Forsberg vs Mackinnon

[The Sweetness]

Good part of his injuries was due to his playing style. He lived by the sword and died by it. All it is, is "would've, could've" but he didn't.

That's only partly true.

His career was cut short due to a genetic issue with his ankles. This “injury” wasn’t due to his playing style.

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He was born with ankle bones larger than the usual person — basically they were too wide to fit comfortably into a skate — and he developed inflamed fluid-filled bursa sacs over time from the grinding of the bones against the skate.

He underwent surgery in the offseason to drain fluid in order to be ready for training camp in his native Sweden that fall, but after trying to skate during the first day of camp, he was in more pain than ever. He decided to take a leave of absence to have his foot treated. He returned to the Avs in January, but after being examined, team doctors found a problem with his left foot. He had surgery for that, and it appeared his season was over.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Thats partly true.

However, his career was cut short due to a genetic issue with his ankles. This “injury” wasn’t due to his playing style.

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He was born with ankle bones larger than the usual person — basically they were too wide to fit comfortably into a skate — and he developed inflamed fluid-filled bursa sacs over time from the grinding of the bones against the skate.

He underwent surgery in the offseason to drain fluid in order to be ready for training camp in his native Sweden that fall, but after trying to skate during the first day of camp, he was in more pain than ever. He decided to take a leave of absence to have his foot treated. He returned to the Avs in January, but after being examined, team doctors found a problem with his left foot. He had surgery for that, and it appeared his season was over.

Forsberg had those foot problems flair up in his sophomore year. So he practically played his entire career with this. How remarkable is that? They guy was a savage.

 

[Spleenless Wonder21]

Forsberg had those foot problems flair up in his sophomore year. So he practically played his entire career with this. How remarkable is that? They guy was a savage.

His career was akin to Gale Sayers with the Bears, from what I’ve learned. One of the best running backs in the league, when he was healthy.

MacK does have a career playoff PPG average of 1.27 thus far, so, much like Forsberg, he turns it up to 11 when the lights are brightest.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

IDK where else to put this...

 

[the_fan]

I would have liked to see what a healthy prime Forsberg would do in today's NHL. I'm thinking complete domination

 

[Foppberg]

I would have liked to see what a healthy prime Forsberg would do in today's NHL. I'm thinking complete domination

A healthy footed Forsberg? Best player in the league.

I'm biased but I really do believe that.

 

[the_fan]

A healthy footed Forsberg? Best player in the league.

I'm biased but I really do believe that.

I agree.

With no clutch and grab, Forsberg would be unstoppable. Just put someone like Mikko on his wing.

 

[Foppberg]

I agree.

With no clutch and grab, Forsberg would be unstoppable. Just put someone like Mikko on his wing.

Teams wouldn't know what to do between bouncing off of Mikko's huge Kardashian ass or getting reversed Forsberg'ed every other shift.

 

[the_fan]

Teams wouldn't know what to do between bouncing off of Mikko's huge Kardashian ass or getting reversed Forsberg'ed every other shift.

Landeskog-Forsberg-Rantanen

Wonder how different that line would be compared to MacK at center. I'd say more dominant and much harder to play against because Forsberg was a physical monster

 

[Foppa2118]

Landeskog-Forsberg-Rantanen

Wonder how different that line would be compared to MacK at center. I'd say more dominant and much harder to play against because Forsberg was a physical monster

Landy and Mikko are probably both 50 goal scorers on that line.

Big difference in goals between Peter and Nate though obviously.

 

[the_fan]

Landy and Mikko are probably both 50 goal scorers on that line.

Big difference in goals between Peter and Nate though obviously.

Yeah, Forsberg didn't like to shoot the puck much. I'm think centering Gabe and Mikko he'd have something like 25 goals, 85 assists while Mikko scored 50 goals and Gabe 40

 

[kchan9]

Easily MacKinnon (not now but after his career has ended). And Forsberg is my 3rd favorite player of all time.
Edit: No, it won't be easy at all. I think MacKinnon will be THE face of the Avs next to Sakic, though. Forsberg's injury problems can't be ignored.

Forsberg's two Stanley Cups along with Hart, Art Ross, World Jr Championships and two Olympic Golds can't be ignored either

 

[MonsterMack]

He was born with ankle bones larger than the usual person — basically they were too wide to fit comfortably into a skate — and he developed inflamed fluid-filled bursa sacs over time from the grinding of the bones against the skate.

I, unfortunately only got invested in the Avs Duchene's rookie year, so I missed our greats. Is there, or was there, no way to create a custom skate that would accommodate Peter's ankles?

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

Peter played slower hockey than Nathan, he was not slow but he slowed down the game. It was more entertaining to watch since it was entire shifts instead of bursts. Got entrenched in the offensive zone and battled. He had balance, vision and stubborness. Peter was more like a man on a mission, his vision/playmaking made him a good teammate though.

Mack I would say is speed and power with hands more similar to Sakic. Both share the same desire to win. You can/could see the desire in their eyes and know you are in for a good game. Mackinnon is trying to lead the team, often with frustration and emotion.

