Proposal: Flames and Avs
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Byram isn't getting traded for rentals.
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I have no doubt whatsoever Lindholm returns a 1st, prospect, and potentially young roster player. I have no doubt Tanev likely can return at least a 2nd but maybe even a 1st.
I have 102% certainty with a 2% margin for error that the Flames would get all of that from the Colorado Avalanche in exchange for two rentals.
I have 102% certainty with a 2% margin for error that the Flames would get all of that from the Colorado Avalanche in exchange for two rentals.
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Lindholm has 1 goal in his last 23 games. Avs laugh at this offer.
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Take out Byram and I would still be hesitant to do that deal.
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If that’s what Conroy thinks, this will be a very lonely, disappointing trade deadline for Flames fans.
What a pathetic trade OP. Avs decline so fast and tell everyone at the GM meetings what a clown the Flames GM is. NHL doesn’t take the Flames GM seriously after this embarrassment of valuation.
Lock this stupidity up.
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When has a UFA ever gotten a package like this?
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It’d be more like 1st, 2nd and Ritchie for those two imo
2nd and Ritchie for Lindholm and a late first for Tanev.
Switch Hanifin for Tanev and I could see it value wise but I don’t think the Avs need Hanifin
2nd and Ritchie for Lindholm and a late first for Tanev.
Switch Hanifin for Tanev and I could see it value wise but I don’t think the Avs need Hanifin
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Ritchie has 41 points in his first 25 OHL games this season after recovering from shoulder surgery, scoring at the best PPG rate in the league. To me, he's showing that maybe he only dropped to 27OA because he played most of his draft year with a torn labrum, and his talent might be closer to a top 5 pick. No, he won't help them this year, and maybe not next year either, but he is exactly the kind of affordable, high skill player that they need to make more runs at the Cup. Having him on his ELC for 3 years could be a huge advantage and trading him for a single roll of the dice with Lindholm before he gets a stupid contract in UFA would be a huge mistake.
And the Avs don't have a 2nd until 2026.
You dont believe an elite defensive Centre who has shown he is capable of scoring 40 goals isnt worth a first and a meh prospect?
Cool.
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Did you miss the existence of Bowen Byram in the proposal or what? You said "this gets Lindholm only" in response to a proposal sending Byram, Ritchie (who very much isn't a "meh" prospect -- he was the Avs' first rounder last year and is progressing well), and a 1st to Calgary.
And you can't really hang your hat on the "40 goal" thing as if it pertains to Lindholm's current, pending UFA value. He managed 22 last year and is pacing for 14 this season.
Those are my thoughts.
Potentially? Something will have to give on the LD soon enough and Byram is the best combination of expendable to the Avs and valuable enough to return what we need the most(A quality 2C).
But he's definitely not available for rentals like the OP here thinks.
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Did you want the Avs to throw in Makar and also trade the 2027 1st with the promise to tank for Landon DuPont as well?
The evaluations of Lindholm's value also seems to completely ignore his play this year (or last), but rather only reference his best season. That's typically not how these deals work.
The evaluations of Lindholm's value also seems to completely ignore his play this year (or last), but rather only reference his best season. That's typically not how these deals work.
Those are my thoughts.
Potentially? Something will have to give on the LD soon enough and Byram is the best combination of expendable to the Avs and valuable enough to return what we need the most(A quality 2C).
But he's definitely not available for rentals like the OP here thinks.
What quality 2C are you expecting that's not a rental? That's the only reason people get rid of top centers
Simply not true at all...
Casey Mittelstadt is available apparently. Trevor Zegras might be available according to The Athletic. Both of those guys would be top targets for me.
This is unnecessary. Seriously.
Agreed. I've heard Flames fans throw it around, they don't get it. Trading a cost-controlled young asset for rentals would be a terrible decision on the part of the Avs.
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