GDT: Free Agency Day! Wednesday July 13th 2022 Noon

[Habs Halifax]

In my opinion, it will rather be something like a 3/4m contract coming back with 1/2 year term, teams don't dump 1m players usually

I think Subban back to MTL is a real possibility in terms of PR move. I would not like it or mind it in a rebuilding team.

If we are taking back $3M or $4M, we are only saving $3.25M or $2.25M. There would have to be another trade to unload one of Drouin, Dadonov, Byron, Hoffman, Armia. That's not easy to do and we might have to pay a future to do it.

I think our best play is to retain $1M on Petry and take back futures.

As far as Subban, I think he would do well with Eddy in Petry's spot. Gallagher might not be happy but Gallagher is a problem contract at this point so that should not factor in to weather we sign Subban or not.

Yep, just what we need: an expensive defenceman who is slower than Savard.

We won't be paying him if he comes to Montreal. Probably $2M or less. If he wants more and another team offers it, good luck with it.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Dallas picking up all the old players. Surely it wont fire back in 3-4 years

 

[expy]

So, seems like we're gonna make an offer to get Kulak back.

 

[RationalExpectations]

We all would love to get Bedard but winning back to back lotteries is rare and this Habs roster will be better than last year. Lots of factors involved...

* MSL for a full season
* Price plays more than 5 games
* We likely don't have as many injuries. Almost broke records last year
* Long off season for players to train and rebound.
* Better energy heading into the season with less expectations.

If you follow Gorton and Hughes narratives, the plan is not to tank. Fans want it but I see a pick from 8-12 range. Not impossible for us to have a top 5 pick but I think this roster with rising youth gains momentum.

Habs fan base is getting emotionally attached to Bedard. I'd love it but we are just not in the same situation as the Coyotes. Last season was a disaster not a good team but still a disaster that lead to us finishing last. They were deflated by the KK offer sheet, Price/Weber injury, and Danault walking.

RationalExpecations

Ahah I am not saying the Habs will get Bedard, what I mean is that I don't see them trying to spend futures to get some assets to contend right now.

I don't think people see how far that team was from contention. Even accounting only for the post MSL performance, they would reach 70 points, which puts you bottom 5. Without Petry, I don't see it getting better that's all I mean.

 

[Belial]

Dallas picking up all the old players. Surely it wont fire back in 3-4 years

Well I guess they're trying to make the last push with Pavelski and Benn...

 

[RationalExpectations]

Dallas picking up all the old players. Surely it wont fire back in 3-4 years

Especially when Robertson Hintz will need extensions, i.e. now and in 1 year.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Seattle should sign Gaudreau. Would attract fans there.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Ahah I am not saying the Habs will get Bedard, what I mean is that I don't see them trying to spend futures to get some assets to contend right now.

I don't think people see how far that team was from contention. Even accounting only for the post MSL performance, they would reach 70 points, which puts you bottom 5. Without Petry, I don't see it getting better that's all I mean.

There not trying to contend right now. They are trying to assemble building blocks and positive momentum. Like it or not, HuGo do not have Bedard on their minds.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Well I guess they're trying to make the last push with Pavelski and Benn...

They have 18m in cap space; with Robertson, Oettinger and 2 players to sign. I don't get the Burns rumors except if SJS is willing to retain a lot but that won't come cheap...

Seattle should sign Gaudreau. Would attract fans there.

Apparently money was not the issue in CGY he wants to play close to where his family is (North East US)

 

[Habs Halifax]

Seattle should sign Gaudreau. Would attract fans there.

He's already has his mind made up IMO. Probably going close to home and something he considered a few years ago where there were Gaudreau trade rumors.

Not a money issue so doubt he picks the Kraken. This reeks like a Tavares situation.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Who can pay him in North East US?