I think MacKinnon will be more successful, I am also more invested in this Avs team, we have been through bad times and this team instead of just being handed to us, it has been slowly built the right way.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Landeskog-Forsberg-Rantanen

Wonder how different that line would be compared to MacK at center. I'd say more dominant and much harder to play against because Forsberg was a physical monster

Landeskog would score 40 goals a season even if he fanned on half the glorious chances Foppa would set him up for.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Peter played slower hockey than Nathan, he was not slow but he slowed down the game. It was more entertaining to watch since it was entire shifts instead of bursts. Got entrenched in the offensive zone and battled. He had balance, vision and stubborness. Peter was more like a man on a mission, his vision/playmaking made him a good teammate though.

Mack I would say is speed and power with hands more similar to Sakic. Both share the same desire to win. You can/could see the desire in their eyes and know you are in for a good game. Mackinnon is trying to lead the team, often with frustration and emotion.

I think MacKinnon will be more successful, I am also more invested in this Avs team, we have been through bad times and this team instead of just being handed to us, it has been slowly built the right way.

More successful than Foppa? Its possible and I would love to see Mack accomplish all the things Forsberg did in Denver.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Yeah, Forsberg didn't like to shoot the puck much. I'm think centering Gabe and Mikko he'd have something like 25 goals, 85 assists while Mikko scored 50 goals and Gabe 40

He didnt have the greatest shot in the world. It was good but it wasnt worldy. Thats probably why he liked passing more haha.

 

[The Kingslayer]

I, unfortunately only got invested in the Avs Duchene's rookie year, so I missed our greats. Is there, or was there, no way to create a custom skate that would accommodate Peter's ankles?

I always wondered that too. With all the things we can do not one person on earth could figure out how to get Forsbergs foot in a skate properly lol. Whats crazy is those foot problems started in his second season

 

[The Abusement Park]

I, unfortunately only got invested in the Avs Duchene's rookie year, so I missed our greats. Is there, or was there, no way to create a custom skate that would accommodate Peter's ankles?

My guess is that nowadays it would probably be easier to do than even 15-20 years ago. Technology has come a far way in sports.

 

[Mighty Makar]

I love Nate, but Forsberg is a God.

 

[Foppa2118]

I, unfortunately only got invested in the Avs Duchene's rookie year, so I missed our greats. Is there, or was there, no way to create a custom skate that would accommodate Peter's ankles?

He tried a ton of custom skates. Also tried all his teammates skates, went to dozens of specialists all around the world, worked directly with skate companies to make custom skates for him.

It just wasn't gonna happen for him with medicine where it was back then. Who knows if they could figure it out now.

He didnt have the greatest shot in the world. It was good but it wasnt worldy. Thats probably why he liked passing more haha.

It was also because his blade was pretty tiny and had very little curve to it, which made it better for passing and backhand shots. It looked like he was using a putter to shoot with sometimes.

As you might expect with his hand eye coordination, he had very good accuracy with his shot, it was just hard for him to get good velocity on it, and hard to pick corners in tight with his curve.

 

[The Kingslayer]

He tried a ton of custom skates. Also tried all his teammates skates, went to dozens of specialists all around the world, worked directly with skate companies to make custom skates for him.

It just wasn't gonna happen for him with medicine where it was back then. Who knows if they could figure it out now.



It was also because his blade was pretty tiny and had very little curve to it, which made it better for passing and backhand shots. It looked like he was using a putter to shoot with sometimes.

As you might expect with his hand eye coordination, he had very good accuracy with his shot, it was just hard for him to get good velocity on it, and hard to pick corners in tight with his curve.

Ive seen his pro stock stick (Orange Synergy 2003) he had a decent size curve nothing clownish like Mark Stones blade lol.
His stick length probably had more to do with his shot not being so great. That thing was short.

 

[Foppa2118]

Ive seen his pro stock stick (Orange Synergy 2003) he had a decent size curve nothing clownish like Mark Stones blade lol.
His stick length probably had more to do with his shot not being so great. That thing was short.

Yeah the length I'm sure had something to do with it too. He had some curve to his blade, but it was reportedly the smallest curve that Easton offered back in the day.

It wasn't like a crazy unique ROR type curve or anything though. Zetterberg used it too.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Yeah the length I'm sure had something to do with it too. He had some curve to his blade, but it was reportedly the smallest curve that Easton offered back in the day.

It wasn't like a crazy unique ROR type curve or anything though. Zetterberg used it too.

If we are talking retail yes. Forsbergs pattern was small. His actual pro stock had a decent enough heel curve but just by looking at it you can tell this was not a 50 goal scorers stick lol it was more for a playmaker for sure. I still marvel at how John Leclair was able to score 50 with his blade.

 

[the_fan]

He didnt have the greatest shot in the world. It was good but it wasnt worldy. Thats probably why he liked passing more haha.

I think he had a good enough shot, just had a pass first mentality