winger, I'd rather it not be someone who's both 35 (35 in Sept) and who has a 3 yr deal at 6.66m.

I like him as a player, and think he'll be solid over the next 2 years... but moving assets, and having him for that 3rd year (which he'll start as a 37 yr old) is not something I'm interested in. Its too easy to say "look at how durable he is, etc". If he was a FA, and we could sign him... while he wouldn't be my first choice, I wouldn't be too upset... but that's not the situation with Marleau... acquiring him wouldn't be cheap. And if we're going to make costly acquisitions... it had better be someone much closer to their late 20s/early 30s than their mid 30s and still having term left.

Age is a funny thing... Look at Gonchar... he was good in Ottawa... but between him finishing the season as a 38 yr old, and signing with Dallas as a 39 yr old, it was obvious that his game wasn't there. Yes that's a little older than Marleau would be in his final year, but the point stands that ones game can and does catch up to players quickly once their in the mid/late 30s, and us being a cap team can't afford to have Marleau as a 3rd line player making 6.66m - even if it's only for 1 season.

So unless we're getting him dirt cheap (which we wouldn't), I'm not interested.

Marleau isn't going to cost you Maatta.

Kesler went for what will be a late 1st, struggling D-man in Sbisa, similar caliber player as Sutter in Bonino and a 3rd.

MSL went for two 1sts and a pending UFA.

I think those two deals are decent comparables.

I'd send them Sutter+D-man not part of our future and a 1st. Marleau puts us in the driver's seat having the best forward group in the East for the next 2-3 years.
 

bigG

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Marleau isn't going to cost you Maatta.

Kesler went for what will be a late 1st, struggling D-man in Sbisa, similar caliber player as Sutter in Bonino and a 3rd.

MSL went for two 1sts and a pending UFA.

I think those two deals are decent comparables.

I'd send them Sutter+D-man not part of our future and a 1st. Marleau puts us in the driver's seat having the best forward group in the East for the next 2-3 years.

Kesler and MSL controlled their destinies. They pigeon-holed their GMs.
 

billybudd

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Kesler and MSL controlled their destinies. They pigeon-holed their GMs.

Marleau has a full NMC. He controls his destiny every bit as much as they do.

Of course, to date, he's used that control to say he has no interest in going anywhere.
 

Shady Machine

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Kesler and MSL controlled their destinies. They pigeon-holed their GMs.

So will Marleau. He has a NMC and him and Thornton have made clear they aren't going to waive. The Penguins would be one of a few teams he may potentially waive for so that will lower potential returns. Who knows if he'd waive for us, but it at least makes some sense.
 

IcedCapp

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Huh. 35 year old guy blows both ligaments in his knee and isn't healing as well as a 20 year old would.

Can't say I didn't see that coming, except the complete opposite of that.

age: you can't predict that
 

Riptide

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Dec 29, 2011
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How about we get Pachioretti for Letang.

Send Martin to SJ for Marleau. Works within the cap...


So we fill all the top 6 holes, and create 2 new ones on defense. But... we at least have the young players in the organization who can potentially step up. Though, the trade Letang thing doesn't make so much sense to me... Dunno... Who will mentor the kids if we trade both Martin AND Letang? I don't want Scuderi stepping up to fill that role.

Me not wanting him has nothing to do with the cap today... but with his cap hit in 2-3 years, vs his production in 2-3 years. Getting Patches does nothing to alleviate that. And if we're trading Letang, we might as well desperately try to keep both Martin and Ehrhoff to anchor our blueline for the next 3-5 years while using our D depth to fill out the bottom 4.
 

iFishyHD

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Dec 27, 2010
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How about we get Pachioretti for Letang.

Send Martin to SJ for Marleau. Works within the cap...

So we fill all the top 6 holes, and create 2 new ones on defense. But... we at least have the young players in the organization who can potentially step up. Though, the trade Letang thing doesn't make so much sense to me... Dunno... Who will mentor the kids if we trade both Martin AND Letang? I don't want Scuderi stepping up to fill that role.

First saying all that about Eklund and such an now this?

Ugh.

The defense without them is

Maatta-Erhroff
Despres-Bort
Scuds-Samuellsson

oh, and then we still have Fluery. I don't exactly know what your going for. Seems like you are arguing with the yourself too.
 

Riptide

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Marleau isn't going to cost you Maatta.

Kesler went for what will be a late 1st, struggling D-man in Sbisa, similar caliber player as Sutter in Bonino and a 3rd.

MSL went for two 1sts and a pending UFA.

I think those two deals are decent comparables.

I'd send them Sutter+D-man not part of our future and a 1st. Marleau puts us in the driver's seat having the best forward group in the East for the next 2-3 years.

So Sutter, Despres/Dumo, 1st? (and yes I recognize that Despres/Dumo have different values). I wouldn't do those deals. Again... it's less about the cost to acquire him, vs the cost to acquire him AND his cap hit AND age. I don't want to see us moving young pieces (Sutter, Despres/Dumo/Pouliot/Harrington/1st) for guys that are in their late 30s and are not long term solutions. I'd move Sutter for McGinn before giving any real thought to acquiring Marleau.

I don't care about winning this year... I want to be a strong contender each year for the next 5. Giving up those assets for Marleau doesn't accomplish that. If that means having a less successful season this year (say 7 game 1st round, or 2nd round), then going to the ECF or deeper in each of the next 5... I'd take that hands down.
 

mpp9

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I see Marleau being well worth his contract in year 3. And very well can play into his 40's.

The cap will be 80 mil+ in 3 years. Marleau's cap number will be just fine even if he drops off a little.
 

Riptide

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Dec 29, 2011
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I see Marleau being well worth his contract in year 3. And very well can play into his 40's.

The cap will be 80 mil+ in 3 years. Marleau's cap number will be just fine even if he drops off a little.

We'll just have to agree to disagree. He might well play into his 40s... but I'm more than happy to allow another team to take that chance.
 

Fordy

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May 28, 2008
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I think Marleau has two legit top six years left and could be great on a third line or with Kunitz after that.
 

Ogrezilla

Nerf Herder
Jul 5, 2009
75,544
22,068
Pittsburgh
In three years, Marleau will still be better than any wing Sid has played with consistently other than Hossa. I completely believe that. He's that much better than the next best right now. I wouldn't be surprised if Marleau retires at about the level of Kunitz' peak.
 

AjaxTelamon

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Jul 8, 2011
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In three years, Marleau will still be better than any wing Sid has played with consistently other than Hossa. I completely believe that. He's that much better than the next best right now. I wouldn't be surprised if Marleau retires at about the level of Kunitz' peak.

In general I agree, but the only issue is the one we're seeing with Dupuis right now. Freak injury, and the older player just can't heal from it like a younger one. So if you're going to spend Martin+ for a winger, you might as well spend Martin+ a bigger package and get yourself an E. Kane, as an example.
 
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