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

UFA predictions
Subban - Toronto
Giroux - Ottawa
Kessel - CGY
Gaudreau - NJ/NYI
Radulov - Vegas
Palat - Calgary
Trochek - Colorado
Kuemper - NJ or BUF
Klingberg - Seattle or NJ
Kadri - NYR or Seattle
Manson - Carolina
Chariot - STL
Perron - NJ or Edmonton
Copp - Buffalo or Seattle

Habs
Trades Petry for barely nothing to get rid of the money
Habs waste money on Kulak
Habs waste money on Colin White (LMFAO)
Dubois never happens
Anderson traded but later on the summer.

Conclusion : Ill probably whine as usual when I wake up to the disaster.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Who can pay him in North East US?

NJD, NYI, PHI are rumored (the two last ones ned to clear cap to be able to do so though)

 

[Habs Halifax]

Well I guess they're trying to make the last push with Pavelski and Benn...

This is why I feel Petry lands in Dallas. Habs retain $1M and his 3 years in term left fits for their compete window before they consider a reset.

Petry at $5.25M provides enough room for them to bridge one of Oettinger and Robertson (or both) and he fits well with Lindell.

Unless they are looking at Subban as the RD replacement to play with Lindell?

 

[Kimota]

I guess Petry would have cost too much for them trade-wise.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I guess Petry would have cost too much for them trade-wise.

Burns is 37 with 3 more years at 8m. That's beyond worse than Petry

 

[Habs Halifax]

I guess Petry would have cost too much for them trade-wise.

Burns from age 37-39 at $8M
vs
Petry from age 34-36 at $6.25M.

Are the Sharks thinking 50% retention on Burns?

Burns has a 3 team trade list which is risky at age 37. Big heavy body at 230 lbs and age/gravity will wear on him quickly IMO.

 

[Kent Nilsson]

So where’s that Petry bonus trade ?

 

[HomaridII]

 

[salbutera]

UFA predictions
Subban - Toronto
Giroux - Ottawa
Kessel - CGY
Gaudreau - NJ/NYI
Radulov - Vegas
Palat - Calgary
Trochek - Colorado
Kuemper - NJ or BUF
Klingberg - Seattle or NJ
Kadri - NYR or Seattle
Manson - Carolina
Chariot - STL
Perron - NJ or Edmonton
Copp - Buffalo or Seattle

Habs
Trades Petry for barely nothing to get rid of the money
Habs waste money on Kulak
Habs waste money on Colin White (LMFAO)
Dubois never happens
Anderson traded but later on the summer.

Conclusion : Ill probably whine as usual when I wake up to the disaster.

In life consistency is vital for peace of mind! LOL

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

predictions doing good already

 

[Luigi Habs]

I swear people think we trading Petry , and acquiring Dubois and signing. Klingberg…my guess:

Petry trade is happening but this Dubois smoke is all nonsense. It’s classic Montreal rumour that gets carried away

True. And I’m not even sure we’re trading Petry. Probably one of our wingers.

 

[Kimota]

Would be interested in Dubois but losing one of Guhle/Harris/Mailloux/Baron would hurt me physically.

Would be pretty solid for them. In their case rebuilding has to end at some point. They need to compete a little more at least.

 

[Seb]

I hope they don't make the team better today.

Dubois would be nonsense considering we have Suzuki, Dach, Dvorak and potentially a top C prospect next draft.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Burns is 37 with 3 more years at 8m. That's beyond worse than Petry

He's also very heavy at 230lbs. Weight affects skating/decline and especially at age 37!

Petry at age 34 is lean and has shown zero skating declines. If the Sharks think Burns is a solution, it might be for 1 year but man... age 38 and 39 seasons will be painful. The only way that makes sense is if the Sharks are retaining 50%.

I hope Hughes is considering $1M retention on Petry. It's our best play IMO. Petry at $5.25M for a top 4RD who is still very mobile has lots of value.

Maybe the Canes are knocking on the door hard after we pay Petry's bonus

So where’s that Petry bonus trade ?

It's on hold... Another team found out and called Hughes to offer something better and they are going back and forth