Former Canucks Thread

[canuckking1]

Stecher still practicing with other Canucks players in Canucks gear

 

[rypper]

Stecher still practicing with other Canucks players in Canucks gear

Who's 42 in red and white?

 

[canuckking1]

Who's 42 in red and white?

I’ve been trying to figure that out all day.

 

[Zombotron]

Also, there's a Buffalo player next to Red 42

 

[Zombotron]

 

[iloovRMB]

Who's 42 in red and white?

I’ve been trying to figure that out all day.

Flames 42 helmet guy is 22 year old Glenn Gawdin from Richmond, he was the leading scorer on Calgary's AHL team last season.

 

[timw33]

Former scout Dan Palango joins Bracket's staff in Minnesota.

 

[ChilliBilly]

Speaking of former Canucks, Watched the replay of the 2006 WJC game between Canada and the US. Damn, did Luc Bourdon log a lot of minutes.

I still think if he had been around for the 2011 SCF, we would have beat the bruins. Letang said he would have won a norris.

 

[DL44]

Anyone wondering about the state of the Red Wings?

 

[Didalee Hed]

Speaking of former Canucks, Watched the replay of the 2006 WJC game between Canada and the US. Damn, did Luc Bourdon log a lot of minutes.

I still think if he had been around for the 2011 SCF, we would have beat the bruins. Letang said he would have won a norris.

I don’t like speaking ill of those unfortunately passed, way too early, but I remember Bourdon as a very toolsy player who looked pretty lost toolbox wise.

Players improve, of course, but I just kinda think it would have been a pretty unfair progression to ask of him to go from where he was to being the difference Vs Boston.

 

[F A N]

Former scout Dan Palango joins Bracket's staff in Minnesota.

Not surprised. Palango's firing reportedly did not sit well with Brackett as Palango was a guy Brackett trusted. I remember Palango being talked up as a good scout but history has shown that our OHL scouting is not exactly good. Then again, our own Tyler Graovac has played the most NHL games of any Wild draft picks out of the OHL since Clutterbuck so the Wild probably got better.

 

[StreetHawk]

I don’t like speaking ill of those unfortunately passed, way too early, but I remember Bourdon as a very toolsy player who looked pretty lost toolbox wise.

Players improve, of course, but I just kinda think it would have been a pretty unfair progression to ask of him to go from where he was to being the difference Vs Boston.

Bourdon in 2011 would have been a professional for 4 years. 24 years old.

Team would not have had to get Ballard if Bourdon was still around. Bieksa, Salo, Erhoff, Edler, Rome, in addition to Bourdon. So if they still go and sign Hamhuis they have their D core. Hard to know what Bourdon’s contract would be. Bridge or long term depending on his elc performance.

no guarantee they beat Boston but likely better than what Ballard gave them.

 

[RobertKron]

I don’t like speaking ill of those unfortunately passed, way too early, but I remember Bourdon as a very toolsy player who looked pretty lost toolbox wise.

Players improve, of course, but I just kinda think it would have been a pretty unfair progression to ask of him to go from where he was to being the difference Vs Boston.

He struggled heavily after that ?high ankle sprain?.

 

[Hit the post]

He struggled heavily after that ?high ankle sprain?.

Yeah I think that wouldve limited his effectiveness in the NHL.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Team would not have had to get Ballard if Bourdon was still around.

that is a huge what if

sob

otoh i feel like skillset/toolbox-wise, he projected to be quite similar to balllard. so how would he have developed under av/bones?

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Del Zotto got a PTO with Columbus. Wonder if he's out of the league this season. He's not a good defenceman, but surely he's better than Gudbranson.

 

[ChilliBilly]

I don’t like speaking ill of those unfortunately passed, way too early, but I remember Bourdon as a very toolsy player who looked pretty lost toolbox wise.

Players improve, of course, but I just kinda think it would have been a pretty unfair progression to ask of him to go from where he was to being the difference Vs Boston.

