Player Discussion Frank Vatrano

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I think a Vatrano-Spooner-Czarnik, despite maybe being defensively challenged at times, would be the spark to get Spooner back on his feet.
 

TMac21

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I think a Vatrano-Spooner-Czarnik, despite maybe being defensively challenged at times, would be the spark to get Spooner back on his feet.

That's what i'd like to see (if all healthy)

Marchand Bergeron Backes
Beleskey Krejci Pasta
Vatrano Spooner Czarnik
Schaller-Moore-Nash/Acciari
 

NDiesel

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That's what i'd like to see (if all healthy)

Marchand Bergeron Backes
Beleskey Krejci Pasta
Vatrano Spooner Czarnik
Schaller-Moore-Nash/Acciari

Personally:

Marchand-Bergeron-Czarnik
Vatrano-Krejci-Backes
Beleskey-Spooner-Pasta
4th line

Spooner and Pasta are terrific players together, despite their defensive shortcomings. Beleskey creates some space and gives some defensive stability. Vatrano gives Krejci a pure shooter and Backes also creates some space. Marchy and Bergeron do their thing and Czarnik is smart and skilled enough to be a good piece on that line.

I think this combination would give opposing teams real fits in matchups. Do you matchup against our best scorer in Pasta? Do you matchup in our two-way beasts in Marchand and Bergeron, or if Krejci picks up his play do you matchup against that 2nd line who can really catch fire IMO
 

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That's what i'd like to see (if all healthy)

Marchand Bergeron Backes
Beleskey Krejci Pasta
Vatrano Spooner Czarnik
Schaller-Moore-Nash/Acciari

I wasn't impressed with backes on the bergy line. Id put pasta back up there and try Vatrano with dk and backes first, then flip and flip guys in and out with a reluctancy to change that top line. Czarnik should have the third long center With Spooner and backes.
 

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Personally:

Marchand-Bergeron-Czarnik
Vatrano-Krejci-Backes
Beleskey-Spooner-Pasta
4th line

Spooner and Pasta are terrific players together, despite their defensive shortcomings. Beleskey creates some space and gives some defensive stability. Vatrano gives Krejci a pure shooter and Backes also creates some space. Marchy and Bergeron do their thing and Czarnik is smart and skilled enough to be a good piece on that line.

I think this combination would give opposing teams real fits in matchups. Do you matchup against our best scorer in Pasta? Do you matchup in our two-way beasts in Marchand and Bergeron, or if Krejci picks up his play do you matchup against that 2nd line who can really catch fire IMO

Like that 1st line. Makes more sense than Backes with them. Beleskey might be out until ASG, but I'd like to see:

Marchand Bergeron Czarnik
Beleskey Krejci Pastrnak
Vatrano Spooner Backes
Moore Nash Schaller/Accari

Maybe put Spooner with 46 and 88 until 39 is healthy, let Backes center 72 and 59?
 

NDiesel

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Like that 1st line. Makes more sense than Backes with them. Beleskey might be out until ASG, but I'd like to see:

Marchand Bergeron Czarnik
Beleskey Krejci Pastrnak
Vatrano Spooner Backes
Moore Nash Schaller/Accari

Maybe put Spooner with 46 and 88 until 39 is healthy, let Backes center 72 and 59?

Actually I do like the idea of Backes back to C, I'd be okay with something like:
Marchand-Bergeron-Czarnik
Beleskey-Krejci-Vatrano
Spooner-Backes-Pasta

And like you said, Schaller with Krejci until Beleskey is back.

Personally I don't think Krejci and Pasta's still work too well, but I'd be willing to let them work it out and see if they get some chemistry.
 

TMac21

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Actually I do like the idea of Backes back to C, I'd be okay with something like:
Marchand-Bergeron-Czarnik
Beleskey-Krejci-Vatrano
Spooner-Backes-Pasta

And like you said, Schaller with Krejci until Beleskey is back.

Personally I don't think Krejci and Pasta's still work too well, but I'd be willing to let them work it out and see if they get some chemistry.

Krejci gave Pasta two great passes last night, one hit the post and one lead to the scoring chance in OT....let's hope they can keep it going.
 

Fierce1

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Marchand/Bergeron can be a threat on their own, Krejci needs a shooter like Pasta. At least that way opposing teams have two lines to contend with.

I really don't care where they shove Backes, he's a slow mucker who can throw the body and go to the net if he can make it there on time but lets not expect to get our money's worth out of him.

I'm looking forward to getting Frankie back in the lineup.
 

