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yeah but that's a coaching decision, and i think a lot of people would've preferred mueller at times over john moore
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I would guess that yes, if the Devils sign De Haan, there is a logjam after the top 5 D (De Haan/Vatanen/Butcher/Greene/Severson) which includes another 5 D (Santini/Lovejoy/Gryba/Yakovlev/Mueller). I'd be surprised if two out of that second group weren't moved at some point, while the other three fight it out for the 6D slot.
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Butcher slides to the right side, which he did plenty last year. There’s your room for Mueller.
Easy peasy.
Don't forget De Haan is made of glass and missed significant time in all but one year. Someone has to fill in when he's out.
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Butcher's in the picture no matter what. I don't see how CDH has any bearing on Butcher's usage unless you're splitting hairs over LD1/LD2 usage. Plus, I expect CDH would help out a lot on the PK.
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If anything, De Haan would help keep the pressure off Butcher to drastically improve. It adds an additional safety net for him. We can still increase his minutes from last year to see how he does, but allow for him to continue at the same role as last year that he so greatly excelled in.
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Butcher’s ability to play either side completely derails the “one or the other” argument.
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I love butcher too but he should start off as the 3rd pairing LD at the start of the year still and still slowly be eased more ice time. And by end of the year be at least 2nd paring minutes. Don't want to ruin him after one good season
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still am not on board with taking on Bobby Ryan's full contract
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There is absolutely no shot I give them that much if we’re taking on Ryan’s contract at full value. Not a shooooot.
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Peaking in from time to time while at work and I keep crossing my fingers to see the thread bumped 10 pages or so .... come on come onnnnn.
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Poor free agent classes like this are dangerous. I'm content sitting this one out.
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take the full contract and then in a year or two whenever seattle comes up give them a sweetener to take ryan.
win/win/win
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Mark Fayne was not 'just a guy', and the two play totally different styles. The thing that makes me think Mueller might have some potential is the fact that he is decent with the puck. His play without the puck needs a lot of work, and his play with the puck in the offensive zone also needs work, but I expected a player who could skate and nothing else - that's not the case.
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He’s good defensively but I just didn’t see much offense at all. Maybe that’s the next step.
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Mueller is pretty good at getting the puck out of the zone and up the ice. He is a decent skater but his offensive game is non existent (so far)
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Both 6’3 210 pound stay at home dmen that bring next to no offense and are solid in their own end. Mueller skates better, Fayne was stronger (also had the benefit of playing with prime Andy Greene). My definition of “just a guy” would be someone that literally every team has multiple of. Mark Fayne was above average for a couple years and mostly terrible in EDM.
if anything, i think a player like de Haan comes in and we see an elevation in play of Butcher and Mueller. probably even Severson and Santini as well.
i think we all can agree that having a defenseman be able to slot some of the younger guys into easier assignments would be beneficial to everyone.
i think we all can agree that having a defenseman be able to slot some of the younger guys into easier assignments would be beneficial to everyone.
I agree he has a chance. But the way Mueller was deployed by Hynes down the stretch and in the playoffs (when Mueller was healthy, scratched twice) doesn't lend itself to the impression that there is a ton of trust in him. He would have to make significant improvements to play regular minutes for the Devils this year.
There is a reason that Shero is going after Calvin De Haan. Clearly, he envisions a top 3 LD of De Haan/Greene/Butcher.
And I value your opinion on everything, as well. Just because I disagree with you on a topic, does not in any way mean I do not value your opposing point.
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