Rumor: Flames in the market for a defenceman

[Lunatik]

Hickey and Ho-Sang for Frolik?

Hickey having 3 years left is tough because we really only want a guy for a year. I would probably do Frolik for Ho-Sang and a 4th/5th though and use the space to sign a UFA to a 1 year deal.

Absolutely, Frolik is excellent as a two-way guy. Just hard to say if his production will recover to what it used to be.

Frolik has really only had 1 down year (2017-18), his problem has been staying in the lineup.

 

[GaryPoppins]

Stone wasn't bought out because we didn't need or want him, he cost too much. Valimaki getting hurt doesn't change that.

Sarcasm, my friend.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Schlemko and Claesson are out there. Claesson was pretty good for the Rangers last year.

You don't want Schlemko, trust me.

Hutton's agent wants big $ - he made it very clear on an interview on the Vancouver Sportsnet radio about 2-3 weeks ago he feels Hutton is worth 4 M per year since he's a top 4 D (at least in terms of the minutes played in VAN). He's not signing a discount deal for like 1 M.

 

[BatVader]

Gardiner?

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Gardiner?

Zero chance CGY can afford him.

 

[Rangediddy]

Sarcasm, my friend.

I got that, just pointing out it was a poor use of it.

 

[Lunatik]

Luca Sbisa could be a potential FA option to be the 7 guy. If in teh lineup he'd likely be paired with Andersson or Brodie, both of whom would do the bulk of the puck handling on the backend. He adds some physicality when in the lineup, which is something the Flames have been keen on adding. He also played his Jr hockey in the area, so the transition may be easier for him.

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

How much can the Flames afford? Take Staal or Smith. We'll pay 50%.

 

[blankall]

I seriously don't see the Flames acquiring anybody until after training camp. They have more than enough d-men already. They may acquire a cheap player to fill in for injury replacements, like they did with Fatenberg. I can't see them giving up any assets or taking on a multi-year contract though.

 

[treple13]

Note to commenters. Kylington has shown to be capable of bottom pairing duties. If we add anyone it is going to be a LHD for the pressbox.

 

[FlamerForLife]

How much can the Flames afford? Take Staal or Smith. We'll pay 50%.

Likely just in the market for a ~$1M depth guy. Still have to sign Tkachuk and Mangiapane and only have around ~$7.5M to do so, so Staal or Smith would be way too expensive to take on even at 50% retained

 

[Mr Positive]

I bet they get some PTOs who will sign for a bury-able cap hit

 

[DJJones]

Note to commenters. Kylington has shown to be capable of bottom pairing duties. If we add anyone it is going to be a LHD for the pressbox.

Didn't we sign some random vet already to sit in the press box?

 

[Fig]

Frolik is the obvious...

But, I could see Brodie in a quality for quantity move/farm hand with upside. Or Brodie for futures and we sign some UFA to be the 7th guy on league minimum/2 way.

EDIT: Forgot about Davidson.

Brodie for futures is doable. Same as Frolik for futures. Or if less than 2 mil AAV coming back for either guy, it works too.

 

[greasysnapper]

Sounds like Petrovic.

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

Likely just in the market for a ~$1M depth guy. Still have to sign Tkachuk and Mangiapane and only have around ~$7.5M to do so, so Staal or Smith would be way too expensive to take on even at 50% retained

Dammit

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Frolik wasn't in our main 4 PKers, but he has been in the past and is a capable PKer. Very serviceable bottom 6'er who can play in the top 6 if needed.

Absolutely, Frolik is excellent as a two-way guy. Just hard to say if his production will recover to what it used to be.

Frolik is still good at the PK, he didnt play it too often last year since he was replaced by both Ryan and Lindholm.

Interesting, I like it. I do prefer to giving ho-Sang the chance here still though. But I like the idea of Frolik.

My argument against it other than lost potential of Ho-Sang is that I have no problem paying for middle 6 forwards, but adding Frolik to Komarov, Clutter, Cizikas etc might not be advisable. Then again Hickey isn't in the top 6 as of this moment and makes 2.75 so wash?

 

[Employee427]

Would Calgary be interested in Christian Djoos?

Could be a fit, Capitals need to get under salary cap and trading Djoos is one way to do it.

 

[Miller Time]

To Cgy
Reilly, Weise

To Mtl
Frolik

Flames save ~500k.

Or

To Cgy
Reilly

To Mtl
Frolik, 3rd

Calgary saves ~2.8M

 

[CraigsList]

Interesting, I like it. I do prefer to giving ho-Sang the chance here still though. But I like the idea of Frolik.

My argument against it other than lost potential of Ho-Sang is that I have no problem paying for middle 6 forwards, but adding Frolik to Komarov, Clutter, Cizikas etc might not be advisable. Then again Hickey isn't in the top 6 as of this moment and makes 2.75 so wash?

So you’re giving up a non top 6 D with 3 years left? That makes complete sense to the team that just bought out a guy making 3.5m with a year left.

Would just do Frolik for Ho-Sang straight up. Isles get even better defensively, get the better player but they take on the cap space.

 

[Patagonia]

AVs have a surplus of 3rd pairing LHD which can be had possibly 4th or 5th round pick. Salaries approx. $1M with a year remaining.

Barberio
Connauton
Anderson
Macdonald

A cheap stopgap until Valimaki recovers without any long-term commitment.

 

[CraigsList]

To Cgy
Reilly, Weise

To Mtl
Frolik

Flames save ~500k.

Or

To Cgy
Reilly

To Mtl
Frolik, 3rd

Calgary saves ~2.8M

Flames probably don’t add a 3rd. Not in attachment to a guy like Frolik. Just don’t think the Habs and Flames are good trading partners.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Ericsson or Daley any one any one.

 

[Kiwi]

Alright, you've twisted my arm
You can have Marincin, your welcome

 

[Miller Time]

Flames probably don’t add a 3rd. Not in attachment to a guy like Frolik. Just don’t think the Habs and Flames are good trading partners.

Flames may go the PTO or Phaneuf-type reclamation pathway... To be sure.

But considering their situation & window to chase a cup while key stars are on great cap hits, I can see them looking to both add a more reliable bottom pairing option & valuing creating cap space. If that is the route they take, Frolik's value as a cap dump likely exceeds his roster value... Filling the LD hole and freeing up cap space without moving him will be next to impossible.
Finding a team willing to trade pure player value and take on cap is highly unlikely.

Guess we'll see how it plays out...