FORMER Canucks thread Part TWO

[Johnny Canucker]

Toffoli only making 4.25M

We gave up pick and prospect to get him (for 12 games)

was great while here. admitted he wanted to stay.

guy is a magnet for scoring goals.


“We ran out of time”

 

[MS]

A question for the Canuck faithful.....would you rather have Louie up in the executive booth and Gallant behind the bench for the Canucks instead of current tandem of Benning and Green? Just askin'.

This is like asking if you'd rather be treated to a pleasant lunch or have your testicles lit on fire.

 

[mathonwy]

This is like asking if you'd rather be treated to a pleasant lunch or have your testicles lit on fire.

I think that's on the dessert menu and you have to pay extra for it.

 

[timw33]

Knife just keeps twisting in the wound.

 

[Hit the post]

Knife just keeps twisting in the wound.

DimJim even hands the other guy the knife!

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Kesler on Canucks in 2011 Stanley Cup Final: "The refs were f*ckin' brutal" | Offside

“We lost at home, Game 7. The refs were f***in’ brutal,” said Kesler. “Now they call penalties, but [back then] you got f***in’ Marchand slew-footing guys. It was just bullshit."

“We were just a skilled team, we were really banged up — I know it sounds like a lot of excuses, but half our lineup was hurt. I blew out my hip and I was still playing… But that by far was probably my fondest memory. I lived a mile away, if that, from the arena — it took me an hour and a half, after we beat San Jose in the Conference Final, to get home.”

it wouldn't be vancouver without someone complaining about the traffic

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

this is... actually, i have no idea how to feel about this —

Filmmakers setting up 2011 Canucks riot display outside Vancouver Art Gallery | Offside

Vancouver burned on June 15, 2011, following the Canucks’ loss in Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final. Vancouverites began cleaning up the mess on June 16 and shared words of regret, embarrassment, and hope on boarded-up windows that were smashed the night before.

Those plywood boards will be on display at šxʷƛ̓ənəq Xwtl’e7énḵ Square (Vancouver Art Gallery North Plaza), lent from the Museum of Vancouver where they are normally kept. There will also be blank canvasses on hand, with people encouraged to share new messages 10 years later. Fans can also share their memories by emailing [email protected].

Local filmmakers Kat Jayme and Asia Youngman are behind the installation, and will have cameras set up. They wouldn’t reveal further details about the project other than to say it’s in “collaboration with ESPN.”

Jayme is, of course, well known to local sports fans because of her award-winning film Finding Big Country, which debuted in 2018.

but how many lifetimes ago does this feel like now? i mean, the post office was still there

 

[VanJack]

Like everyone in Canuck-land, I'm hoping the Canucks hoist the Cup sometime in my lifetime.

But then I remember the goons and neanderthals who laid siege to downtown in 2011, looting and burning.

If it ever happened again, it would ruin any Cup celebrations for me.

 

[Zippgunn]

Kesler on Canucks in 2011 Stanley Cup Final: "The refs were f*ckin' brutal" | Offside

“We lost at home, Game 7. The refs were f***in’ brutal,” said Kesler. “Now they call penalties, but [back then] you got f***in’ Marchand slew-footing guys. It was just bullshit."

“We were just a skilled team, we were really banged up — I know it sounds like a lot of excuses, but half our lineup was hurt. I blew out my hip and I was still playing… But that by far was probably my fondest memory. I lived a mile away, if that, from the arena — it took me an hour and a half, after we beat San Jose in the Conference Final, to get home.”

Poor baby and when his team failed to carry him to a Cup he demanded a trade with a two team list of teams that he would report to. I still can't believe that a LOT of people here thought he would make a great captain. I thought he was a cancer on this team with his "me first" attitude (never mind his complete lack of any class). A1 whiner.

 

[RussianRacket]

Poor baby and when his team failed to carry him to a Cup he demanded a trade with a two team list of teams that he would report to. I still can't believe that a LOT of people here thought he would make a great captain. I thought he was a cancer on this team with his "me first" attitude (never mind his complete lack of any class). A1 whiner.

^ winning brings all together

Except Hodgson of course

 

[F A N]

Kevin Weekes was on 650 this morning. He eviscerated AV for eviscerating Carter Hart in public. Said AV fabricated stuff (such as poor work ethic) about Hart. Makes me think back to the Hodgson days...

 

[racerjoe]

Kevin Weekes was on 650 this morning. He eviscerated AV for eviscerating Carter Hart in public. Said AV fabricated stuff (such as poor work ethic) about Hart. Makes me think back to the Hodgson days...

do we trust weekes though?

 

[AwesomeInTheory]

do we trust weekes though?

I mean, he's probably speaking from a place of expertise when talking about fabricating things.

 

[F A N]

do we trust weekes though?

Does it really matter though? Hart isn't some cocky rookie that AV wanted to take down a peg or a young player, Hart is the team's anointed franchise goalie. Unless the team no longer views Hart as a #1 goalie in the NHL, questioning Hart's practice habits in public (essentially calling him lazy) is kind of unheard of isn't it?

 

[racerjoe]

Does it really matter though? Hart isn't some cocky rookie that AV wanted to take down a peg or a young player, Hart is the team's anointed franchise goalie. Unless the team no longer views Hart as a #1 goalie in the NHL, questioning Hart's practice habits in public (essentially calling him lazy) is kind of unheard of isn't it?

maybe, maybe not but it completely changes with Weekes quote.

players do get called out all the time, last year Benn and seguin were cold out by the team owner.

 

[tantalum]

I mean, he's probably speaking from a place of expertise when talking about fabricating things.

I was going to say....

I really hope he got his wallet back from those criminals who took it. After being told he'd be robbed, he followed them ALONE in his own car to a desired location. Such a nice guy that Weekes. Or full of shit...

