News: Flames (still) in a cap crunch post Lucic trade

[danyhabsfan]

What would Calgary give Montreal to take Frolik and Stone?

We could give Peca (cheap contract) + AHL player like Sklenička or Verbeek for # contract reason.

Cap dump to Montreal - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps


FORWARDS (13)
Right wing: Brendan Gallagher ($3,750,000) - Michael Frolík ($4,300,000) - Joel Armia ($2,600,000) - Jordan Weal ($1,400,000)
Centre: Max Domi ($3,150,000) - Phillip Danault ($3,083,333) - Jesperi Kotkaniemi ($925,000) - Nick Cousins ($1,000,000) - Nate Thompson ($1,000,000)
Left wing: Jonathan Drouin ($5,500,000) - Tomas Tatar ($4,800,000) - Paul Byron ($3,400,000) - Artturi Lehkonen ($2,400,000)
DEFENSE (8)
Right: Shea Weber ($7,857,143) - Jeff Petry ($5,500,000) - Michael Stone ($3,500,000) - Christian Folin ($800,000)
Left: Victor Mete ($748,333) - Ben Chiarot ($3,500,000) - Brett Kulak ($1,850,000) - Mike Reilly ($1,500,000)
GOALTENDER (2)
Carey Price ($10,500,000) - Keith Kinkaid ($1,750,000)
AHL BURIED (3)
Matthew Peca ($225,000) - Karl Alzner ($3,550,000) - Dale Weise ($1,275,000)
BUYOUTS (1)
Steve Mason ($1,366,667)
DETAILS
Roster Size: 23
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Cap Hit: $81,230,476
Cap Space: $269,524

 

[Volica]

What would Calgary give Montreal to take Frolik and Stone?

We could give Peca (cheap contract) + AHL player like Sklenička or Verbeek for # contract reason.

Cap dump to Montreal - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps


FORWARDS (13)
Right wing: Brendan Gallagher ($3,750,000) - Michael Frolík ($4,300,000) - Joel Armia ($2,600,000) - Jordan Weal ($1,400,000)
Centre: Max Domi ($3,150,000) - Phillip Danault ($3,083,333) - Jesperi Kotkaniemi ($925,000) - Nick Cousins ($1,000,000) - Nate Thompson ($1,000,000)
Left wing: Jonathan Drouin ($5,500,000) - Tomas Tatar ($4,800,000) - Paul Byron ($3,400,000) - Artturi Lehkonen ($2,400,000)
DEFENSE (8)
Right: Shea Weber ($7,857,143) - Jeff Petry ($5,500,000) - Michael Stone ($3,500,000) - Christian Folin ($800,000)
Left: Victor Mete ($748,333) - Ben Chiarot ($3,500,000) - Brett Kulak ($1,850,000) - Mike Reilly ($1,500,000)
GOALTENDER (2)
Carey Price ($10,500,000) - Keith Kinkaid ($1,750,000)
AHL BURIED (3)
Matthew Peca ($225,000) - Karl Alzner ($3,550,000) - Dale Weise ($1,275,000)
BUYOUTS (1)
Steve Mason ($1,366,667)
DETAILS
Roster Size: 23
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Cap Hit: $81,230,476
Cap Space: $269,524

Nothing.
We will give no one sweeteners to take on actual NHLers with single years left on their deals. It doesn't make sense to do it. If we need to, we can buy out Stone and not use assets.

Cost for Frolik is likely a 2nd or 3rd.
Cost for Stone is likely a 4th or 5th.

We can also top up on Frolik to make a Zucker type trade.

 

[HOPE]

Any trade of our d-men most likely comes down to Kylington, Brodie, Hamonic, or Stone. I'd rather hold onto the cheap assets of Kylington and Valimaki as opposed to throwing them away while they're cheap and not as valuable as they can be. Especially with the ceiling Valimaki has. I'd rather look to trade another d-man, work with how cheap the two rookies will be, and then take stock of the situation at the expansion draft.

So you protect, giordano, hanifin and valimaki?

 

[madmike77]

They should be fine. It’s no secret they have too many Dmen.

If they had to, they could waive Brodie which would solve their issues instantly. But it wouldn’t be a very good return on what’s a pretty solid player and contract for the coming year.

 

[madmike77]

So you protect, giordano, hanifin and valimaki?

Likely Gio, Valimaki and Anderson.

 

[crackdown44]

So you protect, giordano, hanifin and valimaki?

Likely Gio, Valimaki and Anderson.

Gio at 38 with one year left on his contract might even be exposed in order to protect Hanifin/Valimaki/Andersson

 

[Volica]

Gio at 38 with one year left on his contract might even be exposed in order to protect Hanifin/Valimaki/Andersson

Calgary was going to have to bribe Seattle irregardless of any the Lucic acquisition. Too many good young D.

 

[crackdown44]

Calgary was going to have to bride Seattle irregardless of any the Lucic acquisition. Too many good young D.

Yeah I mean realistically it’s too far away to tell for sure. Maybe we’ll have added depth so losing a D won’t matter. Maybe there’ll be some studs in the system that make it easier

Maybe we’ll be worse and they’ll opt for a forward. In theory I’m on board to bribe them. However in hindsight the teams that did the bribing faired exceptionally worse in the Vegas expansion draft than the teams that didn’t.

It’ll be interesting to follow for sure

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

if some teams with cap room determine frolik is worth a shot on his expiring deal then problem solved for cal

Correct, hes probably the 2nd best 2-way (non ELC) under 5M, only behind Sean Couturier

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

So you protect, giordano, hanifin and valimaki?

Gio likely wont be protected, count on being Andersson, Hanifin, Valimaki

 

[HOPE]

Gio at 38 with one year left on his contract might even be exposed in order to protect Hanifin/Valimaki/Andersson

Gio likely wont be protected, count on being Andersson, Hanifin, Valimaki

Gio as a NTC.

it's likely up to him.

 

[Janks]

Gio as a NTC.

it's likely up to him.

NTC's don't require protection - only NMC's do.

He won't be protected for the next draft.

 

[didimentionlarseller]

Habs can take cap dumps for picks all day long

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Gio as a NTC.

it's likely up to him.

Thats ot how a NTC works...

 

[Rubi]

12M - ~8M (Matthew Tkachuk) - 2M (Rittich) - 3M (Bennett) = -1M

That doesn't include the other signings. I think that are reasonable guess for contracts.

They need to dump salary still.

Buyout the last year of Stones $3.5M contract thus saving $2.333M in cap space.
-1M + $2.333M = +$1.333M of cap space

Problem easily solved.

 

[DJJones]

Calgary was going to have to bribe Seattle irregardless of any the Lucic acquisition. Too many good young D.

Ya, that's how I see it. Give them a 2nd to take someone else.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Gio as a NTC.

it's likely up to him.

Only a player with a NMC needs to be protected. Gio can be exposed and at his age with 1 year left on his deal, I'd be a bit surprised if they protected him.

 

[LMFAO]

I have no idea why Hamonic isn't in Winnipeg yet.

 

[BatVader]

I have no idea why Hamonic isn't in Winnipeg yet.

Same here

 

[Reign Nateo]

Buyout the last year of Stones $3.5M contract thus saving $2.333M in cap space.
-1M + $2.333M = +$1.333M of cap space

Problem easily solved.

Pretty sure there is a short window to buy-out players and it has passed for this season.

 

[Rubi]

Pretty sure there is a short window to buy-out players and it has passed for this season.

No. The Flames have a 2nd buyout window due to the Flames having a couple of players going to RFA arbitration this summer.

Looking at potential buyout targets with the second window looming - TheHockeyNews