Well hard to say isn't it . He was 21 when he died, and no he was not bobby orr, Letang said he was the better hockey player. He would have been 24 that year, about the time when D men start to show you what they are. 6'3" 210 lbs, certainly one of the problems against boston was they were more physical. I think most people will agree part of problem was that we got beat up by boston. And the reffing. We went to game 7. Add in a larger skilled big d man and yes, I think it could have tipped the scales.

 

[Hit the post]

Well hard to say isn't it . He was 21 when he died, and no he was not bobby orr, Letang said he was the better hockey player. He would have been 24 that year, about the time when D men start to show you what they are. 6'3" 210 lbs, certainly one of the problems against boston was they were more physical. I think most people will agree part of problem was that we got beat up by boston. And the reffing. We went to game 7. Add in a larger skilled big d man and yes, I think it could have tipped the scales.

We simply couldn't score goals. While his "physicality" would've helped in our own end, his mobility issue would've limited his ability at the other end of the rink imho. I don't see AV using him that much given that potential liability.

 

[Didalee Hed]

Bourdon in 2011 would have been a professional for 4 years. 24 years old.

Team would not have had to get Ballard if Bourdon was still around. Bieksa, Salo, Erhoff, Edler, Rome, in addition to Bourdon. So if they still go and sign Hamhuis they have their D core. Hard to know what Bourdon’s contract would be. Bridge or long term depending on his elc performance.

no guarantee they beat Boston but likely better than what Ballard gave them.

Well hard to say isn't it . He was 21 when he died, and no he was not bobby orr, Letang said he was the better hockey player. He would have been 24 that year, about the time when D men start to show you what they are. 6'3" 210 lbs, certainly one of the problems against boston was they were more physical. I think most people will agree part of problem was that we got beat up by boston. And the reffing. We went to game 7. Add in a larger skilled big d man and yes, I think it could have tipped the scales.

Ballards tenure is an incredibly low bar to clear. Maybe Rome isn’t playing when he woulda gotten suspended, and is available later in the series to cover whichever other injury happened to whoever? I just don’t see how that series is different much regardless.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

i guess the other wrinkle for 2011 is if it’s bourdon and not ballard, luc is probably on a bridge deal. so that’s another $1.5 to 2 million that gillis has at the deadline.

we could have added another player or two on top of higgins and lappy and maybe had a real fourth line. everybody in the top nine plays less, is less injured in the finals.

or... dare to dream, if we didn’t pick up higgy and max we could have had enough cap space to trade cody for jeff carter?

 

[Bubbles]

that is a huge what if

sob

otoh i feel like skillset/toolbox-wise, he projected to be quite similar to balllard. so how would he have developed under av/bones?

Huge "what if". I always believed losing Hamhuis in game 1 was the major factor in losing the series. Could Bourdon fill in more adequately instead of Alberts? Hard to say.

If Bourdon developed really well from 2008-2011, was there a need to get Ehrhoff?

 

[StreetHawk]

Huge "what if". I always believed losing Hamhuis in game 1 was the major factor in losing the series. Could Bourdon fill in more adequately instead of Alberts? Hard to say.

If Bourdon developed really well from 2008-2011, was there a need to get Ehrhoff?

I'd say yes, given the price to obtain the Hoff was quite low. Bourdon spent his 1st year as a pro up and down a bit between the A and N. So, if the chance was there to add someone like the Hoff, you take it.

 

[Bubbles]

I'd say yes, given the price to obtain the Hoff was quite low. Bourdon spent his 1st year as a pro up and down a bit between the A and N. So, if the chance was there to add someone like the Hoff, you take it.

Well, my point is that Bourdon's development is an unknown. He could have been in the top 2, or the 7th defenseman. It's like people slotting in Juolevi when he's played 1 NHL game.

 

[Jay Cee]

I'm scared to see Juolevi playing in the NHL tbh. I think he is going to get bum rushed.

 

[Hit the post]

I'm scared to see Juolevi playing in the NHL tbh. I think he is going to get bum rushed.

Should be ok IF paired with at least an above average defensive D man..sheltered minutes.