Players have professionalism questioned all the time. Not as often is it made public but it certainly happens and happens quite a bit. I'm pretty confident AV has a better handle on how Hart prepared and practiced than Weekes though...

 

[F A N]

maybe, maybe not but it completely changes with Weekes quote.

players do get called out all the time, last year Benn and seguin were cold out by the team owner.

That was two seasons ago and that was heavily criticized. I don't believe that the Stars' GM and HC backed them up but rather took a much more diplomatic route.

 

[MS]

When a coach publicly calls out a player it's usually after multiple internal warnings haven't led to a change in behaviour or habits.

After watching Luongo and Lundqvist for 15 years I'm pretty sure AV has a pretty good idea of what goaltender work ethic should look like and isn't saying stuff just for shits and giggles.

 

[F A N]

When a coach publicly calls out a player it's usually after multiple internal warnings haven't led to a change in behaviour or habits.

After watching Luongo and Lundqvist for 15 years I'm pretty sure AV has a pretty good idea of what goaltender work ethic should look like and isn't saying stuff just for shits and giggles.

What about his comments about Hodgson? The guy's play was clearly impacted by a bad back as opposed to not having faced any hardship/obstacle in his life.

 

[Hit the post]

What about his comments about Hodgson? The guy's play was clearly impacted by a bad back as opposed to not having faced any hardship/obstacle in his life.

Cody’s own doctor didn’t correctly diagnose his problem though. It wasn’t until he went back to the Canucks doctor that the exact nature of his injury was found. Cody’s dad didn’t help the situation.

 

[EpochLink]

What about his comments about Hodgson? The guy's play was clearly impacted by a bad back as opposed to not having faced any hardship/obstacle in his life.

His bad back plus his daddy complaining to Canucks management that his son deserves more playing time.

As much as Hodgsons bad back derailed his career, his dad was living through his son. He was just toxic.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Corey Perry was only 21 when he won his last cup. Travis Green was on that very same team (althrough briefly before he was traded to Toronto where he scored 0 points in 24 game LOL).

Edit: Wrong thread damnit.

I'll relate this post back to former Canucks. Uh the 2007 Ducks dismantled the Canucks and Luongo let in the series winner after a "crappy" start to OT.

 

[MS]

What about his comments about Hodgson? The guy's play was clearly impacted by a bad back as opposed to not having faced any hardship/obstacle in his life.

Hodgson was a massive pain in the ass for the organization on multiple levels. During the 2011 Cup run apparently his agent and dad were harassing the team constantly demanding playing time or a trade despite his average AHL campaign that year. The rest of the players put a C on his jersey at one point - and not in good fun - because he was so entitled.

Vigneault probably wasn't right ... but Hodgson had earned a reputation as a whining high-maintenance baby and when he was claiming an injury that multiple groups of doctors couldn't diagnose I get where the 'just shut up and play' thing came from.

 

[Vector]

Reference for Hodgson's injury:

"Preparing for the Canucks' training camp for the 2009–10 season, Hodgson injured his back while working out in the summer. The injury, which was misdiagnosed as a bulging disc in his lower back, caused him to miss two months of summer training. After being cleared to play by Canucks team doctors on September 11, 2009, and a back specialist in Toronto, Hodgson was again expected to secure a roster spot during training camp. After struggling in six pre-season games, he was returned to the Brampton Battalion on September 29 in the final round of team cuts.

Hodgson subsequently sought a third opinion regarding his back at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio. In response, then-Canucks Head Coach Alain Vigneault publicly speculated whether Hodgson was simply having a hard time being cut and was trying to "roll the [blame] in another direction." Despite having been cleared earlier to play in the pre-season by two sets of doctors, the Cleveland Clinic judged him unfit to play for a month.Previously undetected nerve damage in one leg was also revealed. Due to Hodgson's misdiagnosis, which was not corrected until a year later, subsequent treatment and rehabilitation was designed for a bulging disc, which further aggravated his real injury – a muscle strain.

After missing the first 50 games of the 2009–10 OHL season, Hodgson returned to the Battalion line-up on February 4, 2010, recording two assists in a 4–2 win against the Erie Otters. Following his return, he declared he would no longer be training in the off-season with Canucks Director of Player Development Dave Gagner, under whose supervision he suffered his back injury. Combined with the Canucks doctors' initial misdiagnosis and Vigneault's disparaging comments regarding Hodgson following the NHL pre-season, there was speculation in the media of a possible conflict between Hodgson and the Canucks organization. General Manager Mike Gillis, however, dismissed such speculation."

 

[F A N]

Hodgson was a massive pain in the ass for the organization on multiple levels. During the 2011 Cup run apparently his agent and dad were harassing the team constantly demanding playing time or a trade despite his average AHL campaign that year. The rest of the players put a C on his jersey at one point - and not in good fun - because he was so entitled.

Vigneault probably wasn't right ... but Hodgson had earned a reputation as a whining high-maintenance baby and when he was claiming an injury that multiple groups of doctors couldn't diagnose I get where the 'just shut up and play' thing came from.

We're not talking about what happened after. Certainly Hodgson isn't the first player to express displeasure over his role and ice time and if that player didn't deserve it I would certainly back the coaching staff and management. As an aside, I did think Hodgson deserved a bigger role and ice time and the team would have been better for it but hey we were Cup contenders so nobody really cared.

But we're not talking about that. AV made those comments about Hodgson when he legitimately had an ailment affecting his performance. Clearly with hindsight Hodgson was in the right here. He shouldn't have just shut up and play. He needed to get whatever was bothering him properly diagnosed and treated. The whole thing was not a good look for the Canucks. If this happened under Benning you wouldn't stop posting about it.