KnightofBoston

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As soon as vatrano is with providence I want to see backed centering the third line

He just looks really out of place as a wing and not the guy on any of the lines so far


Put him there and let Heinen and Spoons wing him.

Give czarnik a shot with krejci or Bergy.
 

Brewins

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As soon as vatrano is with providence I want to see backed centering the third line

He just looks really out of place as a wing and not the guy on any of the lines so far


Put him there and let Heinen and Spoons wing him.

Give czarnik a shot with krejci or Bergy.

Or go full rangers:sarcasm::yo:

Marchy-Bergy-Czarnik
Heinin/Schaller-DK-Pasta
Vatrano/Heinen-Backes-Nash
Moore-Spooner-Schaller/Vatrano
 

PB37

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I've been pulling for a Vatrano -- Spooner -- Czarnik third line for awhile now. I'd like to see what it can do....tons of speed, creativity, moxy on the wings with Vatrano and Czarnik ( who were excellent together in Providence and have chemistry ). Just make sure to give them Chara--Carlo when they're on the ice.
 

Fenian24

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I'm sorry, I know Czarnik scored a nice goal Monday but you can't have a center with 8 points in 27 games and a RW with 8 points in 26 games on your top line and expect to compete for anything but a lottery pick.

Czarnik to me is one of the guys that should be on the bubble or possible trade bait for an established top 6 wing. The skill and speed are there but the production needs to be.
 

BruinDust

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I've been pulling for a Vatrano -- Spooner -- Czarnik third line for awhile now. I'd like to see what it can do....tons of speed, creativity, moxy on the wings with Vatrano and Czarnik ( who were excellent together in Providence and have chemistry ). Just make sure to give them Chara--Carlo when they're on the ice.

Right now I'd just be happy with Vatrano bumping Schaller off the Krejci line.
 

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I'm sorry, I know Czarnik scored a nice goal Monday but you can't have a center with 8 points in 27 games and a RW with 8 points in 26 games on your top line and expect to compete for anything but a lottery pick.

Czarnik to me is one of the guys that should be on the bubble or possible trade bait for an established top 6 wing. The skill and speed are there but the production needs to be.

Let's not forget he a rookie. I don't mind be his game. In Providence he did ok his first year. Now he has to play in a defensive system with not so great linemates. I think he has a future.
 

Mpasta

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So your telling me we haven't been relying on Pasta's 18 goals a little to much??

I think the :huh: was for the phrasing. :laugh:

I'm sorry, I know Czarnik scored a nice goal Monday but you can't have a center with 8 points in 27 games and a RW with 8 points in 26 games on your top line and expect to compete for anything but a lottery pick.

Czarnik to me is one of the guys that should be on the bubble or possible trade bait for an established top 6 wing. The skill and speed are there but the production needs to be.

We're missing Beleskey and Vatrano right now so our LW isn't going to look good.

If the team is ever fully healthy:

Beleskey-Krejci-Pastrnak
Marchand-Bergeron-Backes
Vatrano-Spooner-Not Hayes
4th line

That's 3 lines that can score and a pretty good 4th line.

I don't want to see Pasta on the 3rd line. He needs to be out there as much as possible.
 

Fenian24

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I think the :huh: was for the phrasing. :laugh:



We're missing Beleskey and Vatrano right now so our LW isn't going to look good.

If the team is ever fully healthy:

Beleskey-Krejci-Pastrnak
Marchand-Bergeron-Backes
Vatrano-Spooner-Not Hayes
4th line

That's 3 lines that can score and a pretty good 4th line.

I don't want to see Pasta on the 3rd line. He needs to be out there as much as possible.

That's fine, I don't have an issue with Czarnik, he just is not a top 6 player right now, maybe he becomes one, I like his speed and I know he has been saddled with some bad linemates but he shoudn't even be in discussion for a spot on the top two lines. I still want size and toughness on the fourth line.

On the depth chart he is below DeBrusk, Senyshyn, Vatrano, Gabrielle,JFK and Frederic to me long term. The fact that he can play center or wing does help him.
 

22Brad Park

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I'm sorry, I know Czarnik scored a nice goal Monday but you can't have a center with 8 points in 27 games and a RW with 8 points in 26 games on your top line and expect to compete for anything but a lottery pick.

Czarnik to me is one of the guys that should be on the bubble or possible trade bait for an established top 6 wing. The skill and speed are there but the production needs to be.


Bruins need Bergeron to start scoring bud..
 
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