Friedman: Flames growing “impatient”

[Ainsy01]

Headline should read "Calgary getting sick of losing" which many teams are. The sky should not be falling in CGY. There are alot of good teams outside of the playoffs right now. Nashville is a great team outside of a playoff spot, San Jose is a great team outside of a playoff spot. Out east, Tampa Bay is a cup favorite outside of a playoff spot, Toronto is a great team outside of a playoff spot.

Outside of Toronto where the headlines are always abundant, NONE of those other teams are rumored to be "getting impatient".

Its 20 games in. Handle the adversity internally or die on the sword. Its a tight-knit group in CGY and trading a key piece could really shake the core (in a bad way). Improving your team during the regular season in the cap era is HARD. Ask the Blues if they're glad their GM was patient in January when they were dead-last. Lots of hockey left.

 

[Not Canada Drai]

Other than Tkachuk and Johnny, who else is off limits from the Flames?

For me, it would be Lindholm and Tkachuk. Johnny and his merry band of no hearts should be on their way. It pains me to say things that would benefit them as an avid Flames hater.

 

[blankall]

If contracts weren't an issue a deal based around Hall for JG would make some good sense.

However the Flames would likely end up needing to pay Hall 9-10M cap hit. Which makes the deal a non-starter unless the Flames are getting some serious cap relief through a larger deal.

The Flames are potentially losing Frolik, Hamonic, and Brodie next year. If all Hall is asking is 9-10 million they can really afford that, with Gaudreau going the other way.

 

[InfinityIggy]

The Flames are potentially losing Frolik, Hamonic, and Brodie next year. If all Hall is asking is 9-10 million they can really afford that, with Gaudreau going the other way.

Yeah but you have to replace those guys with someone, and someone good which costs $$$.

 

[viper0220]

Other than Tkachuk and Johnny, who else is off limits from the Flames?

The only one off limit is Tkachuk but I don;t think ant player if off limits.

 

[viper0220]

Don't feel like going back to see if this was discussed, but what would the Flames give up for Hall?

Nothing, Hall would not solve the Flames problem of needing a very good center.

 

[Tkachuky]

No thanks to Hall for Gaudreau. Talk about a lateral move at best...

 

[Ainsy01]

The Flames are potentially losing Frolik, Hamonic, and Brodie next year. If all Hall is asking is 9-10 million they can really afford that, with Gaudreau going the other way.

No

 

[blankall]

No

I'm not sold on the idea either. I just think it's possible capwise, and quite easily done.

 

[duffy9748]

Voracek
Ghost
Isaac Ratcliffe/Bobby Brink/Wade Allison
2020 1st
2020 2nd

Gaudreau
Hamonic

 

[Ainsy01]

I'm not sold on the idea either. I just think it's possible capwise, and quite easily done.

They could try to sign him july 1 and not give up gaudreau...

 

[Kranix]

Voracek
Ghost
Isaac Ratcliffe/Bobby Brink/Wade Allison
2020 1st
2020 2nd

Gaudreau
Hamonic

So bad for the flames.

 

[tfong]

Voracek

Isaac Ratcliffe/Bobby Brink/Wade Allison


Gaudreau
Hamonic

Replace with Frost or Konency and I'm good to go.

 

[njdevil26]

Taylor Hall (Signed)

For

Johnny Gaudreau
2nd Round Pick




or


Taylor Hall (Not Signed)
1st Round Pick

For

Johnny Gaudreau

 

[HighLifeMan]

Taylor Hall (Signed)

For

Johnny Gaudreau
2nd Round Pick




or


Taylor Hall (Not Signed)
1st Round Pick

For

Johnny Gaudreau

LOL @ Calgary adding to Gaudreau for Hall.

 

[Bond]

Taylor Hall (Signed)

For

Johnny Gaudreau
2nd Round Pick




or


Taylor Hall (Not Signed)
1st Round Pick

For

Johnny Gaudreau

Not bad value but I don't think bringing in Hall for Gaudreau solves the Flames problems and makes them older and more expensive

 

[Master P]

Taylor Hall (Signed)

For

Johnny Gaudreau
2nd Round Pick




or


Taylor Hall (Not Signed)
1st Round Pick

For

Johnny Gaudreau

You're crazy if you think calgary has to add to Gaudreau in a trade for hall.

 

[njdevil26]

You're crazy if you think calgary has to add to Gaudreau in a trade for hall.

I think when Gaudreau has two years left on his deal and the risk involved in possibly not having the player past that is worth something if you consider the Flames would be getting Taylor Hall signed to a 5-7 year deal absolutely.

 

[CraigsList]

I think when Gaudreau has two years left on his deal and the risk involved in possibly not having the player past that is worth something if you consider the Flames would be getting Taylor Hall signed to a 5-7 year deal absolutely.

There would be no issue on Gaudreau re-signing in either New Jersey or Philly.

I would wager the Flames would add in a conditional 1st/2nd round pick if Gaudreau didn't (in the year that he is UFA). He's a family guy and has always wanted to be close to family.

 

[Cogburn]

What would be the cost of Lindholm to Vancouver?

Asking for a friend...

 

[North Man]

What would be the cost of Lindholm to Vancouver?

Asking for a friend...

Don't bother

 

[flyersfan018]

Frost, Myers and a 2nd?

Flyers would need a good chunk of salary to go the other way.

 

[Deen]

I would rather have Hoffman than Hall.

 

[Flamesfan62]

Flyers would need a good chunk of salary to go the other way.

That’d be tough then, if both teams are that’s tight

 

[Bounces R Way]

What would be the cost of Lindholm to Vancouver?

Asking for a friend...

It would be a lot. Like a lot a lot. He's one of only 3 rhs forwards we have and has really been the only top 6 player worth a damn this year(Tkachuk has been alright too I guess). Signed for under 5 per for 4 more years.

RW is definitely the Flames weakest position, makes no sense to move on from our one good one.